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  • Validus
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2001
    • 4012

    #1

    Mansion Terminates Relationship With SegPay... see this?

    You guys see this?

    http://www.avn.com/index.cfm?objecti...3B15CD0AC74DFB
  • Gordon G
    So Fucking Banned
    • May 2006
    • 646

    #2
    Good to see.

    Something really stinks about tmmsegpay.

    Stand up guys at Mansion.

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    • teksonline
      So Fucking Banned
      • Jan 2005
      • 2904

      #3
      this post was noted

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      • Validus
        Confirmed User
        • Jul 2001
        • 4012

        #4
        Originally posted by Gordon G
        Good to see.

        Something really stinks about tmmsegpay.

        Stand up guys at Mansion.
        Yea, I was amazed how they took care of me when i first got MAS. Just incredible, even though I only got MAS and I am a "small" guy. Just amazing!

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        • L-Pink
          working on my tan
          • Mar 2005
          • 39151

          #5
          Originally posted by teksonline
          this post was noted
          what's that mean?

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          • Damian_Maxcash
            So Fucking Banned
            • Oct 2002
            • 12745

            #6
            TMM own SegPay?

            I must have blinked and missed that little gem.

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            • Trixxxia
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2004
              • 5600

              #7
              Originally posted by Damian_Maxcash
              TMM own SegPay?

              I must have blinked and missed that little gem.
              You must have been hibernating actually Either that or you have quite a few people on ignore

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              • CyberHustler
                Masterbaiter
                • Feb 2006
                • 28741

                #8
                "possible connection between them (NATS) and the now defunct iBill"
                damn......
                “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                • teksonline
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Jan 2005
                  • 2904

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Validus
                  Yea, I was amazed how they took care of me when i first got MAS. Just incredible, even though I only got MAS and I am a "small" guy. Just amazing!
                  You sure you want to go public with that statement?

                  Happy New Year

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                  • Validus
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2001
                    • 4012

                    #10
                    Originally posted by teksonline
                    You sure you want to go public with that statement?

                    Happy New Year
                    LOL. Just saying how it was! Soooo no problem with that.

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                    • DivaShane
                      Confirmed User
                      • May 2006
                      • 370

                      #11
                      That was rather impressive. I'm surprised that they would be willing to take the financial load off clients moving to a new processor over that. Def. a company I'll be keeping my eye on. ;)
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                      • D-man
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2001
                        • 1291

                        #12
                        Oystein tisk tisk tisk - I used to have a high opion of him - having to stoop to these kind of tatics in the middle of the NATS mess - wow - im not on anyones side but you knew you were doing business with a company that had an intrest in your compitition long befor this - I am calling it a low blow -

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                        • BoyAlley
                          So Fucking Gay
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 19714

                          #13
                          Personally I think it's retarded for a software company to be dictating which financial service firms that affiliate programs can or can't use.

                          Why the fuck do programs allow these software companies to have so much control over their businesses is above and beyond me.

                          It's a BAD BAD BAD idea IMHO.

                          That being said, I think Segpay is a giant shit stain. But that's my decision to make. I don't need Mansion, or TMM, Microsoft, or any other software company telling me what's best for me when it comes to who I do business with.
                          Last edited by BoyAlley; 12-28-2007, 06:06 PM.

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                          • candyflip
                            Carpe Visio
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 43069

                            #14
                            Originally posted by D-man
                            Oystein tisk tisk tisk - I used to have a high opion of him - having to stoop to these kind of tatics in the middle of the NATS mess - wow - im not on anyones side but you knew you were doing business with a company that had an intrest in your compitition long befor this - I am calling it a low blow -
                            I think if you do a search you'll find he's had to put up with the low blow tactics. They see this as a conflict of interest and are making sure they're clients understand and are taken care of.

                            Doesn't sound like a low blow at all, well...to me at least.

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                            • seeric
                              ..........
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 41917

                              #15
                              i wouldn't touch segpay with a 10 foot pole, and thats a personal opinion. the reason is obvious.

                              doesnt sound like a low blow to me at all.

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                              • WiredGuy
                                Pounding Googlebot
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 34512

                                #16
                                I personally don't think its right for a software company to dictate who I can use for my banking/processing. I also don't get a very good vibe from SEG with their NATS/ibill backgrounds but it should be my choice to make, not MPA's. Either way, its definitely interesting.
                                WG
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                                • Validus
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                                  • Jul 2001
                                  • 4012

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by D-man
                                  Oystein tisk tisk tisk - I used to have a high opion of him - having to stoop to these kind of tatics in the middle of the NATS mess - wow - im not on anyones side but you knew you were doing business with a company that had an intrest in your compitition long befor this - I am calling it a low blow -
                                  I am not sure how you could you say that Mansion knew about this a long time?

                                  Are you saying that Mansion knew about this before TMM announced it?

                                  http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=791375

                                  I think if you got to move on something, you should do it right away. What?s the point in waiting?

                                  IMO Mansion is taking care of their customers and also protecting themselves; like any business would.

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                                  • Nookster
                                    Confirmed IT Professional
                                    • Nov 2005
                                    • 3744

                                    #18
                                    Bunch of fucking sheep.
                                    The Best Affiliate Software, Ever.

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                                    • D-man
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Aug 2001
                                      • 1291

                                      #19
                                      no software company should be telling you who you can and cannot process with - Lets roll back the clock a little to the huge shit storm that hit MPA when there admin got hacked and that was a software hack - oh noone remembers that???? wtf ever -

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                                      • garry
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2002
                                        • 680

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                        I personally don't think its right for a software company to dictate who I can use for my banking/processing. I also don't get a very good vibe from SEG with their NATS/ibill backgrounds but it should be my choice to make, not MPA's. Either way, its definitely interesting.
                                        WG

                                        WG, I totally agree with you about this. It is not our job to dictate who anyone should use for banking/processing. And up till now we have never done that either, but this is kind of a special situation.
                                        We felt this was a big conflict of interest, and protecting our customers and our own company will always be our #1 priority.
                                        The Creator Of THE STANDARD* *in Affiliate Program Software - We make affiliates and program owners more money! MPA3® – Anything Else Is A Replica

                                        Choose between our impressive lineup of software's: MPA3® PRO - MPA3® ENTERPRISE - MPA3® Standard -MAS® CMS - and topping it off with amazing DESIGN, Consulting and Webmaster Services! "Your Mansion of Opportunities!"

                                        Around since 1997 and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" to the industry. MPA3® V5 - The most intuitive Affiliate Program Software ever made - MPA3® V5 – Anything Else Is A Replica

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                                        • JD
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Sep 2003
                                          • 22651

                                          #21
                                          anyone using segpay is setting themselves up for a real rough surprise butt sex session...

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                                          • D-man
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Aug 2001
                                            • 1291

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Nookster
                                            Bunch of fucking sheep.
                                            lol yeah - I should not have even bothered -

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                                            • D-man
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2001
                                              • 1291

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by garry
                                              WG, I totally agree with you about this. It is not our job to dictate who anyone should use for banking/processing. And up till now we have never done that either, but this is kind of a special situation.
                                              We felt this was a big conflict of interest, and protecting our customers and our own company will always be our #1 priority.

                                              oh bull fucking shit - call it what you will - your taking advantage of a situation for press and hopefully business - and if no one else will say it im gonna - it's a pussy move -

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                                              • Doctor Dre
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Jan 2001
                                                • 51692

                                                #24
                                                I don't understand the reasoning behind this... I know they are owned by a competitor but wouldn't it be better to let the webmasters choose for themselves ?

                                                After the NATs security fiasco, I doubt many will trust TMM with credit cards anways.
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                                                • Pleasurepays
                                                  BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                  • 11913

                                                  #25
                                                  its seems quite logical given the string of conflicts of interest. first you have a guy who runs an affiliate program and adult sites ... who then has access to other affiliate programs and their sales/webmaster info... who now owns part of a billing company... why would MPA3 guys want him to have access to all their segpay sales data as well?

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                                                  • Damian_Maxcash
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                    • 12745

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by D-man
                                                    oh bull fucking shit - call it what you will - your taking advantage of a situation for press and hopefully business - and if no one else will say it im gonna - it's a pussy move -
                                                    Seems resonable to me.

                                                    If MPA use TMM/Segpay then they have to rely on them for support - and they have to have their support to incorporate the stats.

                                                    TMM/Segpay could pull the plug at any moment on MPA leaving MPA with a fucking great mess.

                                                    From what I have seen recently TMM are more than capable of doing it as well.

                                                    Good move
                                                    Last edited by Damian_Maxcash; 12-28-2007, 07:03 PM.

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                                                    • notoldschool
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Aug 2007
                                                      • 5687

                                                      #27
                                                      I would never use segpay as a processor but Nats is good.
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                                                      • Thomas N
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Aug 2001
                                                        • 973

                                                        #28
                                                        Smart move by mansion.

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                                                        • Validus
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                          • 4012

                                                          #29
                                                          I am sure Mansion put a LOT of thought into this. They aren't the people to just do things for the sake of doing something.

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                                                          • D-man
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                                                            • Aug 2001
                                                            • 1291

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Nookster
                                                            Bunch of fucking sheep.
                                                            needed to be repeated

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                                                            • will76
                                                              Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                              • May 2003
                                                              • 18037

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by A1R3K
                                                              i wouldn't touch segpay with a 10 foot pole, and thats a personal opinion. the reason is obvious.

                                                              doesnt sound like a low blow to me at all.

                                                              John is going to ICQ you for saying that (if he hasn't already )
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                                                              • Validus
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                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                • 4012

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by will76
                                                                John is going to ICQ you for saying that (if he hasn't already )
                                                                Ho Ho Ho !

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                                                                • SmokeyTheBear
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                                                                  • Jun 2004
                                                                  • 28609

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by D-man
                                                                  Oystein tisk tisk tisk - I used to have a high opion of him - having to stoop to these kind of tatics in the middle of the NATS mess - wow - im not on anyones side but you knew you were doing business with a company that had an intrest in your compitition long befor this - I am calling it a low blow -
                                                                  better late than never . this doesnt sound like something that was planned on a moments notice..
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                                                                  • V_RocKs
                                                                    Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                                    • 32449

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Wow... This is news!

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                                                                    • D-man
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Aug 2001
                                                                      • 1291

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Validus
                                                                      I am sure Mansion put a LOT of thought into this. They aren't the people to just do things for the sake of doing something.
                                                                      omg - they got busted with a built in shave system to cheat affiliates - yeah they don't do things just for the sake of doing them - im done with warning people - fine do business with them - you have been warned

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                                                                      • NinjaSteve
                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                        • Dec 2003
                                                                        • 11089

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                        I personally don't think its right for a software company to dictate who I can use for my banking/processing. I also don't get a very good vibe from SEG with their NATS/ibill backgrounds but it should be my choice to make, not MPA's. Either way, its definitely interesting.
                                                                        WG
                                                                        I agree with you. If the software company wants to put up a warning that's fine but they should support all of the billing companies it can.
                                                                        ...

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                                                                        • D-man
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                                          • 1291

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                          better late than never . this doesnt sound like something that was planned on a moments notice..
                                                                          it's been common knowledge since segpay started it was by former Ibill exec's - and i got screwed by ibill like a lot of people

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                                                                          • DutchTeenCash
                                                                            I like Dutch Girls
                                                                            • Feb 2003
                                                                            • 21684

                                                                            #38
                                                                            segpay - never ever both because of the ibill history and the horrible sites they processed for

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                                                                            • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                              best designer on GFY
                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                              • 30307

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Pretty interesting times.

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                                                                              • davebl
                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                • Dec 2006
                                                                                • 17

                                                                                #40
                                                                                its not right for a software company to dictate to a client who they can and cannot do business with. it is however their right to tell the client who they will do business with. especially if that company admits they are not capable of running it properly. tmm have proven themselves to be at best incompetent on running a affialtes software not taking clients complains seriously and covering up failures in their operations. so in this instance its right. but it really is a non issue and just another nail in the coffin. will any sponsor with decent numbers go with segpay? they need those clients to stay afloat.
                                                                                Programmers do it to a script.

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                                                                                • JFK
                                                                                  FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                  • 67373

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                  Pretty interesting times.
                                                                                  indeed they are

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                                                                                  • Manowar
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                                                                                    • Dec 2003
                                                                                    • 71528

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    I am so behind, I didnt even know TMM owned Segpay :?

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                                                                                    • crockett
                                                                                      in a van by the river
                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                      • 76818

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Reguardless of the Nats issues, why anyone would touch Segpay is beyond me. It doesn't matter if it's owned by TMM, they were shown to be deeply connected to IBILL a year or so back.

                                                                                      It was pretty much as soon as that company opened there were posts here on GFY about them being at the same address as IBill.. Then you add in all the top people are there. Well umm duh?
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                                                                                      • StuartD
                                                                                        Sofa King Band
                                                                                        • Jul 2002
                                                                                        • 29903

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                        I personally don't think its right for a software company to dictate who I can use for my banking/processing. I also don't get a very good vibe from SEG with their NATS/ibill backgrounds but it should be my choice to make, not MPA's. Either way, its definitely interesting.
                                                                                        WG
                                                                                        Agreed 100%
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                                                                                        • Trax
                                                                                          [----------------------]
                                                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                                                          • 14486

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          who are they to choose which processing people get to use. i say non of their biz... stupid move

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                                                                                          • cherrylula
                                                                                            lol
                                                                                            • Jan 2002
                                                                                            • 15969

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                            I personally don't think its right for a software company to dictate who I can use for my banking/processing. I also don't get a very good vibe from SEG with their NATS/ibill backgrounds but it should be my choice to make, not MPA's. Either way, its definitely interesting.
                                                                                            WG
                                                                                            Exactly. Very troubling indeed.

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                                                                                            • justsexxx
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Aug 2001
                                                                                              • 13723

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              That NATS fucked up with the security issue is independant from this. I fully understand MPA doesn't want to work with TMM/SEGPAY.
                                                                                              Questions?

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                                                                                              • garry
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Feb 2002
                                                                                                • 680

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Everything that have happened lately plus that our competitor will have inside information on how MPA3 works when it communicates with the processors made us have to take this decision. So in other words, we are not making a decision for you that you should not do business with TMMSegpay, we are making a decision that we can not work with them.
                                                                                                We have as good as every processor in the industry working with MPA3, and we constantly add new ones for our customers.

                                                                                                I am really sorry if you can not see that this would be a huge conflict of interest for us.
                                                                                                The Creator Of THE STANDARD* *in Affiliate Program Software - We make affiliates and program owners more money! MPA3® – Anything Else Is A Replica

                                                                                                Choose between our impressive lineup of software's: MPA3® PRO - MPA3® ENTERPRISE - MPA3® Standard -MAS® CMS - and topping it off with amazing DESIGN, Consulting and Webmaster Services! "Your Mansion of Opportunities!"

                                                                                                Around since 1997 and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" to the industry. MPA3® V5 - The most intuitive Affiliate Program Software ever made - MPA3® V5 – Anything Else Is A Replica

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                                                                                                • Turf
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                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                                  • 1865

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  must admit i fully understand MPA on this one..
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                                                                                                  • TheDoc
                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                                    • 13827

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    If I owned MPA, I would do this.. So many reasons for this and so understandable.
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