Mansion Terminates Relationship With SegPay... see this? - GoFuckYourself.com

Validus · 12-28-2007, 07:29 PM

You guys see this?

http://www.avn.com/index.cfm?objecti...3B15CD0AC74DFB

Gordon G · 12-28-2007, 07:31 PM

Good to see.

Something really stinks about tmmsegpay.

Stand up guys at Mansion.

teksonline · 12-28-2007, 07:32 PM

this post was noted

Validus · 12-28-2007, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Gordon G

Good to see.

Something really stinks about tmmsegpay.

Stand up guys at Mansion.

Yea, I was amazed how they took care of me when i first got MAS. Just incredible, even though I only got MAS and I am a "small" guy. Just amazing!

L-Pink · 12-28-2007, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by teksonline

this post was noted

what's that mean?

Damian_Maxcash · 12-28-2007, 07:37 PM

TMM own SegPay?

I must have blinked and missed that little gem.

Trixxxia · 12-28-2007, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash

TMM own SegPay?

I must have blinked and missed that little gem.

You must have been hibernating actually

Either that or you have quite a few people on ignore

CyberHustler · 12-28-2007, 07:46 PM

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"possible connection between them (NATS) and the now defunct iBill"

damn......

teksonline · 12-28-2007, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Validus

Yea, I was amazed how they took care of me when i first got MAS. Just incredible, even though I only got MAS and I am a "small" guy. Just amazing!

You sure you want to go public with that statement?

Happy New Year

Validus · 12-28-2007, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by teksonline

You sure you want to go public with that statement?

Happy New Year

LOL. Just saying how it was! Soooo no problem with that.

DivaShane · 12-28-2007, 07:57 PM

That was rather impressive. I'm surprised that they would be willing to take the financial load off clients moving to a new processor over that. Def. a company I'll be keeping my eye on. ;)

D-man · 12-28-2007, 08:03 PM

Oystein tisk tisk tisk - I used to have a high opion of him - having to stoop to these kind of tatics in the middle of the NATS mess - wow - im not on anyones side but you knew you were doing business with a company that had an intrest in your compitition long befor this - I am calling it a low blow -

BoyAlley · 12-28-2007, 08:04 PM

Personally I think it's retarded for a software company to be dictating which financial service firms that affiliate programs can or can't use.

Why the fuck do programs allow these software companies to have so much control over their businesses is above and beyond me.

It's a BAD BAD BAD idea IMHO.

That being said, I think Segpay is a giant shit stain. But that's my decision to make. I don't need Mansion, or TMM, Microsoft, or any other software company telling me what's best for me when it comes to who I do business with.

candyflip · 12-28-2007, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by D-man

Oystein tisk tisk tisk - I used to have a high opion of him - having to stoop to these kind of tatics in the middle of the NATS mess - wow - im not on anyones side but you knew you were doing business with a company that had an intrest in your compitition long befor this - I am calling it a low blow -

I think if you do a search you'll find he's had to put up with the low blow tactics. They see this as a conflict of interest and are making sure they're clients understand and are taken care of.

Doesn't sound like a low blow at all, well...to me at least.

seeric · 12-28-2007, 08:15 PM

i wouldn't touch segpay with a 10 foot pole, and thats a personal opinion. the reason is obvious.

doesnt sound like a low blow to me at all.

WiredGuy · 12-28-2007, 08:17 PM

I personally don't think its right for a software company to dictate who I can use for my banking/processing. I also don't get a very good vibe from SEG with their NATS/ibill backgrounds but it should be my choice to make, not MPA's. Either way, its definitely interesting.
WG

Validus · 12-28-2007, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by D-man

Oystein tisk tisk tisk - I used to have a high opion of him - having to stoop to these kind of tatics in the middle of the NATS mess - wow - im not on anyones side but you knew you were doing business with a company that had an intrest in your compitition long befor this - I am calling it a low blow -

I am not sure how you could you say that Mansion knew about this a long time?

Are you saying that Mansion knew about this before TMM announced it?

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/791375-media-acquires-equity-stake-segregated-payments-ltd.html

I think if you got to move on something, you should do it right away. What?s the point in waiting?

IMO Mansion is taking care of their customers and also protecting themselves; like any business would.

Nookster · 12-28-2007, 08:26 PM

Bunch of fucking sheep.

D-man · 12-28-2007, 08:32 PM

no software company should be telling you who you can and cannot process with - Lets roll back the clock a little to the huge shit storm that hit MPA when there admin got hacked and that was a software hack - oh noone remembers that???? wtf ever -

garry · 12-28-2007, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I personally don't think its right for a software company to dictate who I can use for my banking/processing. I also don't get a very good vibe from SEG with their NATS/ibill backgrounds but it should be my choice to make, not MPA's. Either way, its definitely interesting.
WG

WG, I totally agree with you about this. It is not our job to dictate who anyone should use for banking/processing. And up till now we have never done that either, but this is kind of a special situation.
We felt this was a big conflict of interest, and protecting our customers and our own company will always be our #1 priority.

JD · 12-28-2007, 08:39 PM

anyone using segpay is setting themselves up for a real rough surprise butt sex session...

D-man · 12-28-2007, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Nookster

Bunch of fucking sheep.

lol yeah - I should not have even bothered -

D-man · 12-28-2007, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by garry

WG, I totally agree with you about this. It is not our job to dictate who anyone should use for banking/processing. And up till now we have never done that either, but this is kind of a special situation.
We felt this was a big conflict of interest, and protecting our customers and our own company will always be our #1 priority.

oh bull fucking shit - call it what you will - your taking advantage of a situation for press and hopefully business - and if no one else will say it im gonna - it's a pussy move -

Doctor Dre · 12-28-2007, 08:49 PM

I don't understand the reasoning behind this... I know they are owned by a competitor but wouldn't it be better to let the webmasters choose for themselves ?

After the NATs security fiasco, I doubt many will trust TMM with credit cards anways.

Pleasurepays · 12-28-2007, 08:49 PM

its seems quite logical given the string of conflicts of interest. first you have a guy who runs an affiliate program and adult sites ... who then has access to other affiliate programs and their sales/webmaster info... who now owns part of a billing company... why would MPA3 guys want him to have access to all their segpay sales data as well?

Damian_Maxcash · 12-28-2007, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by D-man

oh bull fucking shit - call it what you will - your taking advantage of a situation for press and hopefully business - and if no one else will say it im gonna - it's a pussy move -

Seems resonable to me.

If MPA use TMM/Segpay then they have to rely on them for support - and they have to have their support to incorporate the stats.

TMM/Segpay could pull the plug at any moment on MPA leaving MPA with a fucking great mess.

From what I have seen recently TMM are more than capable of doing it as well.

Good move

notoldschool · 12-28-2007, 09:24 PM

I would never use segpay as a processor but Nats is good.

Thomas N · 12-28-2007, 09:26 PM

Smart move by mansion.

Validus · 12-28-2007, 09:36 PM

I am sure Mansion put a LOT of thought into this. They aren't the people to just do things for the sake of doing something.

D-man · 12-28-2007, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Nookster

Bunch of fucking sheep.

needed to be repeated

will76 · 12-28-2007, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

i wouldn't touch segpay with a 10 foot pole, and thats a personal opinion. the reason is obvious.

doesnt sound like a low blow to me at all.

John is going to ICQ you for saying that (if he hasn't already

)

Validus · 12-28-2007, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

John is going to ICQ you for saying that (if he hasn't already

)

Ho Ho Ho !

SmokeyTheBear · 12-29-2007, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by D-man

Oystein tisk tisk tisk - I used to have a high opion of him - having to stoop to these kind of tatics in the middle of the NATS mess - wow - im not on anyones side but you knew you were doing business with a company that had an intrest in your compitition long befor this - I am calling it a low blow -

better late than never . this doesnt sound like something that was planned on a moments notice..

V_RocKs · 12-29-2007, 12:12 AM

Wow... This is news!

D-man · 12-29-2007, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Validus

I am sure Mansion put a LOT of thought into this. They aren't the people to just do things for the sake of doing something.

omg - they got busted with a built in shave system to cheat affiliates - yeah they don't do things just for the sake of doing them - im done with warning people - fine do business with them - you have been warned

NinjaSteve · 12-29-2007, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I personally don't think its right for a software company to dictate who I can use for my banking/processing. I also don't get a very good vibe from SEG with their NATS/ibill backgrounds but it should be my choice to make, not MPA's. Either way, its definitely interesting.
WG

I agree with you. If the software company wants to put up a warning that's fine but they should support all of the billing companies it can.

D-man · 12-29-2007, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

better late than never . this doesnt sound like something that was planned on a moments notice..

it's been common knowledge since segpay started it was by former Ibill exec's - and i got screwed by ibill like a lot of people

DutchTeenCash · 12-29-2007, 02:08 AM

segpay - never ever both because of the ibill history and the horrible sites they processed for

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 12-29-2007, 02:17 AM

Pretty interesting times.

davebl · 12-29-2007, 02:29 AM

its not right for a software company to dictate to a client who they can and cannot do business with. it is however their right to tell the client who they will do business with. especially if that company admits they are not capable of running it properly. tmm have proven themselves to be at best incompetent on running a affialtes software not taking clients complains seriously and covering up failures in their operations. so in this instance its right. but it really is a non issue and just another nail in the coffin. will any sponsor with decent numbers go with segpay? they need those clients to stay afloat.

JFK · 12-29-2007, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

Pretty interesting times.

indeed they are

Manowar · 12-29-2007, 05:24 AM

I am so behind, I didnt even know TMM owned Segpay :?

crockett · 12-29-2007, 05:28 AM

Reguardless of the Nats issues, why anyone would touch Segpay is beyond me. It doesn't matter if it's owned by TMM, they were shown to be deeply connected to IBILL a year or so back.

It was pretty much as soon as that company opened there were posts here on GFY about them being at the same address as IBill.. Then you add in all the top people are there. Well umm duh?

StuartD · 12-29-2007, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I personally don't think its right for a software company to dictate who I can use for my banking/processing. I also don't get a very good vibe from SEG with their NATS/ibill backgrounds but it should be my choice to make, not MPA's. Either way, its definitely interesting.
WG

Agreed 100%

Trax · 12-29-2007, 06:55 AM

who are they to choose which processing people get to use. i say non of their biz... stupid move

cherrylula · 12-29-2007, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I personally don't think its right for a software company to dictate who I can use for my banking/processing. I also don't get a very good vibe from SEG with their NATS/ibill backgrounds but it should be my choice to make, not MPA's. Either way, its definitely interesting.
WG

Exactly. Very troubling indeed.

justsexxx · 12-29-2007, 07:51 AM

That NATS fucked up with the security issue is independant from this. I fully understand MPA doesn't want to work with TMM/SEGPAY.

garry · 12-29-2007, 08:48 AM

Everything that have happened lately plus that our competitor will have inside information on how MPA3 works when it communicates with the processors made us have to take this decision. So in other words, we are not making a decision for you that you should not do business with TMMSegpay, we are making a decision that we can not work with them.
We have as good as every processor in the industry working with MPA3, and we constantly add new ones for our customers.

I am really sorry if you can not see that this would be a huge conflict of interest for us.

Turf · 12-29-2007, 08:57 AM

must admit i fully understand MPA on this one..

TheDoc · 12-29-2007, 09:01 AM

If I owned MPA, I would do this.. So many reasons for this and so understandable.

12-28-2007, 07:57 PM	#11
DivaShane Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kansas - Land of Retards Posts: 370	That was rather impressive. I'm surprised that they would be willing to take the financial load off clients moving to a new processor over that. Def. a company I'll be keeping my eye on. ;) __________________ Shane Webmaster Wednesday - Internet Radio For Webmasters

12-28-2007, 08:04 PM	#13
BoyAlley So Fucking Gay Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 19,714	Personally I think it's retarded for a software company to be dictating which financial service firms that affiliate programs can or can't use. Why the fuck do programs allow these software companies to have so much control over their businesses is above and beyond me. It's a BAD BAD BAD idea IMHO. That being said, I think Segpay is a giant shit stain. But that's my decision to make. I don't need Mansion, or TMM, Microsoft, or any other software company telling me what's best for me when it comes to who I do business with. Last edited by BoyAlley; 12-28-2007 at 08:06 PM..

12-28-2007, 08:17 PM	#16
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,485	I personally don't think its right for a software company to dictate who I can use for my banking/processing. I also don't get a very good vibe from SEG with their NATS/ibill backgrounds but it should be my choice to make, not MPA's. Either way, its definitely interesting. WG __________________ I play with Google.

12-28-2007, 08:26 PM	#18
Nookster Confirmed IT Professional Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 3,744	Bunch of fucking sheep. __________________ The Best Affiliate Software, Ever.

12-28-2007, 09:24 PM	#27
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12-28-2007, 07:29 PM	#1
Validus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 4,012	Mansion Terminates Relationship With SegPay... see this? You guys see this? http://www.avn.com/index.cfm?objecti...3B15CD0AC74DFB

12-28-2007, 07:31 PM	#2
Gordon G So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2006 Location: Seems To Be Here Now Posts: 646	Good to see. Something really stinks about tmmsegpay. Stand up guys at Mansion.

12-28-2007, 07:32 PM	#3
teksonline So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: At My Desk Posts: 2,904	this post was noted

12-28-2007, 07:37 PM	#6
Damian_Maxcash So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MaxCash.com Posts: 12,745	TMM own SegPay? I must have blinked and missed that little gem.

12-28-2007, 08:03 PM	#12
D-man Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Respect the join date noob! Posts: 1,291	Oystein tisk tisk tisk - I used to have a high opion of him - having to stoop to these kind of tatics in the middle of the NATS mess - wow - im not on anyones side but you knew you were doing business with a company that had an intrest in your compitition long befor this - I am calling it a low blow -

12-28-2007, 08:15 PM	#15
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	i wouldn't touch segpay with a 10 foot pole, and thats a personal opinion. the reason is obvious. doesnt sound like a low blow to me at all.

12-28-2007, 08:32 PM	#19
D-man Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Respect the join date noob! Posts: 1,291	no software company should be telling you who you can and cannot process with - Lets roll back the clock a little to the huge shit storm that hit MPA when there admin got hacked and that was a software hack - oh noone remembers that???? wtf ever -

12-28-2007, 08:39 PM	#21
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	anyone using segpay is setting themselves up for a real rough surprise butt sex session...

12-28-2007, 08:49 PM	#25
Pleasurepays BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in a pile of boogers Posts: 11,913	its seems quite logical given the string of conflicts of interest. first you have a guy who runs an affiliate program and adult sites ... who then has access to other affiliate programs and their sales/webmaster info... who now owns part of a billing company... why would MPA3 guys want him to have access to all their segpay sales data as well?

12-28-2007, 09:26 PM	#28
Thomas N Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 973	Smart move by mansion.

12-28-2007, 09:36 PM	#29
Validus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 4,012	I am sure Mansion put a LOT of thought into this. They aren't the people to just do things for the sake of doing something.

12-29-2007, 12:12 AM	#34
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	Wow... This is news!

12-29-2007, 02:08 AM	#38
DutchTeenCash I like Dutch Girls Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: dutchteencash.com Posts: 21,684	segpay - never ever both because of the ibill history and the horrible sites they processed for __________________ ICQ 16 91 547 - SKYPE dutchteencash bob AT dutchteencash DOT com ... did you see our newest Sweet Natural Girl Priscilla (18)?

12-29-2007, 02:17 AM	#39
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12-29-2007, 02:29 AM	#40
davebl Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: SoCal Posts: 17	its not right for a software company to dictate to a client who they can and cannot do business with. it is however their right to tell the client who they will do business with. especially if that company admits they are not capable of running it properly. tmm have proven themselves to be at best incompetent on running a affialtes software not taking clients complains seriously and covering up failures in their operations. so in this instance its right. but it really is a non issue and just another nail in the coffin. will any sponsor with decent numbers go with segpay? they need those clients to stay afloat. __________________ Programmers do it to a script.

12-29-2007, 05:24 AM	#42
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	I am so behind, I didnt even know TMM owned Segpay :?

12-29-2007, 05:28 AM	#43
crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	Reguardless of the Nats issues, why anyone would touch Segpay is beyond me. It doesn't matter if it's owned by TMM, they were shown to be deeply connected to IBILL a year or so back. It was pretty much as soon as that company opened there were posts here on GFY about them being at the same address as IBill.. Then you add in all the top people are there. Well umm duh?

12-29-2007, 06:55 AM	#45
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	who are they to choose which processing people get to use. i say non of their biz... stupid move

12-29-2007, 07:51 AM	#47
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12-29-2007, 08:48 AM	#48
garry Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 680	Everything that have happened lately plus that our competitor will have inside information on how MPA3 works when it communicates with the processors made us have to take this decision. So in other words, we are not making a decision for you that you should not do business with TMMSegpay, we are making a decision that we can not work with them. We have as good as every processor in the industry working with MPA3, and we constantly add new ones for our customers. I am really sorry if you can not see that this would be a huge conflict of interest for us. __________________ The Creator Of THE STANDARD* *in Affiliate Program Software - We make affiliates and program owners more money! MPA3® – Anything Else Is A Replica Choose between our impressive lineup of software's: MPA3® PRO - MPA3® ENTERPRISE - MPA3® Standard -MAS® CMS - and topping it off with amazing DESIGN, Consulting and Webmaster Services! "Your Mansion of Opportunities!" Around since 1997 and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" to the industry. MPA3® V5 - The most intuitive Affiliate Program Software ever made - MPA3® V5 – Anything Else Is A Replica

12-29-2007, 08:57 AM	#49
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12-29-2007, 09:01 AM	#50
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	If I owned MPA, I would do this.. So many reasons for this and so understandable. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation