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Juicy D. Links 09-01-2007 05:27 PM

Ii am gonna lock this thread in 5 min then reopen it when i get back from Wongs Noodle Town.

Extreme John 09-01-2007 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn (Post 13020981)
All I want to know is who claims to have a patent so we can send them a letter from our attorneys to see it.

Im going to be crazy here....... And say, I am willoing to bet there is no patent, so your lawyers can enjoy a nice calm week ;)

msacras 09-01-2007 05:40 PM

a lot of interesting comments in this thread, took an interesting turn thats for sure

edgeprod 09-01-2007 05:45 PM

I wasn't going to post in this thread, but after you needlessly dragged CyberXXX and Jace into this, I have to, if only because you've lied about both of them, and out of respect for the offended parties, I'll defend them.

A fair warning: I'm going to post this, and then I am not going to post again in this thread.

The user who created this thread messaged me about a week ago, with a very shady message about how he was planning to make some copies of the Feed Pushers software, and didn't want to run afoul of anything we had going on. I told him specifically that I wouldn't pursue what he did, because he came to me first, and I appreciated it. He then started blathering about patents, about copying us, etc. I told him I wasn't worried, he could go about his business, and I wouldn't bother him or his clients.

I then got a message from CyberXXX, offering to work together on a couple of projects. In the course of that message, CyberXXX and I came to terms on a way to work together with Feed Pushers and his product, TheSponsorFeeds. He even added a very large ad for Feed Pushers to his page, which I thanked him for. Currently, we're engaged on another project that should turn some heads.

Jace's involvement in Feed Pushers is also a valuable one. His advice and expertise in feeds has been great, and I'm glad to have him on board.

I am not involved with Relink Software in any direct way anymore. Yes, I coded Autoblogger Pro Stand Alone, but I have a number of other projects, and don't plan to release another version myself. Chio, however, plans to release more features, and I support him like I support everything he's done.

Dragging CyberXXX and Jace through the mud with, as clear as I can tell, a mass of hysteria created and support by no one other than the original poster is beyond bizarre. The usual suspects have said their piece, and that's fine.

As to the patent conversation on ICQ. I was asked to reveal patent numbers and pending technologies to a third party. Prior to this conversation, he asked to partner with us on Feed Pushers. Because he couldn't type outside of 1337 5p34k, I told him I was unable to work with him. The next time I spoke to the company, they ICQ'd me again, this time about being worried that their copy of Feed Pushers would get them into legal trouble. They asked for my help researching patents. I told them, politely I might add, that they could feel free to engage a patent attorney or other intellectual property expert to perform their research, and that I wasn't going to spend any time on it. Again, I reiterated to them that I would not pursue them, should they create a product that swapped images, which is what they proposed.

Next, they asked if I'd be willing to create a copy of CyberXXX's CyberSEO plug-in. I declined, stating that I don't rip off people's software.

I offered them that I would sign a document, if they had it prepared, guaranteeing that I wouldn't cause trouble for them if they did something with rotating images. This clearly wasn't good enough for them, hence this thread.

As to giving them access to any patents, I have declined their fishing expedition, and I feel I have good reason. My attorney, who specializes in IP/VC, is the official patent holder on my behalf, of all but one of my technology patents. Some of these patents are in the "proof of concept" stage, and have not been monetized. To give someone access to that individual's name, especially someone who has shown a propensity for drama and copying ideas, would be absurd. I'm sure anyone rational would agree. I can't do much more than offer them what I already have, and again, I think rational people will agree that I've gone above and beyond.

As to the CyberXXX issue. He and I had a long-standing battle, yes, since 2003, and we've made up both publicly and privately. For the original poster to insinuate there's a problem between us is both disingenuous and hurtful to all parties. He neither "signed" anything over to me, or was pressured at any time to do so. We are working together by choice on other projects, and have worked out an agreement where he will share in some of the revenue from specific Feed Pushers projects. If he has or had an issue, I'm sure he'd come to me directly and not make up some fantasy thread like this.

I'm going to let this thread die, if it becomes a playground, so be it. I've given my reasoning and responses, and if there's a problem with any of it, feel free to ICQ me.

The original poster, who is clearly feeling scorned for being out of the loop, has already been blocked from Jace's ICQ due to similar lunacy and drama. To the best of my knowledge, he's gone "rogue" on this one, and doesn't speak for me, Jace, CyberXXX, or anyone else.

That is all, carry on. :thumbsup

edgeprod 09-01-2007 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msacras (Post 13021023)
a lot of interesting comments in this thread, took an interesting turn thats for sure

This post came in after I had hit reply, so I apologize for posting again, but I wanted to point out ... this person is the original poster's partner. It goes to show the depth of the disingenuous post and its motives.

Competition is healthy, and I encourage it, but this type of under-handed puff of smoke is pretty lame. :2 cents:

Enjoy. *bow*

Extreme John 09-01-2007 05:53 PM

SO in short.... There is no Patent, and in addition you are trying to make it as if the Thread starter is also saying shit about Cyber. Which as many times as I read this thread I didnt see.

msacras 09-01-2007 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 13021034)
This post came in after I had hit reply, so I apologize for posting again, but I wanted to point out ... this person is the original poster's partner. It goes to show the depth of the disingenuous post and its motives.

Competition is healthy, and I encourage it, but this type of under-handed puff of smoke is pretty lame. :2 cents:

Enjoy. *bow*

Yes, I'm his partner, I think a lot of people already knew that. Didn't know it would be disingenuous of me to post in this thread.

WarChild 09-01-2007 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 13021032)
As to the patent conversation on ICQ. I was asked to reveal patent numbers and pending technologies to a third party. Prior to this conversation, he asked to partner with us on Feed Pushers. Because he couldn't type outside of 1337 5p34k, I told him I was unable to work with him. The next time I spoke to the company, they ICQ'd me again, this time about being worried that their copy of Feed Pushers would get them into legal trouble. They asked for my help researching patents. I told them, politely I might add, that they could feel free to engage a patent attorney or other intellectual property expert to perform their research, and that I wasn't going to spend any time on it. Again, I reiterated to them that I would not pursue them, should they create a product that swapped images, which is what they proposed.

Sounds more or less reasonable, I guess.

Extreme John 09-01-2007 05:55 PM

Yeah it does, post the logs to support it which is my first thought. Yet to this point I see alot of defense, a shit load of writintg and a ton of name calling still with ZERO proof of anything.

TMM_John 09-01-2007 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 13021032)
As to giving them access to any patents, I have declined their fishing expedition, and I feel I have good reason. My attorney, who specializes in IP/VC, is the official patent holder on my behalf, of all but one of my technology patents. Some of these patents are in the "proof of concept" stage, and have not been monetized. To give someone access to that individual's name, especially someone who has shown a propensity for drama and copying ideas, would be absurd. I'm sure anyone rational would agree. I can't do much more than offer them what I already have, and again, I think rational people will agree that I've gone above and beyond.

What is your attorney's name? address? phone number? When we rerelease RSSdish I don't want to step on anyone's toes. If you don't show me a patent or give me a # then I can't guarantee that.

fatal attraction 09-01-2007 06:09 PM

Maybe I missed something but edgeprod, I've seen several threads with you and Jace both calling Cyberxxx a scammer and trying to ruin his reputation???? But, now all of a sudden he's not and you are working with him?? And makes me wonder why the hell he would want to have anything to do with you! Just things that make you wonder...

Extreme John 09-01-2007 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn (Post 13021089)
What is your attorney's name? address? phone number? When we rerelease RSSdish I don't want to step on anyone's toes. If you don't show me a patent or give me a # then I can't guarantee that.

John you cant do that anyway, I own the patent to the word "Dish"

TMM_John 09-01-2007 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Extreme John (Post 13021106)
John you cant do that anyway, I own the patent to the word "Dish"

Fuck!

One product we make that isn't a god damned acronym and you have to go and fuck it up!

Extreme John 09-01-2007 06:32 PM

Gotta play for keeps, Dave knows betta

uno 09-01-2007 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 13020949)
ok, you know what, fuck it

I am done, i am so sick of this shit it is insane

i am done with gfy, I am done with feedpushers, I am done with anything that I don't directly own personally 100%

at least for now

I need a break from this bullshit

Jace, feel free to hit me up on icq or aim if you want to vent.

Sounds like you need one of these:


I'll be getting a few later tonight.

shageman 09-01-2007 06:42 PM

Out of respect i didnt message you about shaddy shit like what is this what is that etc, i messaged you about the patent and what it was, what it said, what number it was etc, the first time i sent ya a icq you told me to fuck off pretty much when i tried to hit ya up the first time, the second time was about the patent and who to contact wasnt about ripping it off, it was more to save the ass of many people who have a product they have such as PB, and others, this bullshit about you having this patent under your fucking attorneys name are you serious.

When i asked you for his name then you shouldve gave it to me, since he has the patent, during our conver you had it and it was under your holding company, which is god knows what, so unless your lawyer is the holding company i dont know. I gave jace respect in this thread saying he does good blog installs etc, he just got mixed with shaddy dark sided people, you bullied cyberxxx into getting him in trouble with his employer about saying he was a scammer and shit. Then you come out with the idea of now lets sue everyone his client list, now hes even more scared. Then you work out some ass backwards deal telling him you will give him the world if he was to do this and that, sign over the company etc, either that or your going public with the lawsuits, now you posted the patent on the thread, did your lawyer take that for you, if so thats fucked up, now if not then you have it in your house, post the number and we can get on with this!

If anyone believes this is fucking backwards and shady post to cyberxxx and let him know not to sell out to this fucking assbackwards people and the shady scamming ass they show, and let him know not to do such a thing. His icq is 166924423 tell him its a good product and he should tell them to fuck off and keep going with it, but again im being a asshole to him, lol fuck you, now for your blog installs hit up jace he does a damn good job and its free, as i stated in the thread earlier, but again im a asshole again fuck off there.

shageman 09-01-2007 06:47 PM

wait i got back i looked over the thread still didnt see the patent number or contact information but several ask from several diff people, someone point me to where it is if i missed it

shageman 09-01-2007 07:14 PM

k in this thread
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...8&postcount=80

He posted a patent that he had with him......but not now

k now if you look at the sig on that patent it belongs to James E Rogan

now if you goto

http://www.infoplease.com/biography/...n-james-e.html

see he was the active director in 2001-2003 and phased out in 2004

so guys the patent is now either 6 yrs old or 4 yrs old, mighty long time before launch i would say or whatever, but again he took the picture in that thread

Marshal 09-01-2007 07:17 PM

huh, another drama thread... i'm experiencing one at the moment... :(

shageman 09-01-2007 07:20 PM

its not drama its the truth

GAMEFINEST 09-01-2007 07:21 PM

juss kickin it

BusterBunny 09-01-2007 07:21 PM

damn it i will get you gadget if its the last thing i do

Mr. Blue 09-01-2007 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Extreme John (Post 13021055)
Yeah it does, post the logs to support it which is my first thought. Yet to this point I see alot of defense, a shit load of writintg and a ton of name calling still with ZERO proof of anything.

If there is a patent they would have stated it already, why wouldn't they? It would pretty much end the conversation and I know shage...he would man up and admit he was wrong.

Also, people attacking shage and calling him a nobody because he doesn't have 30k in posts on GFY needs to put down the delusion juice.

shageman 09-01-2007 07:24 PM

thank you mr blue everyone who knows me knows im a stand up honest guy and i would say my bad, but this is going to far, getting a dude almost fired, making him sign shit over etc

TDF 09-01-2007 07:26 PM

WOWwwww..

shageman 09-01-2007 07:27 PM

wow is right, please post the patent number on page 3 now been asked 300 damn times

WarChild 09-01-2007 07:27 PM

So the long and short of it is there's no patent.

shageman 09-01-2007 07:30 PM

im going with yes, they publicly crushed a guy, almost made him lose his job, called him a scammer and forced him into something that he didnt want to do because he was looking out for his clients, this is completely and fucking utterly wrong and should be delt with...GFY requires proof, no proof was given, i have posted pics and threads, about this, even him holding a patent which he said he had, which was signed by someone who hasnt been there for 5 years about. Come on...this is bullshit

fuzebox 09-01-2007 07:34 PM

I am submitting my patent for preg_replace() right now!

shageman 09-01-2007 07:34 PM

do it or you can use a google image of one and say its yours

SNL 09-01-2007 07:36 PM

Jace was such a tuff guy a couple of days ago. What happened ?

shageman 09-01-2007 07:42 PM

naw its not with jace man, its with edge and the shaddy practice they did, jace just went with it as a employee believing everything this guy said

fatal attraction 09-01-2007 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 13021277)
So the long and short of it is there's no patent.

Sure as hell doesn't look like it! Or maybe we are all morons and people should hide thier patent #'s and not give them out when asked??? :1orglaugh

WarChild 09-01-2007 07:47 PM

This thread really delivers.

WarChild 09-01-2007 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatal attraction (Post 13021315)
Sure as hell doesn't look like it! Or maybe we are all morons and people should hide thier patent #'s and not give them out when asked??? :1orglaugh

At this point you can be fairly certain there's no patent. It's just getting ridiculous now.

shageman 09-01-2007 07:48 PM

i hope everyone is learning something with this thread, yes i have very little posts, but i been around a long time, i just want to make sure someone is fucked over because of these people

SNL 09-01-2007 07:49 PM

So edge used some fake patent # to push around cyberseo?

WarChild 09-01-2007 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNL (Post 13021320)
So edge used some fake patent # to push around cyberseo?

Looks that way.

fatal attraction 09-01-2007 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNL (Post 13021320)
So edge used some fake patent # to push around cyberseo?

Sure as hell looks like it! Until they can prove it wrong, which they don't seem to want to do.

shageman 09-01-2007 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shageman (Post 13021319)
i hope everyone is learning something with this thread, yes i have very little posts, but i been around a long time, i just want to make sure someone is fucked over because of these people

i ment not to be fucked over by these people at all


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