Mansion Terminates Relationship With SegPay... see this?
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damn......"possible connection between them (NATS) and the now defunct iBill"“If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”Comment
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That was rather impressive. I'm surprised that they would be willing to take the financial load off clients moving to a new processor over that. Def. a company I'll be keeping my eye on. ;)Shane
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Oystein tisk tisk tisk - I used to have a high opion of him - having to stoop to these kind of tatics in the middle of the NATS mess - wow - im not on anyones side but you knew you were doing business with a company that had an intrest in your compitition long befor this - I am calling it a low blow -Comment
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Personally I think it's retarded for a software company to be dictating which financial service firms that affiliate programs can or can't use.
Why the fuck do programs allow these software companies to have so much control over their businesses is above and beyond me.
It's a BAD BAD BAD idea IMHO.
That being said, I think Segpay is a giant shit stain. But that's my decision to make. I don't need Mansion, or TMM, Microsoft, or any other software company telling me what's best for me when it comes to who I do business with.Last edited by BoyAlley; 12-28-2007, 06:06 PM.Comment
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I think if you do a search you'll find he's had to put up with the low blow tactics. They see this as a conflict of interest and are making sure they're clients understand and are taken care of.Oystein tisk tisk tisk - I used to have a high opion of him - having to stoop to these kind of tatics in the middle of the NATS mess - wow - im not on anyones side but you knew you were doing business with a company that had an intrest in your compitition long befor this - I am calling it a low blow -
Doesn't sound like a low blow at all, well...to me at least.Comment
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I personally don't think its right for a software company to dictate who I can use for my banking/processing. I also don't get a very good vibe from SEG with their NATS/ibill backgrounds but it should be my choice to make, not MPA's. Either way, its definitely interesting.
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I am not sure how you could you say that Mansion knew about this a long time?Oystein tisk tisk tisk - I used to have a high opion of him - having to stoop to these kind of tatics in the middle of the NATS mess - wow - im not on anyones side but you knew you were doing business with a company that had an intrest in your compitition long befor this - I am calling it a low blow -
Are you saying that Mansion knew about this before TMM announced it?
http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=791375
I think if you got to move on something, you should do it right away. What?s the point in waiting?
IMO Mansion is taking care of their customers and also protecting themselves; like any business would.Comment
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no software company should be telling you who you can and cannot process with - Lets roll back the clock a little to the huge shit storm that hit MPA when there admin got hacked and that was a software hack - oh noone remembers that???? wtf ever -Comment
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I personally don't think its right for a software company to dictate who I can use for my banking/processing. I also don't get a very good vibe from SEG with their NATS/ibill backgrounds but it should be my choice to make, not MPA's. Either way, its definitely interesting.
WG
WG, I totally agree with you about this. It is not our job to dictate who anyone should use for banking/processing. And up till now we have never done that either, but this is kind of a special situation.
We felt this was a big conflict of interest, and protecting our customers and our own company will always be our #1 priority.The Creator Of THE STANDARD*
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Choose between our impressive lineup of software's: MPA3® PRO - MPA3® ENTERPRISE - MPA3® Standard -MAS® CMS - and topping it off with amazing DESIGN, Consulting and Webmaster Services!
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WG, I totally agree with you about this. It is not our job to dictate who anyone should use for banking/processing. And up till now we have never done that either, but this is kind of a special situation.
We felt this was a big conflict of interest, and protecting our customers and our own company will always be our #1 priority.
oh bull fucking shit - call it what you will - your taking advantage of a situation for press and hopefully business - and if no one else will say it im gonna - it's a pussy move -
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I don't understand the reasoning behind this... I know they are owned by a competitor but wouldn't it be better to let the webmasters choose for themselves ?
After the NATs security fiasco, I doubt many will trust TMM with credit cards anways.Originally posted by rayadp05I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?Comment
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its seems quite logical given the string of conflicts of interest. first you have a guy who runs an affiliate program and adult sites ... who then has access to other affiliate programs and their sales/webmaster info... who now owns part of a billing company... why would MPA3 guys want him to have access to all their segpay sales data as well?Comment
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Seems resonable to me.
If MPA use TMM/Segpay then they have to rely on them for support - and they have to have their support to incorporate the stats.
TMM/Segpay could pull the plug at any moment on MPA leaving MPA with a fucking great mess.
From what I have seen recently TMM are more than capable of doing it as well.
Good move
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I would never use segpay as a processor but Nats is good.No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
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better late than never . this doesnt sound like something that was planned on a moments notice..Oystein tisk tisk tisk - I used to have a high opion of him - having to stoop to these kind of tatics in the middle of the NATS mess - wow - im not on anyones side but you knew you were doing business with a company that had an intrest in your compitition long befor this - I am calling it a low blow -
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omg - they got busted with a built in shave system to cheat affiliates - yeah they don't do things just for the sake of doing them - im done with warning people - fine do business with them - you have been warnedComment
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I agree with you. If the software company wants to put up a warning that's fine but they should support all of the billing companies it can.I personally don't think its right for a software company to dictate who I can use for my banking/processing. I also don't get a very good vibe from SEG with their NATS/ibill backgrounds but it should be my choice to make, not MPA's. Either way, its definitely interesting.
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segpay - never ever both because of the ibill history and the horrible sites they processed for
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Pretty interesting times.

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its not right for a software company to dictate to a client who they can and cannot do business with. it is however their right to tell the client who they will do business with. especially if that company admits they are not capable of running it properly. tmm have proven themselves to be at best incompetent on running a affialtes software not taking clients complains seriously and covering up failures in their operations. so in this instance its right. but it really is a non issue and just another nail in the coffin. will any sponsor with decent numbers go with segpay? they need those clients to stay afloat.Programmers do it to a script.Comment
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Reguardless of the Nats issues, why anyone would touch Segpay is beyond me. It doesn't matter if it's owned by TMM, they were shown to be deeply connected to IBILL a year or so back.
It was pretty much as soon as that company opened there were posts here on GFY about them being at the same address as IBill.. Then you add in all the top people are there. Well umm duh?In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.Comment
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Agreed 100%I personally don't think its right for a software company to dictate who I can use for my banking/processing. I also don't get a very good vibe from SEG with their NATS/ibill backgrounds but it should be my choice to make, not MPA's. Either way, its definitely interesting.
WG
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Exactly. Very troubling indeed.I personally don't think its right for a software company to dictate who I can use for my banking/processing. I also don't get a very good vibe from SEG with their NATS/ibill backgrounds but it should be my choice to make, not MPA's. Either way, its definitely interesting.
WGComment
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Everything that have happened lately plus that our competitor will have inside information on how MPA3 works when it communicates with the processors made us have to take this decision. So in other words, we are not making a decision for you that you should not do business with TMMSegpay, we are making a decision that we can not work with them.
We have as good as every processor in the industry working with MPA3, and we constantly add new ones for our customers.
I am really sorry if you can not see that this would be a huge conflict of interest for us.The Creator Of THE STANDARD*
*in Affiliate Program Software - We make affiliates and program owners more money! MPA3® – Anything Else Is A Replica
Choose between our impressive lineup of software's: MPA3® PRO - MPA3® ENTERPRISE - MPA3® Standard -MAS® CMS - and topping it off with amazing DESIGN, Consulting and Webmaster Services!
"Your Mansion of Opportunities!"
Around since 1997 and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" to the industry. MPA3® V5 - The most intuitive Affiliate Program Software ever made - MPA3® V5 – Anything Else Is A Replica
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