Ron Paul spam of a different sort - GoFuckYourself.com

Malicious Biz · 12-24-2007, 06:21 PM

http://emptv.com/view/ron-paul-doesn...e-your-support

http://www.infoshop.org/inews/articl...71213042357547

Things you should consider before hoping on the Ron Paul bandwagon

Socks · 12-24-2007, 06:37 PM

He's also said that just because he may have an opinion or stance on an issue, it doesn't mean he would move to put it into action in government. He just wants to move the power to the states and let them figure their own state laws out for themselves, whether they go with his stance or not.

collegeboobies · 12-24-2007, 06:41 PM

That article sucks, first of all they dont understand half of his positions and are wrong about the assumptions on many outcomes if something they say is bad did happen. Its good to have states rights and its bad to have the federal government involved in stem cell research.

minusonebit · 12-24-2007, 06:47 PM

So what. He has flaws. They all do. The only perfect candidate is me. But I am not running (not this year, anyway). Given the choices we have, he is FAR AND AWAY the best candidate for the job. The guy is a Libertarian. He ran on our ticket and is now running as a Republican because the stupid sheep in this country will not vote for anyone who doesn't have a D or an R behind their name.

Ron is what this country needs. I have never supported a Republican for president in my entire life. But if he gets on the ticket, I will join his campaign and put every ounce of strength into it I can.

Yes, Ron will get rid of the EPA. He will replace it with laws that leave companies wide open to massive lawsuits if they pollute the land or air around them. Thats BETTER than what we have with the EPA now, because the EPA limits the liability of the companies as well as lets them pollute to a point.

buzzy · 12-24-2007, 06:47 PM

Do you honestly give a fuck if he supports gay marriage or not? Seriously...who cares lol

notoldschool · 12-24-2007, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit

So what. He has flaws. They all do. The only perfect candidate is me. But I am not running (not this year, anyway). Given the choices we have, he is FAR AND AWAY the best candidate for the job. The guy is a Libertarian. He ran on our ticket and is now running as a Republican because the stupid sheep in this country will not vote for anyone who doesn't have a D or an R behind their name.

Ron is what this country needs. I have never supported a Republican for president in my entire life. But if he gets on the ticket, I will join his campaign and put every ounce of strength into it I can.

Yes, Ron will get rid of the EPA. He will replace it with laws that leave companies wide open to massive lawsuits if they pollute the land or air around them. Thats BETTER than what we have with the EPA now, because the EPA limits the liability of the companies as well as lets them pollute to a point.

WTF? I missed too much. Who stole this guys user/pass? I must have read you wrong.

And to the bill orielly employee that posted that garbage written by a pimple face college student

Nobody is buying it.

Malicious Biz · 12-24-2007, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks

He just wants to move the power to the states and let them figure their own state laws out for themselves.

Do you really want the states to decide the future of certain things? Say for example.. oh.. I don't know... the porn industry perhaps? Do you really think if left completely in the hands of the states they would allow our industy to continue unchallenged?

Malicious Biz · 12-24-2007, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

And to the bill orielly employee that posted that garbage written by a pimple face college student

Nobody is buying it.

notoldschool · 12-24-2007, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

Do you really want the states to decide the future of certain things? Say for example.. oh.. I don't know... the porn industry perhaps? Do you really think if left completely in the hands of the states they would allow our industy to continue unchallenged?

thats how America was intended dumb ass. Let me explain how its better for the simple minded.

if you didnt like the laws in one state you can move to another that fits your needs and beliefs. Under the current system the federal goverment sits in Washington and take money from the highest bidder (special interests & extreme evangelicals) and the whole country has to go by what they say. How does one entity get to tell everyone how to live in every part of the country? Do you think that makes us a free country? More and more the federal goverment is tell us what to eat, drink, and ingest into our own bodies which is unconstitutional period. I could go on for days about why one city having a monopoly on our goverment and our land is no good.

Malicious Biz · 12-24-2007, 08:19 PM

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Under the current system the federal goverment sits in Washington and take money from the highest bidder (special interests & extreme evangelicals)

The corruption magically disappears when power is shifted to the states?

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More and more the federal goverment is tell us what to eat, drink, and ingest into our own bodies which is unconstitutional period.

And that will also magically disappear?

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How does one entity get to tell everyone how to live in every part of the country? Do you think that makes us a free country?

Fuck Yeah! Fuck that "..With liberty and justice for all" Shit! Want freedoms other states enjoy? Shop around for your freedoms motherfucker!
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Grapesoda · 12-24-2007, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

Do you really want the states to decide the future of certain things? Say for example.. oh.. I don't know... the porn industry perhaps? Do you really think if left completely in the hands of the states they would allow our industy to continue unchallenged?

the euro union get more organized the US falls apart

madfuck · 12-24-2007, 09:14 PM

i concour

xxxdesign-net · 12-24-2007, 09:52 PM

lol.. whats up with all the obsessed Ron Paul bashers around here..? They are certainly dedicated and frankly pathetic...

Btw, heres a good one from one of your links.. they blame Ron Paul for saying yes to this question in a debate..

"Would you bring abstinence-education funding onto equal ground with contraceptive-based education?"

..but then gets blamed again for being against federal funding for contraceptive-based education.. lol

Looks like if he had his way, it would be 0 for both..

xxxdesign-net · 12-24-2007, 09:59 PM

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The corruption magically disappears when power is shifted to the states?

centralisation of power certainly facilitate corruption for your information...

Malicious Biz · 12-24-2007, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net

"Would you bring abstinence-education funding onto equal ground with contraceptive-based education?"

..but then gets blamed again for being against federal funding for contraceptive-based education.. lol

Looks like if he had his way, it would be 0 for both..

I thought he was for getting the feds out of education totally? He did have his way.. and he voted FOR federal involvement when it clicked with his Fundamental Christian Beliefs. What's with him funding education with federal money?

Malicious Biz · 12-24-2007, 10:01 PM

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centralisation of power certainly facilitate corruption for your information...

What does shifting power to the states do for eliminating corruption? Nothing.

xxxdesign-net · 12-24-2007, 10:16 PM

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He did have his way.. and he voted FOR federal involvement when it clicked with his Fundamental Christian Beliefs.

can you give an exemple ?

baddog · 12-24-2007, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

thats how America was intended dumb ass. Let me explain how its better for the simple minded.

if you didnt like the laws in one state you can move to another that fits your needs and beliefs. Under the current system the federal goverment sits in Washington and take money from the highest bidder (special interests & extreme evangelicals) and the whole country has to go by what they say. How does one entity get to tell everyone how to live in every part of the country? Do you think that makes us a free country? More and more the federal goverment is tell us what to eat, drink, and ingest into our own bodies which is unconstitutional period. I could go on for days about why one city having a monopoly on our goverment and our land is no good.

damn you are dumb

Malicious Biz · 12-24-2007, 10:24 PM

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can you give an exemple ?

Yup!

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"Would you bring abstinence-education funding onto equal ground with contraceptive-based education?"

Also:

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He also introduced the Sanctity of Life Act in 2005 and 2007, which would define human life as beginning at conception, and remove federal courts' jurisdiction to review cases pertaining to abortion laws. However, Paul voted in favor of the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act, which intrudes upon the states' abortion laws, even though he admits that the federal government has no constitutional authority over abortion.

notoldschool · 12-24-2007, 10:27 PM

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damn you are dumb

Just when I was starting to like you. Seriously though, vote for either Guliani or Clinton. They are the real saviors of our country and we should follow blindly. Seriously.

xxxdesign-net · 12-24-2007, 10:33 PM

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What does shifting power to the states do for eliminating corruption? Nothing.

eliminating? no.. but the fact remains, the fewer is the number of those making the decisions, the easier it is to corrupt the bunch..

xxxdesign-net · 12-24-2007, 10:38 PM

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Yup!

didnt you read my post? If Paul wont fund contraceptive-based education.. how much then would the federal funding of abstinance education be if its equal to the other? lol

Malicious Biz · 12-24-2007, 10:39 PM

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eliminating? no.. but the fact remains, the fewer is the number of those making the decisions, the easier it is to corrupt the bunch..

So putting power in the hands of 50 state governments = less people to corrupt? I, for some reason, believe your math is flawed.

You're only kidding yourself if you think big money wont just be shifted from the federal to the state level. Corruption is just as bad at the state level. Let's add more money and less federal oversight and see what we end up with shall we?

Malicious Biz · 12-24-2007, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net

didnt you read my post? If Paul wont fund contraceptive-based education.. how much then would the federal funding of abstinance education be if its equal to the other? lol

Point being he is supposed to be for removing the federal government from education right? How does voting for federal funding for any aspect of it accomplish that exactly?

Also pay close attention to his earmarks:
http://i.cnn.net/cnn/interactive/all...tx.14.paul.pdf

What's with him getting pork barrel money for the university of texas? He wants the feds out of state education, but spending federal money on it is just fine?

xxxdesign-net · 12-24-2007, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

So putting power in the hands of 50 state governments = less people to corrupt? I, for some reason, believe your math is flawed.

lol.. uh.. yeah.. lets say theres 5 people at the top of a country... quite easy to corrupt..
if theres 5 at the top of 50 states... sure... many states may have corrupt leaders.. but what are the chances that happen in 50 states?

minusonebit · 12-24-2007, 10:46 PM

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damn you are dumb

Fucking A, you and I agree about something for once.

baddog · 12-24-2007, 10:48 PM

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Just when I was starting to like you.

Please don't. I would hate for anyone to think we were "bro's."

xxxdesign-net · 12-24-2007, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

Also pay close attention to his earmarks:
http://i.cnn.net/cnn/interactive/all...tx.14.paul.pdf

What's with him getting pork barrel money for the university of texas? He wants the feds out of state education, but spending federal money on it is just fine?

I think Paul responded to that quite well in his meet the press interview

minusonebit · 12-24-2007, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

So putting power in the hands of 50 state governments = less people to corrupt? I, for some reason, believe your math is flawed.

You're only kidding yourself if you think big money wont just be shifted from the federal to the state level. Corruption is just as bad at the state level. Let's add more money and less federal oversight and see what we end up with shall we?

It doesn't fucking matter what it does or doesn't do. The federal government is for raising a national defense and protecting, upholding, enforcing and defending the constitution. Thats it. Its not for providing food for the homeless, planning your retirement, schooling your kids, building highways or any of the zillions of other things it does that it has no business doing. The federal government of today, for the most part, exists in violation of the law.

baddog · 12-24-2007, 10:49 PM

As far as who I will vote for, I can't vote for Paul as I am a registered Democrat. As a Democrat I will vote for someone I think can win the presidency.

Malicious Biz · 12-24-2007, 10:55 PM

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The federal government of today, for the most part, was voted into law by congress*. Which is well within constitutional boundaries.

Fixed

notoldschool · 12-24-2007, 10:57 PM

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It doesn't fucking matter what it does or doesn't do. The federal government is for raising a national defense and protecting, upholding, enforcing and defending the constitution. Thats it. Its not for providing food for the homeless, planning your retirement, schooling your kids, building highways or any of the zillions of other things it does that it has no business doing. The federal government of today, for the most part, exists in violation of the law.

You are a tricky one.

Malicious Biz · 12-24-2007, 11:04 PM

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As far as who I will vote for, I can't vote for Paul as I am a registered Democrat. As a Democrat I will vote for someone I think can win the presidency.

I doubt anyone will be able to vote for Paul in any meaningful or official way.

He most likely wont make it that far into the race.

baddog · 12-24-2007, 11:05 PM

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I doubt anyone will be able to vote for Paul in any meaningful or official way.

He most likely wont make it that far into the race.

I was being nice and trying to make a point that paultards do not seem to understand. I guess they just don't get it.

mechanicvirus · 12-24-2007, 11:07 PM

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notoldschool · 12-24-2007, 11:08 PM

The republicans are in trouble if Gulliani, Romney, or Huckabee get to the big dance. The democrats could run a mexican illegal alien over them losers. Even the Evangelicals cant figure out which one to back.

Iron Fist · 12-25-2007, 12:15 AM

HAPPY HOLIDAYS!

buzzy · 12-25-2007, 12:21 AM

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As far as who I will vote for, I can't vote for Paul as I am a registered Democrat. As a Democrat I will vote for someone I think can win the presidency.

Obama

collegeboobies · 12-25-2007, 12:30 AM

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I was being nice and trying to make a point that paultards do not seem to understand. I guess they just don't get it.

Quite the opposite, it is you who dont "get it" and you will see in less than 2 weeks.

baddog · 12-25-2007, 01:02 AM

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Obama

As a Democrat I will vote for someone I think can win the presidency.

baddog · 12-25-2007, 01:03 AM

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Quite the opposite, it is you who dont "get it" and you will see in less than 2 weeks.

I have to ask . . . what will you consider a victory? Third place?

buzzy · 12-25-2007, 01:04 AM

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As a Democrat I will vote for someone I think can win the presidency.

Obama > Hillary

For the love of God don't vote for hilary lol.

baddog · 12-25-2007, 01:05 AM

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Obama > Hillary

For the love of God don't vote for hilary lol.

Neither of them can win the presidency.

buzzy · 12-25-2007, 01:14 AM

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Neither of them can win the presidency.

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charlie g · 12-27-2007, 10:37 PM

What gives me a chuckle is how you anti paul guys rail on "paultards" being fanatics, and I see the same old guys in every RP thread. Talk about obsessive!

And why can't you guys use any real arguments against RP's positions? I can think of several places where you could attack him and seem somewhat logical. But you probably haven't read any of his speeches or positions. It's easier just to snipe BS and quote fox news or mother jones. You are not enlightened

HouseHead · 12-27-2007, 10:44 PM

hey man ron paul for lyfe.

Malicious Biz · 12-27-2007, 10:55 PM

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And why can't you guys use any real arguments against RP's positions?

The Ron Paul grazing pasture for hopeless sheep is that way>>>>>>>>>

V_RocKs · 12-27-2007, 10:55 PM

I have to say... The whole Federal Funding of public works is a bad idea. Like Notoldschool said earlier, The states are not supposed to be equal. They are supposed to be individualized societies and you can pick and choose where you want to live based on what a state has to offer you.

notoldschool · 12-27-2007, 10:56 PM

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The Ron Paul grazing pasture for hopeless sheep is that way>>>>>>>>>

Who do you think is a good candidate and why?

Malicious Biz · 12-27-2007, 11:05 PM

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Who do you think is a good candidate and why?

I don't like any of them. Because they are all duplicitous fuckheads with hidden agendas and Ron Paul is no different.

If you think he isn't into some serious bible thumping agenda type shit you're only kidding yourself.

12-24-2007, 06:21 PM	#1
Malicious Biz So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Put Shoe On Head Plz Posts: 4,575	Ron Paul spam of a different sort http://emptv.com/view/ron-paul-doesn...e-your-support http://www.infoshop.org/inews/articl...71213042357547 Things you should consider before hoping on the Ron Paul bandwagon

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minusonebit So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: [email protected] Posts: 7,391	So what. He has flaws. They all do. The only perfect candidate is me. But I am not running (not this year, anyway). Given the choices we have, he is FAR AND AWAY the best candidate for the job. The guy is a Libertarian. He ran on our ticket and is now running as a Republican because the stupid sheep in this country will not vote for anyone who doesn't have a D or an R behind their name. Ron is what this country needs. I have never supported a Republican for president in my entire life. But if he gets on the ticket, I will join his campaign and put every ounce of strength into it I can. Yes, Ron will get rid of the EPA. He will replace it with laws that leave companies wide open to massive lawsuits if they pollute the land or air around them. Thats BETTER than what we have with the EPA now, because the EPA limits the liability of the companies as well as lets them pollute to a point. Last edited by minusonebit; 12-24-2007 at 06:48 PM..

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charlie g Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Center of the Universe Posts: 2,759	What gives me a chuckle is how you anti paul guys rail on "paultards" being fanatics, and I see the same old guys in every RP thread. Talk about obsessive! And why can't you guys use any real arguments against RP's positions? I can think of several places where you could attack him and seem somewhat logical. But you probably haven't read any of his speeches or positions. It's easier just to snipe BS and quote fox news or mother jones. You are not enlightened __________________ AlanAgus1 at gmail dot com -------------------------------

12-24-2007, 06:37 PM	#2
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	He's also said that just because he may have an opinion or stance on an issue, it doesn't mean he would move to put it into action in government. He just wants to move the power to the states and let them figure their own state laws out for themselves, whether they go with his stance or not.

12-24-2007, 06:41 PM	#3
collegeboobies So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,644	That article sucks, first of all they dont understand half of his positions and are wrong about the assumptions on many outcomes if something they say is bad did happen. Its good to have states rights and its bad to have the federal government involved in stem cell research.

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buzzy Confirmed User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,606	Do you honestly give a fuck if he supports gay marriage or not? Seriously...who cares lol

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madfuck Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,032	i concour

12-24-2007, 09:52 PM	#13
xxxdesign-net My hips don't lie Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 10,129	lol.. whats up with all the obsessed Ron Paul bashers around here..? They are certainly dedicated and frankly pathetic... Btw, heres a good one from one of your links.. they blame Ron Paul for saying yes to this question in a debate.. "Would you bring abstinence-education funding onto equal ground with contraceptive-based education?" ..but then gets blamed again for being against federal funding for contraceptive-based education.. lol Looks like if he had his way, it would be 0 for both..

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baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	As far as who I will vote for, I can't vote for Paul as I am a registered Democrat. As a Democrat I will vote for someone I think can win the presidency.

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V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,422	I have to say... The whole Federal Funding of public works is a bad idea. Like Notoldschool said earlier, The states are not supposed to be equal. They are supposed to be individualized societies and you can pick and choose where you want to live based on what a state has to offer you.