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Validus 12-28-2007 07:29 PM

Mansion Terminates Relationship With SegPay... see this?
 
You guys see this?

http://www.avn.com/index.cfm?objecti...3B15CD0AC74DFB

Gordon G 12-28-2007 07:31 PM

Good to see.

Something really stinks about tmmsegpay.

Stand up guys at Mansion.

teksonline 12-28-2007 07:32 PM

this post was noted

Validus 12-28-2007 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon G (Post 13574878)
Good to see.

Something really stinks about tmmsegpay.

Stand up guys at Mansion.

Yea, I was amazed how they took care of me when i first got MAS. Just incredible, even though I only got MAS and I am a "small" guy. Just amazing!

L-Pink 12-28-2007 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by teksonline (Post 13574882)
this post was noted

what's that mean?

Damian_Maxcash 12-28-2007 07:37 PM

TMM own SegPay?

I must have blinked and missed that little gem.

Trixxxia 12-28-2007 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash (Post 13574900)
TMM own SegPay?

I must have blinked and missed that little gem.

You must have been hibernating actually :) Either that or you have quite a few people on ignore :)

CyberHustler 12-28-2007 07:46 PM

Quote:

"possible connection between them (NATS) and the now defunct iBill"
damn......

teksonline 12-28-2007 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Validus (Post 13574883)
Yea, I was amazed how they took care of me when i first got MAS. Just incredible, even though I only got MAS and I am a "small" guy. Just amazing!

You sure you want to go public with that statement? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Happy New Year

Validus 12-28-2007 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by teksonline (Post 13574931)
You sure you want to go public with that statement? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Happy New Year

LOL. Just saying how it was! Soooo no problem with that.

DivaShane 12-28-2007 07:57 PM

That was rather impressive. I'm surprised that they would be willing to take the financial load off clients moving to a new processor over that. Def. a company I'll be keeping my eye on. ;)

D-man 12-28-2007 08:03 PM

Oystein tisk tisk tisk - I used to have a high opion of him - having to stoop to these kind of tatics in the middle of the NATS mess - wow - im not on anyones side but you knew you were doing business with a company that had an intrest in your compitition long befor this - I am calling it a low blow -

BoyAlley 12-28-2007 08:04 PM

Personally I think it's retarded for a software company to be dictating which financial service firms that affiliate programs can or can't use.

Why the fuck do programs allow these software companies to have so much control over their businesses is above and beyond me.

It's a BAD BAD BAD idea IMHO.

That being said, I think Segpay is a giant shit stain. But that's my decision to make. I don't need Mansion, or TMM, Microsoft, or any other software company telling me what's best for me when it comes to who I do business with.

candyflip 12-28-2007 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D-man (Post 13574951)
Oystein tisk tisk tisk - I used to have a high opion of him - having to stoop to these kind of tatics in the middle of the NATS mess - wow - im not on anyones side but you knew you were doing business with a company that had an intrest in your compitition long befor this - I am calling it a low blow -

I think if you do a search you'll find he's had to put up with the low blow tactics. They see this as a conflict of interest and are making sure they're clients understand and are taken care of.

Doesn't sound like a low blow at all, well...to me at least.

seeric 12-28-2007 08:15 PM

i wouldn't touch segpay with a 10 foot pole, and thats a personal opinion. the reason is obvious.

doesnt sound like a low blow to me at all.

WiredGuy 12-28-2007 08:17 PM

I personally don't think its right for a software company to dictate who I can use for my banking/processing. I also don't get a very good vibe from SEG with their NATS/ibill backgrounds but it should be my choice to make, not MPA's. Either way, its definitely interesting.
WG

Validus 12-28-2007 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D-man (Post 13574951)
Oystein tisk tisk tisk - I used to have a high opion of him - having to stoop to these kind of tatics in the middle of the NATS mess - wow - im not on anyones side but you knew you were doing business with a company that had an intrest in your compitition long befor this - I am calling it a low blow -

I am not sure how you could you say that Mansion knew about this a long time?

Are you saying that Mansion knew about this before TMM announced it?

fucking-around-and-business-discussion/791375-media-acquires-equity-stake-segregated-payments-ltd.html

I think if you got to move on something, you should do it right away. What?s the point in waiting?

IMO Mansion is taking care of their customers and also protecting themselves; like any business would.

Nookster 12-28-2007 08:26 PM

Bunch of fucking sheep.

D-man 12-28-2007 08:32 PM

no software company should be telling you who you can and cannot process with - Lets roll back the clock a little to the huge shit storm that hit MPA when there admin got hacked and that was a software hack - oh noone remembers that???? wtf ever -

garry 12-28-2007 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 13574989)
I personally don't think its right for a software company to dictate who I can use for my banking/processing. I also don't get a very good vibe from SEG with their NATS/ibill backgrounds but it should be my choice to make, not MPA's. Either way, its definitely interesting.
WG


WG, I totally agree with you about this. It is not our job to dictate who anyone should use for banking/processing. And up till now we have never done that either, but this is kind of a special situation.
We felt this was a big conflict of interest, and protecting our customers and our own company will always be our #1 priority.

JD 12-28-2007 08:39 PM

anyone using segpay is setting themselves up for a real rough surprise butt sex session...

http://www.funnyforumpics.com/forums...3/poster32.jpg

D-man 12-28-2007 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nookster (Post 13575011)
Bunch of fucking sheep.

lol yeah - I should not have even bothered -

D-man 12-28-2007 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garry (Post 13575056)
WG, I totally agree with you about this. It is not our job to dictate who anyone should use for banking/processing. And up till now we have never done that either, but this is kind of a special situation.
We felt this was a big conflict of interest, and protecting our customers and our own company will always be our #1 priority.


oh bull fucking shit - call it what you will - your taking advantage of a situation for press and hopefully business - and if no one else will say it im gonna - it's a pussy move - :321GFY

Doctor Dre 12-28-2007 08:49 PM

I don't understand the reasoning behind this... I know they are owned by a competitor but wouldn't it be better to let the webmasters choose for themselves ?

After the NATs security fiasco, I doubt many will trust TMM with credit cards anways.

Pleasurepays 12-28-2007 08:49 PM

its seems quite logical given the string of conflicts of interest. first you have a guy who runs an affiliate program and adult sites ... who then has access to other affiliate programs and their sales/webmaster info... who now owns part of a billing company... why would MPA3 guys want him to have access to all their segpay sales data as well?

Damian_Maxcash 12-28-2007 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D-man (Post 13575067)
oh bull fucking shit - call it what you will - your taking advantage of a situation for press and hopefully business - and if no one else will say it im gonna - it's a pussy move - :321GFY

Seems resonable to me.

If MPA use TMM/Segpay then they have to rely on them for support - and they have to have their support to incorporate the stats.

TMM/Segpay could pull the plug at any moment on MPA leaving MPA with a fucking great mess.

From what I have seen recently TMM are more than capable of doing it as well.

Good move :2 cents:

notoldschool 12-28-2007 09:24 PM

I would never use segpay as a processor but Nats is good.

Thomas N 12-28-2007 09:26 PM

Smart move by mansion.

Validus 12-28-2007 09:36 PM

I am sure Mansion put a LOT of thought into this. They aren't the people to just do things for the sake of doing something.

D-man 12-28-2007 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nookster (Post 13575011)
Bunch of fucking sheep.

needed to be repeated

will76 12-28-2007 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K (Post 13574981)
i wouldn't touch segpay with a 10 foot pole, and thats a personal opinion. the reason is obvious.

doesnt sound like a low blow to me at all.


John is going to ICQ you for saying that (if he hasn't already :helpme )

Validus 12-28-2007 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13575212)
John is going to ICQ you for saying that (if he hasn't already :helpme )

Ho Ho Ho !

SmokeyTheBear 12-29-2007 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D-man (Post 13574951)
Oystein tisk tisk tisk - I used to have a high opion of him - having to stoop to these kind of tatics in the middle of the NATS mess - wow - im not on anyones side but you knew you were doing business with a company that had an intrest in your compitition long befor this - I am calling it a low blow -

better late than never . this doesnt sound like something that was planned on a moments notice..:2 cents:

V_RocKs 12-29-2007 12:12 AM

Wow... This is news!

D-man 12-29-2007 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Validus (Post 13575184)
I am sure Mansion put a LOT of thought into this. They aren't the people to just do things for the sake of doing something.

omg - they got busted with a built in shave system to cheat affiliates - yeah they don't do things just for the sake of doing them - im done with warning people - fine do business with them - you have been warned

NinjaSteve 12-29-2007 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 13574989)
I personally don't think its right for a software company to dictate who I can use for my banking/processing. I also don't get a very good vibe from SEG with their NATS/ibill backgrounds but it should be my choice to make, not MPA's. Either way, its definitely interesting.
WG

I agree with you. If the software company wants to put up a warning that's fine but they should support all of the billing companies it can.

D-man 12-29-2007 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 13575564)
better late than never . this doesnt sound like something that was planned on a moments notice..:2 cents:

it's been common knowledge since segpay started it was by former Ibill exec's - and i got screwed by ibill like a lot of people

DutchTeenCash 12-29-2007 02:08 AM

segpay - never ever both because of the ibill history and the horrible sites they processed for

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 12-29-2007 02:17 AM

Pretty interesting times.

davebl 12-29-2007 02:29 AM

its not right for a software company to dictate to a client who they can and cannot do business with. it is however their right to tell the client who they will do business with. especially if that company admits they are not capable of running it properly. tmm have proven themselves to be at best incompetent on running a affialtes software not taking clients complains seriously and covering up failures in their operations. so in this instance its right. but it really is a non issue and just another nail in the coffin. will any sponsor with decent numbers go with segpay? they need those clients to stay afloat.

JFK 12-29-2007 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 13575748)
Pretty interesting times.

indeed they are:2 cents:

Manowar 12-29-2007 05:24 AM

I am so behind, I didnt even know TMM owned Segpay :?

crockett 12-29-2007 05:28 AM

Reguardless of the Nats issues, why anyone would touch Segpay is beyond me. It doesn't matter if it's owned by TMM, they were shown to be deeply connected to IBILL a year or so back.

It was pretty much as soon as that company opened there were posts here on GFY about them being at the same address as IBill.. Then you add in all the top people are there. Well umm duh?

StuartD 12-29-2007 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 13574989)
I personally don't think its right for a software company to dictate who I can use for my banking/processing. I also don't get a very good vibe from SEG with their NATS/ibill backgrounds but it should be my choice to make, not MPA's. Either way, its definitely interesting.
WG

Agreed 100% :thumbsup

Trax 12-29-2007 06:55 AM

who are they to choose which processing people get to use. i say non of their biz... stupid move

cherrylula 12-29-2007 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 13574989)
I personally don't think its right for a software company to dictate who I can use for my banking/processing. I also don't get a very good vibe from SEG with their NATS/ibill backgrounds but it should be my choice to make, not MPA's. Either way, its definitely interesting.
WG

Exactly. Very troubling indeed.

justsexxx 12-29-2007 07:51 AM

That NATS fucked up with the security issue is independant from this. I fully understand MPA doesn't want to work with TMM/SEGPAY.

garry 12-29-2007 08:48 AM

Everything that have happened lately plus that our competitor will have inside information on how MPA3 works when it communicates with the processors made us have to take this decision. So in other words, we are not making a decision for you that you should not do business with TMMSegpay, we are making a decision that we can not work with them.
We have as good as every processor in the industry working with MPA3, and we constantly add new ones for our customers.

I am really sorry if you can not see that this would be a huge conflict of interest for us.

Turf 12-29-2007 08:57 AM

must admit i fully understand MPA on this one..

TheDoc 12-29-2007 09:01 AM

If I owned MPA, I would do this.. So many reasons for this and so understandable.


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