Help Please...Bondage photoshoot "Special Rules"???

[Voodoo]

Hi everyone,

I was recently looking into getting some content done for a BDSM site that I want to bring up. I went over it with my boss, and he quickly dismissed it and said that it is a hassle because there are "special rules" involved with shooting bondage material. The only thing he said was that the models can't really be tied up, and that there are a bunch of these "special" rules that you have to follow, so you are in compliance with the law.

He didn't elaborate on that, and I am quite curious now as to what he meant by that.

Does anyone have any clue about what he was talking about? If so, please post as much info as you can, and any related URLs.
I need to read something about this so that I can be sure to follow these "special" rules if I decide to do this project independently.

Thanks!

[satansbitch]

i don't know where you are....but to get a basic idea, it would be a good idea to have a look at your ....(and you should have one)....censorship guide (for your country)....probably a law in your country or state, that says that the material is /or can be classified as "offensive"....other than that...no idea sorry.

[Fletch XXX]

Its not legal for a person to be tied up and have penetration, she can be tied but not during any sexual parts of the set. I think.

Thats one of them. I think

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[UnseenWorld]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Its not legal for a person to be tied up and have penetration, she can be tied but not during any sexual parts of the set. I think.

Thats one of them. I think

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Yes, but not I think because it's "patently legal" like CP or scat. Instead, I think it falls into the "rape" category which can get you in trouble in certain jurisdictions. At any rate, a model can be tied up, exposed, skewered like a pin cushion and bleeding, but don't let a penis get into any orifice, oh no.

[theking]

Originally posted by Voodoo
Hi everyone,

I was recently looking into getting some content done for a BDSM site that I want to bring up. I went over it with my boss, and he quickly dismissed it and said that it is a hassle because there are "special rules" involved with shooting bondage material. The only thing he said was that the models can't really be tied up, and that there are a bunch of these "special" rules that you have to follow, so you are in compliance with the law.

He didn't elaborate on that, and I am quite curious now as to what he meant by that.

Does anyone have any clue about what he was talking about? If so, please post as much info as you can, and any related URLs.
I need to read something about this so that I can be sure to follow these "special" rules if I decide to do this project independently.

Thanks!

I say your boss is right. Forget about it. It is to risky.

[Stealthy]

Originally posted by UnseenWorld


Yes, but not I think because it's "patently legal" like CP or scat. Instead, I think it falls into the "rape" category which can get you in trouble in certain jurisdictions. At any rate, a model can be tied up, exposed, skewered like a pin cushion and bleeding, but don't let a penis get into any orifice, oh no.

Of course not, I mean a naked, bound, beaten, skewered and bleeding woman is ok, but penetration? THAT'S offensive...

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by Stealthy


Of course not, I mean a naked, bound, beaten, skewered and bleeding woman is ok, but penetration? THAT'S offensive...

Ummm, think about what its feeding.

A woman physically restrained and taking dick against her will.

R A P E.

[Stealthy]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


Ummm, think about what its feeding.

A woman physically restrained and taking dick against her will.

R A P E.

Ok I totally worded that wrong... I was trying to make a point and failed OH so miserably... Yes, that would be considered rape... I only have room for one foot in my mouth so I'd better just shut up now...

[SykkBoy]

Originally posted by Stealthy


Of course not, I mean a naked, bound, beaten, skewered and bleeding woman is ok, but penetration? THAT'S offensive...

you just can't have those COMBINED...
It's more of a situation of proving the model gave consent.

Just like our bloodletting shoots, no penetration.

People every day generally add hardcore sex to their bondage play, but it can't be done in photoshoots. I think it's a weird statute myself, especially if the model signed a release stating exactly what was going to happen.
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Voodoo,

So, if you decide to shoot bondage, I know some bondage photographers that even have their models sign stunt performer releases for suspnsion type shoots and other liability waivers that aren't normally needed for typical "spread your pussy to piss off your father" type shoots.

Be sure to have a clear waiver for any type of suspenion or intense bondage shoots, because you don't want a model coming back claiming she dislocated a shoulder or hurt her back during a shoot. This should also be covered by a pre-existing medical condition type waiver.

Also, before shooting bondage, just as with real bondage, have safe words for the model to use (especially if shooting video) if things get too intense or she is really hurting (not in the fun sado way). Of course it's very important that the models haven't drank any alcohol or taken any drugs before the shoot. The last thing you want is some drunk bitch getting hurt or maimed on a rack because she wasn't clear of mind.

Also, if you're shooting bondage, do some research and make sure it's authentic. Nothing kills a bondage site like pics of people tied up for the sake of being tied up and the dom acting like a sub. I've seen a lot of MAJOR sites that you can tell the owner has no clue whatsoever about the content. Even some of the "players" have hugely pathetic bondage sites that might draw in the curious viewer who saw some rope play on HBO, but won't get that hardcore bondage surfer that'll stick with a site for 6-8 months.

[Gemini]

Be sure to have a clear waiver for any type of suspenion or intense bondage shoots, because you don't want a model coming back claiming she dislocated a shoulder or hurt her back during a shoot. This should also be covered by a pre-existing medical condition type waiver.
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Those waivers are worth the price of a cup of coffee and a couple of bucks. If someone gets injured on ANY form of work-job etc, you can and most likely WILL he able to be held accountable.

Stunt people have their own or shoots-movies etc provide for special insurances for injuries related to on the lot injuries.

I'm sure a certain other person from that industry here can elaborate on that more if he chooses to.

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In bondage, safe words aren't enough, eye blinks in a set prearranged and other means are a real good idea. Think that piece of paper waiver will keep that big cop with the cuffs at bay if someone DIES? Worst case there, but if someone gets hurt there will be H*LL to pay, complete with the rock holding it up and the Devil at the door.

You'd better do your homework before you start and this ain't your next day pop quiz homework.

[SykkBoy]

Originally posted by Gemini
Be sure to have a clear waiver for any type of suspenion or intense bondage shoots, because you don't want a model coming back claiming she dislocated a shoulder or hurt her back during a shoot. This should also be covered by a pre-existing medical condition type waiver.
_________________________

Those waivers are worth the price of a cup of coffee and a couple of bucks. If someone gets injured on ANY form of work-job etc, you can and most likely WILL he able to be held accountable.

Stunt people have their own or shoots-movies etc provide for special insurances for injuries related to on the lot injuries.

I'm sure a certain other person from that industry here can elaborate on that more if he chooses to.

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In bondage, safe words aren't enough, eye blinks in a set prearranged and other means are a real good idea. Think that piece of paper waiver will keep that big cop with the cuffs at bay if someone DIES? Worst case there, but if someone gets hurt there will be H*LL to pay, complete with the rock holding it up and the Devil at the door.

You'd better do your homework before you start and this ain't your next day pop quiz homework.

Whoa, sit down and relax...all of our bondage related waivers/materials have passed muster with our attorney...see, unlike you and others, instead of just flaunting what I think the law is, I do this crazy thing called "consult an attorney". Eye blinks? yeah, that goes over real well for a blindfold shoot. So, tell me, what bondage shoots have you done? I'd like to know because if you're going to share with the class, please tell us, from your experience, what YOU do for bondage shoots? I wasn't talking about onset injuries, I was talking about pre-existing conditions that the model has that she'll try to come back on. She'll already have a bad back and then try to come back and claim she hurt it during the shoot (you wouldn't believe the shit models try to pull). Actually, for a long time, we didn't have the pre-existing medical condition release, but I was talking with Master Len and he mentioned that he used one, so we consulted with our attorney to have our own drawn up. We're not trying to screw any models who've legit been hurt, but we also cover our asses.

We also have a thorough checklist before the shoot so the model understands everything that's going to take place. It's all carefully choreographed. So, it's not like some ditz signs a model release and medical waiver and we string her up and smack her ass with a riding crop.

I'm sure the Sweets could also share what they do before and during their bonage shoots. I'm sure some of the other bondage photographers and content providers could share as well....