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fuzzylogic · 11-19-2007, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Big_D

two conversations to always avoid....

religion and politics

lol a boss of mine told me that at work when i was a little 20yr old

pocketkangaroo · 11-19-2007, 03:24 AM

Most historians and scholars of that era believe that a Jesus Christ existed. This is based not only on Christian writings of the time, but of non-Christian writings by Tacitus, Suetonius, and even Josephus (the parts that are believed not to be forged). There are even vague references to Christ and Christians by Pliny the Younger and in the Talmud.

I'm sure there will always be a healthy debate over the topic, it seems to gain legs every decade or so. My belief is that a guy named Jesus Christ existed, he preached, and he had followers. The outrageous stories of him are obviously not true, but that's beside the point. I don't really think it matters if a Jesus Christ existed or not for most of us.

pocketkangaroo · 11-19-2007, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by xmas13

Jesus Christ is based on reality indeed, it's based on Astronomy. Primitive humans worship the Sun for milleniums, and still do via Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ= The Sun.

I'd be interested to hear why you believe this. What are the facts you have that would show that Jesus was northing more than the Sun?

CreatineGuy · 11-19-2007, 03:29 AM

There is no question about it...

It's a FACT Jesus existed... There is historical, human and social proof of it...

Try to go back to primary school...

pocketkangaroo · 11-19-2007, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by xmas13

I love History and own a network of History websites, and nobody gives a shit on the life of Jesus except theologists and Church goers.

For someone who owns a network of history websites, you seem to have very little knowledge of Egyptian history from previous threads. Perhaps that is just a time in history that didn't interest you.

Nonetheless, your statement is false. Many of the leading historians of that time are atheists and agnostics. While there are "believers" who do study the history of Jesus and Christianity, the most respected historians of that time had no religious affiliation whatsoever. For someone who has a network of history sites and loves it so much, I'm astonished at your lack of knowledge of leading historian backgrounds.

florin · 11-19-2007, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JoesTraffic

My thinking is that he did exist, but that almost everything about him is wrong.

Likewise...

JFK · 11-19-2007, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by florin

Likewise...

well ok , me 2

pinkz · 11-19-2007, 04:09 AM

i believe there was a man called jesus wayback. as to him being the son of god well thats just plain old bullshit.
but if the bible has any truth and we are all sons/daughters of god any one of us could be jesus or even all of us!

jesus was way cool he walked on the water and swam on the land he turned water into wine and if he realy wanted to he could have turned sugar into cocaine vitamin pills into amphetamines and weeds into marijuana thats sooo cool. (quote:- king missile jesus was way cool)

BerdoR · 11-19-2007, 04:29 AM

yep believe there is evidence he existed but not convinced he was more than a wise human

minusonebit · 11-19-2007, 04:44 AM

Jesus didn't even have many friends. If he did, wouldn't they have kept him from getting nailed to a cross? Think about it. Jesus didn't get popular until after he kicked the bucket.

gideongallery · 11-19-2007, 05:36 AM

i suggest you guys watch "the man from earth"

ServerGenius · 11-19-2007, 05:50 AM

there have lived thousands jesus figures....none that could walk over water,
extract wine out of rocks, heal the blind, yaddah, yaddah.......but if it helps
you to deal with life and get through the days with the thought that that jesus
DID excist......feel free to do so.......just keep it to yourself and fellow believers
please........thanks your friend!

flowereater · 11-19-2007, 06:05 AM

yeah i believe he do

kowalsky · 11-19-2007, 06:15 AM

He existed, of course, but he was just another guy looking for attention and trying to get power for his ideas.

tony286 · 11-19-2007, 06:41 AM

nope,its a story.

mikeyddddd · 11-19-2007, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JoesTraffic

Do you believe Jesus existed?

Yes. He made great cabinets.

teg0 · 11-19-2007, 06:54 AM

nope, just another story.

who · 11-19-2007, 08:52 AM

All organised religion should be banned.

Sid70 · 11-19-2007, 09:03 AM

There is a hope you will not mentally die thats why many people wan tto belive in God and his helping and routin gus here down on Earth.

xmas13 · 11-19-2007, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by who

All organised religion should be banned.

Thank you.

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11-19-2007, 03:24 AM	#52
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	Most historians and scholars of that era believe that a Jesus Christ existed. This is based not only on Christian writings of the time, but of non-Christian writings by Tacitus, Suetonius, and even Josephus (the parts that are believed not to be forged). There are even vague references to Christ and Christians by Pliny the Younger and in the Talmud. I'm sure there will always be a healthy debate over the topic, it seems to gain legs every decade or so. My belief is that a guy named Jesus Christ existed, he preached, and he had followers. The outrageous stories of him are obviously not true, but that's beside the point. I don't really think it matters if a Jesus Christ existed or not for most of us.

11-19-2007, 03:29 AM	#54
CreatineGuy So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: AMERICA (If u didn't know yet, America is a continent, not a country) Posts: 461	There is no question about it... It's a FACT Jesus existed... There is historical, human and social proof of it... Try to go back to primary school...

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minusonebit So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: [email protected] Posts: 7,391	Jesus didn't even have many friends. If he did, wouldn't they have kept him from getting nailed to a cross? Think about it. Jesus didn't get popular until after he kicked the bucket.

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11-19-2007, 06:41 AM	#65
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	nope,its a story.

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teg0 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gringo in Puerto Rico Posts: 4,204	nope, just another story.

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who So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: ICQ #23642053 Posts: 19,593	All organised religion should be banned.

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