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![]() I agree with complaining about the stolen content!
But: This is the same old industry BMW session that has been raging for years! BMW = Bitch, Moan and Whine. First it was: - internet sites killing magaizine/vhs/dvd sells........then - free sites killing paysite sales......then - picpost killing free site sales.......then - TGPs killing picpost sells.......then - MPGs killing TGP sells........and now - Tube sites killing etc...etc... Look, the sales don't get killed, the market and it's delivery just changes. Fact : The paysite will always sell because they will continue to deliver the niche in bulk! They will continue to deliver the higher quality. They will simply evolve to fit the current delivery method. The problem that affilates are faced with is that they don't want to change. You must continue to evolve your delivery method and ability to funnel the surfer to the highest quality in bulk. If radio and television didn't kill the music and film business then why would tube sites kill porn. The most extreme conditions would be that tube sites dominated the internet with such a force that sponsors no longer cared about free sites or TGPs because they made so much money thru type-ins from tube sites. If that ever became the case then tube sites would simply start charging a fee for the sponsors to upload their videos. At that point it would just make sense for affilates to just build tube sites instead of TGPs. In other words, the market would evolve back to what it originally was where you had traffic and sponsors paid up front for advertizing. No more will affiliates think about conversion ratio, charge back etc... Is this really a industry change to be fearing? Stop complaining and start evolving.
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yeah, but isn't the big deal about tube sites ... stolen content ???
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![]() If you insist... but it doesn't look natural to me...
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People aren't complaining about the delivery method of tube sites, they are complaining about the content theft. The tube sites are just taking rips of members areas and putting them up for free. Then selling AFF or another dating sponsor. This isn't a delivery issue, it's a content theft issue.
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All I'm saying is that "if you can't beat them then join them". But do it legal so when the illegals get shut down you can take their traffic.
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I'm really addressing the people who think tube sites in any fashion is killing the adult biz.
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surfer doesnt care if his 25 minute free hardcore video on megarotic is stolen or not..he will watch it, jerk off and won't even think about joining a paysite at that time so tube sites = free full lenght hardcore porn movies = smaller pool of surfers willing to pay for porn = lost sales
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Tubesites are so yesterday.
Rapidshare is the way to get all the free porn you can handle. Shit I cant download it fast enough. |
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any site you build form now on should promote dating or webcams, otherwise you're wasting your time (unless of course you have millions to throw for bandwidth, build massive traffic and then figure a way to profit from it which is what most tube sites are doing atm)
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hey the tubecgi guy is bitching about people bitching about tube sites
this i gotta.. wait, no, i'll pass
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Is this the place to bitch, moan and whine about the tube sites out there?
Oops, sorry. Carry on.
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Your money to lose.
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Glad you are an unbiased poster. Fuck you, fuck your content stealing industry. Add content royalities to your balance sheets and there wouldn't be tube sites to bitch about. Idiot!
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For your information radio and tv pay royalities for EVERY song played or program watched.
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My script imports sponsor approved content made in flash or used in hosted galleries and they are all short clips. Plus, each vid has the banner for that sponsor posted on top. You never surfed the sites in my sig or you would not say that.
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That's true. They also charge to advertise those same products.
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your comparisons suck and when your sweat and blood is being given out for free then tell me your bullshit.
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Read the very first sentence in the post. Geezeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!
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I can understand the source of the "bitching"... it's simple logic.
The growth of networking technology has been exponential. The growth of video technology has been somewhat linear. As one technology gains on the other, hijinks ensue.
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Seems like only you seem to be whining about oh do not blame the tube site software adapt fuckers and start your own. (see sig). Your arguements are damn weak and would best be put to where your mouth is and actually building up your "legit" tube sites and showing others that money can be made with them without stealing shit. Oddly though you really should not be needing to spam yer shit or trying to stir up crap to get sales. There are more than enoug unethical fuckers on here who will gladly buy your script and put it to their idea of legitimate use, which of course will be justifiable only by the country they host in and arcane laws that they feel fit.
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ICQ sent
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![]() Ease up on the stimulants dude. Not a single person running my script is using stolen content to this day. The main reason for that is the script grabs the content for them so there is no need to go looking for stolen shit. Why spend time trying to upload stolen shit when the script can import 3000 sponsor approved flash videos in 10 minutes and grab another 10,000 videos from hosted galleries in 2 hours? As far as spamming, puhleeeeeeeezzzze! ![]() I guess since I have a tube script then I can't enter into any discussions about tube scripts. Kinda of like since you sell porn you should not get into any discussions about porn. Right? We need a "blow it out your ass" emoticon.
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I have no clue if anyone is using stolen content on your tube script and seriously doubt you would know for sure 100% either but I will give you the benefit of the doubt about that. The reason people would not be happy with the same 3000 approved videos and crap is cause they are greedy unethical assholes and think if I just give out more than everyone else I will get more traffic. Yes you spam, get over it. I do not get on your nuts when you enter into a discussion about tube sites. Well let me correct that I may get on your nuts but it will be for other reasons in threads you do not start. However when people start threads that are litterally aimed at their product you are pulling a Paul Markham and will get called on it. BTW if you look around you will find a blow it out your ass smiley.
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couldn't agree more. let me know when you get your script to the point where it doesn't look like a pile of shit.
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![]() My script will always look like a pile of shit so that's why it's fully customizable for those who are actually skilled webmasters and know how to write their own html and create they very own version of a pile of shit. Like this site that just installed my script : http://www.spankertube.com/ Go to the bottom and click on the designer link and let him make you a template so you don't have a pile of shit anymore. Here's his link : http://www.raredesignlab.com/
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too bad you could probable clean up selling it if you put some effort into it.
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Some people are looking for a full site design and that was not my purpose but I will consider that since it appears to be what some people want. Tubecgi is a backend product like comus thumbs or NATS. They don't design the site layout, they control the site functions.
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www.snizzshare.com I don't agree with you about the stolen content and full wjhole movies deal. Pleople aren't that picky where they jerk off...if they can do it for free...they will. Tube responsibly. www.snizzshare.com |
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I'm totally against stolen content. I hope the tube sites that do that get shut down.
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Just trying to give you some tips. Hooking up with a designer and spending $1k to make a good default template and good interface would definitely make it look more reliable.
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I spent too much time trying to help people with their server. That stuff is for custom jobs where people are paying much more money.
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I would love to see one, JUST ONE, site using only the clips that your script gets from sponsers' flash galleries be the size of any of these and I will agree with you and buy a few copies!
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