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Old 08-30-2007, 12:59 PM   #1
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Headless, Deej- Leave JTF alone.. for now.

With all due respect... Leave JTF alone, for now.

He was prime candidate for the board pisses while at epic, and was dishing it out. But now he's genuinely struggling with his career, health, etc- not the right time to start drama with somebody. Especially over (very) small financial dealings. Besides, this isn't about him scamming, or wrongdoing.. it's about his financial difficulties. Very different IMHO...

I think the drama has gotten too raw. Let him come back from all this, and work (privately with him) on a re-payment plan. The man has a family, and your bashing could do a great deal of damage to his rep right now, as he looks for work and tries to re-build.

Just my
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Old 08-30-2007, 01:03 PM   #2
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Old 08-30-2007, 01:08 PM   #3
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Old 08-30-2007, 01:09 PM   #4
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With all due respect... Leave JTF alone, for now.

He was prime candidate for the board pisses while at epic, and was dishing it out. But now he's genuinely struggling with his career, health, etc- not the right time to start drama with somebody. Especially over (very) small financial dealings. Besides, this isn't about him scamming, or wrongdoing.. it's about his financial difficulties. Very different IMHO...

I think the drama has gotten too raw. Let him come back from all this, and work (privately with him) on a re-payment plan. The man has a family, and your bashing could do a great deal of damage to his rep right now, as he looks for work and tries to re-build.

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with all due respect: jim has damaged his own reputation enough while still working at epic. that he got a new job after that was already surprising enough
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Old 08-30-2007, 01:15 PM   #5
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if Jim really wants to help himself he will get away from gfy for a few days, adding fuel to this lame drama is not going to help.

Not sure why people always threaten to sue etc etc...if I was gonna sue someone I would just do it...not warn them 20 times before doing so.
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Old 08-30-2007, 01:16 PM   #6
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With all due respect... Leave JTF alone, for now.

He was prime candidate for the board pisses while at epic, and was dishing it out. But now he's genuinely struggling with his career, health, etc- not the right time to start drama with somebody. Especially over (very) small financial dealings. Besides, this isn't about him scamming, or wrongdoing.. it's about his financial difficulties. Very different IMHO...

I think the drama has gotten too raw. Let him come back from all this, and work (privately with him) on a re-payment plan. The man has a family, and your bashing could do a great deal of damage to his rep right now, as he looks for work and tries to re-build.

Just my
This is all taken into consideration.

One reason i asked Headless to stop egging him on.

All i want is Jim to Man up and tell the fucking truth, I dont even want his fuckin money. I did it because im kind. I never bought any fuckin spot from him or whatever he wants to say... I gave to him because he asked, basicly out of nowhere, I thought to myself " dude is in the industry and has a reputation to uphold, he wont stiff me"

this was last year.

Jim can say. "Yes, i borrowed the money. I have not payed him back."

Thats it...


I honestly dont want hard feelings from anyone. Its the nice guy in me.

But my word was tarnished, i was not butt hurt from jim comments upon my design work.... i agree half the time on my stuff, Im my worst critic. ... but i posted it... its not "shit"...

then it grew out of control, instead of jim telling the truth or even letting it fall out of view... no... he makes up even more lies....




save face or shut the fuck up...



Plenty of people know me. They know Im honest.

Id like it kept that way.

Fuck slander, keep the truth.
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Old 08-30-2007, 01:22 PM   #7
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With all due respect... Leave JTF alone, for now.

He was prime candidate for the board pisses while at epic, and was dishing it out. But now he's genuinely struggling with his career, health, etc- not the right time to start drama with somebody. Especially over (very) small financial dealings. Besides, this isn't about him scamming, or wrongdoing.. it's about his financial difficulties. Very different IMHO...

I think the drama has gotten too raw. Let him come back from all this, and work (privately with him) on a re-payment plan. The man has a family, and your bashing could do a great deal of damage to his rep right now, as he looks for work and tries to re-build.

Just my

Jim can go after Headless when he is down, but somehow Jim deserves special treatment?

Jim gave up that right the second he started his career as the board-whore that have wished death to people, their family and business. I don't have anything personally against Jim, because I have never met or dealt with him. But for once, let him feel how it is to be at the other end of the stick.

Jim created the hate himself by spewing shit and threats day in and day out. Jim have always been one of the first to jump at peoples throat. Nobody should be surprised about the treatment he is getting right now.

I do agree with you about the private re-payment plan, but that will mean Jim have to stop the bullshit, and start showing a little respect for the community that have accepted his sickening behavior for quite a while now.

I really do wish Jim the best, but he will have to work for it - or at least earn it somehow.
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Old 08-30-2007, 01:23 PM   #8
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Jim can say. "Yes, i borrowed the money. I have not payed him back."

Thats it...



Fuck slander, keep the truth.
What do you say, Jim.. ready to wrap this up?

And sorry for sticking my nose in here.. not my place.. i just sense good guys on both sides.. and unfortunate ramifications that go far beyond this board.
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Old 08-30-2007, 01:25 PM   #9
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What do you say, Jim.. ready to wrap this up?

And sorry for sticking my nose in here.. not my place.. i just sense good guys on both sides.. and unfortunate ramifications that go far beyond this board.
I agree. Reputations are at hand. This is why i never said anything.

also. as many agree. 40 bucks is trivial. But my goal is the truth.

the ramifications you speak i assume are potential financial stability... correct?


Well... I know I would want an honest person on my side, working for me, with me or above me..
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Old 08-30-2007, 01:28 PM   #10
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Jim can go after Headless when he is down, but somehow Jim deserves special treatment?

Jim gave up that right the second he started his career as the board-whore that have wished death to people, their family and business. I don't have anything personally against Jim, because I have never met or dealt with him. But for once, let him feel how it is to be at the other end of the stick.

Jim created the hate himself by spewing shit and threats day in and day out. Jim have always been one of the first to jump at peoples throat. Nobody should be surprised about the treatment he is getting right now.

I do agree with you about the private re-payment plan, but that will mean Jim have to stop the bullshit, and start showing a little respect for the community that have accepted his sickening behavior for quite a while now.

I really do wish Jim the best, but he will have to work for it - or at least earn it somehow.
You probably know more about it than me.. but to me it seems like Jim was working for a very 'unique' company, for a very 'unique' boss, with a very 'unique' marketing strategy. Extreme was the word of the day.. everyday, and it all played out on the board, only. But now, it has all become quite real. Perhaps lesson has been learned? karma is the bigger bitch... we don't need to put things in people's faces.. seems to me that the universe does that for us.
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Old 08-30-2007, 01:28 PM   #11
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CBT said in a post the other day
"telling the truth only get you in trouble once"


or something like that.
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You probably know more about it than me.. but to me it seems like Jim was working for a very 'unique' company, for a very 'unique' boss, with a very 'unique' marketing strategy. Extreme was the word of the day.. everyday, and it all played out on the board, only. But now, it has all become quite real. Perhaps lesson has been learned? karma is the bigger bitch... we don't need to put things in people's faces.. seems to me that the universe does that for us.
I think lesson is being learned right as we speak, but its up to Jim to get real and do what it takes to end it. I think someone finally realise that being a board-whore have its consequences in terms of peoples general opinion, respect and compassion towards you.

As I said. I do wish Jim the best, but he will have to work for it, just like everyone else.
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Old 08-30-2007, 01:56 PM   #13
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the ramifications you speak i assume are potential financial stability... correct?


Well... I know I would want an honest person on my side, working for me, with me or above me..
Yeah, exactly. Seems the sooner jtf gets back on his feet, the sooner he can address all of this.. and the drama could stall his efforts.
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I think lesson is being learned right as we speak, but its up to Jim to get real and do what it takes to end it. I think someone finally realise that being a board-whore have its consequences in terms of peoples general opinion, respect and compassion towards you.

As I said. I do wish Jim the best, but he will have to work for it, just like everyone else.
Tough love. I can respect that.
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