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ADL Colin · 09-10-2002, 09:32 AM

"What Europe gave the world in the last 100 years?"

Well, a lot actually.

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"Almost every American has some direct relation to WWII."

Yup. Most that I know. My grandfather served in the Navy. I have his medals.

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"we have bigger and better bombs. "

THIS is what makes America great. :-)
BIG EXPENSIVE WEAPONS!

(NOTE: Hockey makes Finland great. That is good too.)

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"In 1997, the United States gave $6.88 billion in non-military aid to developing countries."

Generous. Don't forget the military aid! Having a large population shouldn't be held against a country.

You a reader of the globalist?
http://www.theglobalist.com/DBWeb/St...x?StoryId=1102

drew · 09-10-2002, 09:35 AM

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Originally posted by ControlThy
Haha Drew, you crack me up cowboy.

You obviously have never been to the EU.

Dear liberal ControlThy.
I spent 5 months in so called EU 3 years ago. I am 35 years of age and only once in the states I had been stoped by cops for speeding. In those 5 months I was stoped about 20 times without any reason, and asked for ID. I think France is the worst.

drew · 09-10-2002, 09:42 AM

ControlThy
I have a better idea. Since you dont like US stop using any US based program. I am sure you dont need bad US dollars. You can start your own European based programs and cheat each other, since most of the cheaters are Europeans.

ControlThy · 09-10-2002, 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by drew

Dear liberal ControlThy.
I spent 5 months in so called EU 3 years ago. I am 35 years of age and only once in the states I had been stoped by cops for speeding. In those 5 months I was stoped about 20 times without any reason, and asked for ID. I think France is the worst.

Wow, that is so bad.

I have been to most EU states and never had these problems, I own real estate in several states so I get to travel alot and never was I stopped for speeding.

Maybe you shouldn't drive 100 miles per hour?

How about the blacks in the US that get stopped without a reason? Are they innocent too?

Fletch XXX · 09-10-2002, 09:44 AM

America is just a word but I use it.
Language keeps me locked and repeating.
All work and no play makes fletch a dull boy.
America is just a word but I use it.
Language keeps me locked and repeating.
All work and no play makes fletch a dull boy.
America is just a word but I use it.
Language keeps me locked and repeating.
All work and no play makes fletch a dull boy.
America is just a word but I use it.
Language keeps me locked and repeating.
All work and no play makes fletch a dull boy.

PornoDoggy · 09-10-2002, 09:44 AM

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Originally posted by BabeHunter

oh...so that's why then been teaching you in school...."the evil soviets attacked us...so the nice nazis helped us"
you might not be as bad today...but back then you were the same as the nazi scum

That's patently untrue. Sure, there were Nazi sympathyzers in Finland, just like there were in lots of other countries, and some collaborated. Finland didn't have a CHOICE about helping Germany, for the most part - and why shouldn't they turn to the only folks offering them help when they were attacked. Hell's bells, Russia finally won only through sheer numbers - they probably lost 10x the number of troops the Finns did.

The whole politics of WWII is a hell of a lot more complicated than most Americans realize. We sat over here watching the facists overthrow the elected government of Spain and did nothing. We watched the Finns attacked by Russia and did nothing. We watched the French and others be overrun and did very little.

ControlThy · 09-10-2002, 09:45 AM

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Originally posted by drew
ControlThy
I have a better idea. Since you dont like US stop using any US based program. I am sure you dont need bad US dollars. You can start your own European based programs and cheat each other, since mosdt of the cheaters are Europeans.

Who said I don't like the US?

I don't use any sponsor programs except for 1 which isn't US based, so sorry.

ADL Colin · 09-10-2002, 09:45 AM

"All work and no play makes fletch a dull boy. "

HAHA

drew · 09-10-2002, 09:47 AM

"What Europe gave the world in the last 100 years?"

Well, a lot actually.

LOL
A lot is not a answer. Tell me what.

PornoDoggy · 09-10-2002, 09:52 AM

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Originally posted by ControlThy
XP,

OFF-topic question:

When will Turkey embrace Western values and start working to build a more democratic country?

I am wondering because Turkey wants to join the EU and all.

That fight in Turkey has been going on since 1920 (+/-), and it's been a constant struggle. They are fighting a serious fundamentalist political movement at the moment, from what I understand.

drew · 09-10-2002, 09:55 AM

Two great leaders Europe gave us in the last 100 years:

<img src="http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/GERhitler2.JPG">

<img src="http://www.niagara.com/~freedom/accniag/s1936a.gif">

drew · 09-10-2002, 10:02 AM

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Originally posted by ControlThy

Wow, that is so bad.

I have been to most EU states and never had these problems, I own real estate in several states so I get to travel alot and never was I stopped for speeding.

Maybe you shouldn't drive 100 miles per hour?

How about the blacks in the US that get stopped without a reason? Are they innocent too?

I guess you are not too smart. When They stoped me for speeding I deserved to be stoped. But I wasnt even driving in Europe. Like in Paris. I was just sitting on the bench and Cops asked for ID.

But I understand your point. You can not really miss what you've never had. And that is Freedom.

Sly_RJ · 09-10-2002, 10:08 AM

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Originally posted by XP
2) US don't care about saving world, cowboy bush declined Kyoto protocol! But in every US movie, an US citizen saves the world! WTF?!?

Not that I like her, but Hillary Clinton was even against the Kyoto.

Rose · 09-10-2002, 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Not that I like her, but Hillary Clinton was even against the Kyoto.

Kyoto , another great idea from great European minds. Keep it on your side of the ocean please.

TaDoW · 09-10-2002, 10:15 AM

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Originally posted by MaxDent

America is the evil empire? Compared to who? Iraq? China? Where there aren't many freedoms. America cannot be compared to a single country because we are a melting pot of pretty much everyone. If we were truly so terrible then why are there so many people trying to get in? Life is better here. Standards of living high, it is simple to get a basic education, and only here do people actually have the hope of being successful. The middle class in this country support the rich and the very poor by paying high taxes. Mostly to fund glut in entitlements for the poor and pork projects for all members of government. I'd agree that most Americans don't have a clue but we do value freedom, freedom of speech, and human rights, something that is a unique value system. I don't know of another country where these values are held as high as the US. As far as the brand name and such that non-Americans have access to, those products are probably the staples of their entire economy and are probably produced locally which provides jobs.

Sometimes it is fun to be an American after Sept 11? I can't and wouldn't want to turn on/off my citizenship like a light switch. I'm very proud of who I am and where I'm from. I pitty that you are taking the narrow view. However, I would fight and die to protect your 'freedom' to speak your views even if you wouldn't return the favor.

Just my

I agree with what max said .. except on one thing ..

"the middle class supports the rich on its taxes" .. that is pretty far from the truth... the rich supports EVERYONE .. 95% of the taxes here are paid by the uppoer 10% of the income population.

HOWEVER ... a lot of what he said was dead on. And for those of you non-US citizens who think that we are caught up with brand names and all that shit, can you please tell me why every FOREIGN familiy I see in the states is clad in an incredibly outlandish display of brand names. It's like I'm walking by a fuckin store! Asians, Middle Easterners, Mexicans, Europeans .. everybody blows their wads on brand name clothing for god knows what reason .. That's why Costco is blowing up, cuz you can get cheap ass name brand shit for almost nothing ...

One more thing. for those of you posting on this board talking about how shitty it is here in america ... please consider this... In your country you'd probably be lynched for publicly saying half the things you do on here.

ADL Colin · 09-10-2002, 10:15 AM

Off the top of my head?

The radio (assuming marconi), theory of relativity, birth of quantum mechanics, neon lights, von braun's rocket, discovery of penicillin, aspirin, cathode ray tube, modern submarine, sold first automobile (benz), cloning (Dolly, Britain).

Porsche, Ferarri, mercedes, BMW, ...

Amazing number of great mathematicians (see Hungary), physicists, etc. many of which left Europe during WW II.

Many more I am sure. I have a poor memory.

OH! And the BIKINI!

drew · 09-10-2002, 10:21 AM

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Originally posted by Colin
Off the top of my head?

The radio (assuming marconi), theory of relativity, birth of quantum mechanics, neon lights, von braun's rocket, discovery of penicillin, aspirin, cathode ray tube, modern submarine, sold first automobile (benz).

Porsche, Ferarri, mercedes, BMW, ...

Amazing number of great mathematicians (see Hungary), physicists, etc. many of which left Europe during WW II.

Many more I am sure. I have a poor memory.

OH! And the BIKINI!

OK if you compare cars to Death camps I rest my case.

ControlThy · 09-10-2002, 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by drew
I guess you are not too smart.

Coming from you, don't make me laugh.

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When They stoped me for speeding I deserved to be stoped. But I wasnt even driving in Europe. Like in Paris. I was just sitting on the bench and Cops asked for ID.

Well that must have been a traumatic experience for you Drew.

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But I understand your point. You can not really miss what you've never had. And that is Freedom.

I guess so, that is why I envy your freedom so much.

TaDoW · 09-10-2002, 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by Colin

OH! And the BIKINI!

But all of those are set back because of the introduction of the Speedo ...

ControlThy · 09-10-2002, 10:28 AM

Drew Pal,

I have never seen a more intelligent person than you, you must have had your education at Harvard university. Obviously not at Oxford university because that one is based in Europe..... and well we all know how you feel about Europe.

Just the Village Idiot · 09-10-2002, 10:28 AM

These European pseudo-intellectuals crack me up.

"The problem we have with America is that their government thinks they know what's best for the whole world. But they don't *I* and my countrymen do!"

The problem with perceptions is that you are always locked in your own.

American's (for the most) believe their perception is right and people from all around the world (for the most part) think their countries perceptions are right. Sometimes they agree and sometimes they don't.

When you break it down this way the only difference is power. Plain and simple power.

To be helpless when you think/know you're right is a horrible thing and often leads to a hatred of the "oppressor".

Pretty simple acutally -- but what do I know...

I'm only an American living in the Eastern Bloc.

Fletch XXX · 09-10-2002, 10:28 AM

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Originally posted by Colin
"All work and no play makes fletch a dull boy. "

HAHA

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Originally posted by TaDoW

But all of those are set back because of the introduction of the Speedo ...

The Speedo was Polish invention I believe.

;)

MaxDent · 09-10-2002, 10:28 AM

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Originally posted by Terenzo

freedom in america ??? hehehe.. i have been living there, in a middwest town in southern illinois near the indiana border. very kind people, but freedom???

freedom compared to china, russia, yes that might be true, but in my fucking country the highest politicans or bankers can travel by train, they don't have to be scared by terrorists, and if you say that switzerland is fucking tiny, smaller than one of your bigger cities, yes that might be true!! but our banks still control more private equity than everyone else!

man, i like america, i like americans (unlike labret does). but some folks overthere are fucking clueless and naive. i have seen interviews of gi's in afghanistan! fuck, they really believe they help someone else besides their own government which want to secure that oil pipline in northern afghanistan.

i tell you, i am fucking scared of the us goverment. the us should start to respect international treaties then it would get back political respect. the us could make a worldwide peace, but some governmental fucker just dont want.

Is the only comparison we Americans hear about is Switzerland? I commend the Swiss and how well their society works however they don't support a multi ethnic population of 250 million people. Also, how's that Nazi gold coming? You know, when you were supposed to be 'neutral?' Seriously though, you lived in the outback in the mid West. The US is as diverse as driving from one State to the next. Like how Europeans differ. The point that you so clearly miss is that we are unique as are our ideals. Our government may not be perfect but I never hear the Swiss government spearheading anything other than talks. Many times action is the appropriate course. Keep in mind, it is a big bad world out there.

drew · 09-10-2002, 10:36 AM

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Originally posted by ControlThy

I guess so, that is why I envy your freedom so much.

My dear friend socialist ControlThy.
You are the one on this board posting you anti american BS. I dont care about EU. If your fucked up system works for you, it's OK with me. I dont call for stoping European companies enterin our market like you do. "OHHH Those bad American Fast food restaurants are poisoning us". You dont like their food dont eat there. But your socialist mind
can not take that people may have a choice to eat there.
Listen, we dont want your socialist system on this side of the ocean. We dont wanna pay high taxes.
We dont wanna pay high prices. We dont want your Kyoto and your other "smart fucked up ideas".

JConway · 09-10-2002, 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by MultiBill
For the record

I dont know of any Australian who doesnt like our American mates

Australia is the "ONLY" country that has fought in every war and skirmish with the United States of Amercica (excluding only your American Civil War).

Many of my best mates are Yanks, and I wouldn't have it any other way

Fuck IRAQ
Fuck Saddam

God save America (and Australia)

That's what I'm talkin' about... A little love.

JConway · 09-10-2002, 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by mika
One thing that I find funny,too, is this bullying of Americans about World War II.
USA just sent some troops to Europe, and aid, for sure. However, it's ridiculous how 20 year old adult webmasters still brag about it like it was their trophy.

Finland fought alone against a mighty Soviet Union. Basically everyone's grandfather was in the war and actually fought in major fucked-up places. as someone mentioned , Russia 25 million deaths. Germany lot more than USA. You could go on and on.

Yet, the people who mostly BRAG about WW2 are Americans. That's because they never really get to experience that war in personal level, or did they? You American bragger, was YOUR grandfather in WW2, or are you just bullying because you know someone who's grandfather's cousin was in the war.

Both of my grandfathers were in the war, both survived.

And we are the pompous pieces of shit? Check yourself asshole!! Both of my grandfathers were in the war. One was a fighter pilot the other was in infantry. By a grace of god, both survived.

ControlThy · 09-10-2002, 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by drew

My dear friend socialist ControlThy.
You are the one on this board posting you anti american BS. I dont care about EU.

Captain Drew,

Again, I never said that I don't like the US.
But I guess that is too hard for you to grasp so this is my last attempt at getting that data to your brain.

Lets meet in New York next month and have dinner in your favorite junkfood restaurant, okay?

ADL Colin · 09-10-2002, 10:47 AM

"if you compare cars to Death camps I rest my case."

Drew,

I don't think many people blame Nazi death camps on "Europe". That's something like saying Canada invented the light bulb because it is in North America.

PornoDoggy · 09-10-2002, 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by MaxDent

Also, how's that Nazi gold coming? You know, when you were supposed to be 'neutral?'

Probably about as well as Ford, General Motors, Chase Manhattan Bank, and many other countries ... while we were belligerents.

drew · 09-10-2002, 10:56 AM

Rights that are set forth by the Constitution of the United States are neither questionable nor should they be debated by uninformed quasi?socialist Europeans. (This is not to say that all Europeans are Socialists.) For one reason. It's not their business. I don't plan on BEING European, So I dont give a crap about their socialism? Just dont try to export it here.

ControlThy I dont eat in fast food reastaurants. But I want to have a choice to eat there if I want to. I dont need some bleeding heart liberals telling me how to live my life and what is good for me.

PornoDoggy · 09-10-2002, 10:58 AM

Talking about relatives in the war ... my father had a little disagreement with some law enforcement folks over some high-school bullshit in the summer of 1940, and he decided that joining the service was going to provide better accomodations than other options being discussed. Now, he listened to enough radio and read enough news to know there was a war coming (even if the Republicans in the Senate didn't), so he enlisted in the Coast Guard in the hopes of helping defend the Mississippi River from the Nazis.

At the train station when he was getting ready to ship out, his recruiter said, "Oh, by the way." Now, anyone who has been in the service knows that's not a good sign. The recruiter proceeds to inform my father that the Coast Guard becomes a part of the Navy during a national emergency, AND that Roosevelt had already declared the emergency. By March or April of 1941 my old man was on a WWI-era destroyer escort hunting submarines in the North Atlantic off Newfoundland. He also made two convoys to Russia and was close enough to the beach on D-Day (a DE is a very small ship) to see what was going on.

ControlThy · 09-10-2002, 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by drew
ControlThy I dont eat in fast food reastaurants. But I want to have a choice to eat there if I want to. I dont need some bleeding heart liberals telling me how to live my life and what is good for me.

Why the bitterness Drew?
You seem so frustrated when it comes to Europe, I can't imagine what Europe has done to you to activate such strong emotions?

Well I am going for a walk, lets hope I can safely make it across the street without being stopped by a police officer!

drew · 09-10-2002, 11:02 AM

Hey this is for that guy from Neutral Switzerland.
LOL Even your president tried to look like his friend Adolf.
Marcel Pilet-Golaz - President of Switzerland during WWII

<img src="http://www.admin.ch/ch/img/br-foto/55.gif">

PornoDoggy · 09-10-2002, 11:03 AM

Drew, did you get a bad batch of chocolate or a defective watch somewhere along the line?

ADL Colin · 09-10-2002, 11:11 AM

I love America but I had a great fucking time in Europe.

Three words: ADULT FILM AWARDS.

Love ya, Cannes!

Rose · 09-10-2002, 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by PornoDoggy
Drew, did you get a bad batch of chocolate or a defective watch somewhere along the line?

Now I am laughing. Everybody knows that Switzerland was nothing more than private bank for Nazis. That's why they let you live. But that guy looks like Adolf's twin brother.

ADL Colin · 09-10-2002, 11:20 AM

Can any of us honestly say how we would have acted living in a Nazi occupied country when we cared and loved our family and friends?

Self-preservation of self and family causes a lot of interesting decisions.

Everything sounds so easy talking about something that happened 60 years ago to people we don't know (for many of us).

JConway · 09-10-2002, 12:19 PM

One last question for Mika:

If Finland even has a military, have you served in it? Let's not rest on the laurels of what our grandfathers did. If you love your country so much, and are so patriotic, have you fought for your country?

Socks · 09-10-2002, 12:24 PM

Everyone doesn't hate americans.

mika · 09-10-2002, 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by JConway
One last question for Mika:

If Finland even has a military, have you served in it? Let's not rest on the laurels of what our grandfathers did. If you love your country so much, and are so patriotic, have you fought for your country?

Yes I have served.
I haven't fought for my country, the ww2 was the last war Finnish were part of so I haven't had to.
I like to keep it that way.
I like peace.

JConway · 09-10-2002, 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by Socks
Everyone doesn't hate americans.

You are right, that was a bad generalization. It just seems that most non-Americans do.

Que? · 09-10-2002, 02:02 PM

Most people dont hate everything american but some of it with fair reason i think.

Ive heard americans express good understanding why.

The way corporate and political america conducts business is percieved as bullish and provocative. I know this is how americans behave and compete nationally but its considered rude and agressive in many parts of the world.

When your in a group you need to show some consideration and understanding for the others needs and position. Especially if your the strongest part or you will look like a bully that pursues your own interst over the corpses of others...

The behaviour that the strongest decides, will give rise to a lot of hate even without any envy. Only leaders with some humility
are ever really loved....

Que? · 09-10-2002, 02:09 PM

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Now I am laughing. Everybody knows that Switzerland was nothing more than private bank for Nazis.

I dont defend swiss banks. But what would you have done if you lived in Main and the rest of the US ganged up on you?

Undressed and mooned the tank commanders?

Nautilus · 09-10-2002, 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by mika

Tell me, why didn't USA help poor little Finland when Soviet Union attacked? Maybe there wasn't a good cause.

And who told you they didn't? Actually, 350 US volunteers went and fought on Finland's side. They were not the government troops, just 350 good people who went and fought for what they believed was the good cause. Same as thousands other volunteers from different countries did.

In all your arguments about the Winter War you're somehow bypassing the volunteers topic and choose "poor little Finland" attitude instead.

Nautilus · 09-10-2002, 02:40 PM

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Originally posted by PornoDoggy
If the Japanese had attacked Russia in 1942, WE might be speaking Japanese west of the Mississippi, and German east of it.

Or not speaking at all...

Nautilus · 09-10-2002, 02:46 PM

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Originally posted by drew
Two great leaders Europe gave us in the last 100 years:

<img src="http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/GERhitler2.JPG">

<img src="http://www.niagara.com/~freedom/accniag/s1936a.gif">

You forgot to mention this one:

ChrisH · 09-10-2002, 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by JConway
Why does everybody hate everything associated with Americans and America, except Americans?

<h1>Who Gives a Fuck?</h1>

JConway · 09-10-2002, 03:07 PM

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Originally posted by ChrisH

<h1>Who Gives a Fuck?</h1>

Thanks for coming.

Bye bye now.

Bye bye.

The Freestyler · 09-10-2002, 03:18 PM

Hey! What day is tomorrow?

12clicks · 09-10-2002, 03:25 PM

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Originally posted by Que?

When your in a group you need to show some consideration and understanding for the others needs and position. Especially if your the strongest part or you will look like a bully that pursues your own interst over the corpses of others...

The behaviour that the strongest decides, will give rise to a lot of hate even without any envy. Only leaders with some humility
are ever really loved....

This is the mindset of the losers. The winners don't see it this way.
If someone else is better than you an American thinks, "I'll find a way to do better" a european thinks, "that's so unfair that they're better. I don't like them"

09-10-2002, 09:32 AM	#151
ADL Colin Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Tube Titans, USA Posts: 11,929	"What Europe gave the world in the last 100 years?" Well, a lot actually. =========== "Almost every American has some direct relation to WWII." Yup. Most that I know. My grandfather served in the Navy. I have his medals. ============ "we have bigger and better bombs. " THIS is what makes America great. :-) BIG EXPENSIVE WEAPONS! (NOTE: Hockey makes Finland great. That is good too.) ============ "In 1997, the United States gave $6.88 billion in non-military aid to developing countries." Generous. Don't forget the military aid! Having a large population shouldn't be held against a country. You a reader of the globalist? http://www.theglobalist.com/DBWeb/St...x?StoryId=1102 __________________ Adult Date Link - $50 PPS starting NOW! -- good and JUICY! skype = "adultdatelink" Last edited by ADL Colin; 09-10-2002 at 09:37 AM..

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drew Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: us Posts: 336	ControlThy I have a better idea. Since you dont like US stop using any US based program. I am sure you dont need bad US dollars. You can start your own European based programs and cheat each other, since most of the cheaters are Europeans. Last edited by drew; 09-10-2002 at 09:43 AM..

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Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	America is just a word but I use it. Language keeps me locked and repeating. All work and no play makes fletch a dull boy. America is just a word but I use it. Language keeps me locked and repeating. All work and no play makes fletch a dull boy. America is just a word but I use it. Language keeps me locked and repeating. All work and no play makes fletch a dull boy. America is just a word but I use it. Language keeps me locked and repeating. All work and no play makes fletch a dull boy. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

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ADL Colin Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Tube Titans, USA Posts: 11,929	"All work and no play makes fletch a dull boy. " HAHA __________________ Adult Date Link - $50 PPS starting NOW! -- good and JUICY! skype = "adultdatelink"

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ADL Colin Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Tube Titans, USA Posts: 11,929	Off the top of my head? The radio (assuming marconi), theory of relativity, birth of quantum mechanics, neon lights, von braun's rocket, discovery of penicillin, aspirin, cathode ray tube, modern submarine, sold first automobile (benz), cloning (Dolly, Britain). Porsche, Ferarri, mercedes, BMW, ... Amazing number of great mathematicians (see Hungary), physicists, etc. many of which left Europe during WW II. Many more I am sure. I have a poor memory. OH! And the BIKINI! __________________ Adult Date Link - $50 PPS starting NOW! -- good and JUICY! skype = "adultdatelink" Last edited by ADL Colin; 09-10-2002 at 10:23 AM..

09-10-2002, 09:47 AM	#159
drew Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: us Posts: 336	"What Europe gave the world in the last 100 years?" Well, a lot actually. LOL A lot is not a answer. Tell me what.

09-10-2002, 09:55 AM	#161
drew Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: us Posts: 336	Two great leaders Europe gave us in the last 100 years: <img src="http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/GERhitler2.JPG"> <img src="http://www.niagara.com/~freedom/accniag/s1936a.gif">

09-10-2002, 10:28 AM	#170
ControlThy Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,909	Drew Pal, I have never seen a more intelligent person than you, you must have had your education at Harvard university. Obviously not at Oxford university because that one is based in Europe..... and well we all know how you feel about Europe.

09-10-2002, 10:28 AM	#171
Just the Village Idiot Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 581	These European pseudo-intellectuals crack me up. "The problem we have with America is that their government thinks they know what's best for the whole world. But they don't I and my countrymen do!" The problem with perceptions is that you are always locked in your own. American's (for the most) believe their perception is right and people from all around the world (for the most part) think their countries perceptions are right. Sometimes they agree and sometimes they don't. When you break it down this way the only difference is power. Plain and simple power. To be helpless when you think/know you're right is a horrible thing and often leads to a hatred of the "oppressor". Pretty simple acutally -- but what do I know... I'm only an American living in the Eastern Bloc.

09-10-2002, 10:47 AM	#178
ADL Colin Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Tube Titans, USA Posts: 11,929	"if you compare cars to Death camps I rest my case." Drew, I don't think many people blame Nazi death camps on "Europe". That's something like saying Canada invented the light bulb because it is in North America. __________________ Adult Date Link - $50 PPS starting NOW! -- good and JUICY! skype = "adultdatelink"

09-10-2002, 10:56 AM	#180
drew Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: us Posts: 336	Rights that are set forth by the Constitution of the United States are neither questionable nor should they be debated by uninformed quasi?socialist Europeans. (This is not to say that all Europeans are Socialists.) For one reason. It's not their business. I don't plan on BEING European, So I dont give a crap about their socialism? Just dont try to export it here. ControlThy I dont eat in fast food reastaurants. But I want to have a choice to eat there if I want to. I dont need some bleeding heart liberals telling me how to live my life and what is good for me.

09-10-2002, 10:58 AM	#181
PornoDoggy Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,053	Talking about relatives in the war ... my father had a little disagreement with some law enforcement folks over some high-school bullshit in the summer of 1940, and he decided that joining the service was going to provide better accomodations than other options being discussed. Now, he listened to enough radio and read enough news to know there was a war coming (even if the Republicans in the Senate didn't), so he enlisted in the Coast Guard in the hopes of helping defend the Mississippi River from the Nazis. At the train station when he was getting ready to ship out, his recruiter said, "Oh, by the way." Now, anyone who has been in the service knows that's not a good sign. The recruiter proceeds to inform my father that the Coast Guard becomes a part of the Navy during a national emergency, AND that Roosevelt had already declared the emergency. By March or April of 1941 my old man was on a WWI-era destroyer escort hunting submarines in the North Atlantic off Newfoundland. He also made two convoys to Russia and was close enough to the beach on D-Day (a DE is a very small ship) to see what was going on.

09-10-2002, 11:02 AM	#183
drew Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: us Posts: 336	Hey this is for that guy from Neutral Switzerland. LOL Even your president tried to look like his friend Adolf. Marcel Pilet-Golaz - President of Switzerland during WWII <img src="http://www.admin.ch/ch/img/br-foto/55.gif">

09-10-2002, 11:03 AM	#184
PornoDoggy Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,053	Drew, did you get a bad batch of chocolate or a defective watch somewhere along the line?

09-10-2002, 11:11 AM	#185
ADL Colin Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Tube Titans, USA Posts: 11,929	I love America but I had a great fucking time in Europe. Three words: ADULT FILM AWARDS. Love ya, Cannes! __________________ Adult Date Link - $50 PPS starting NOW! -- good and JUICY! skype = "adultdatelink"

09-10-2002, 11:20 AM	#187
ADL Colin Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Tube Titans, USA Posts: 11,929	Can any of us honestly say how we would have acted living in a Nazi occupied country when we cared and loved our family and friends? Self-preservation of self and family causes a lot of interesting decisions. Everything sounds so easy talking about something that happened 60 years ago to people we don't know (for many of us). __________________ Adult Date Link - $50 PPS starting NOW! -- good and JUICY! skype = "adultdatelink"

09-10-2002, 12:19 PM	#188
JConway Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 594	One last question for Mika: If Finland even has a military, have you served in it? Let's not rest on the laurels of what our grandfathers did. If you love your country so much, and are so patriotic, have you fought for your country?

09-10-2002, 12:24 PM	#189
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	Everyone doesn't hate americans.

09-10-2002, 02:02 PM	#192
Que? Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 340	Most people dont hate everything american but some of it with fair reason i think. Ive heard americans express good understanding why. The way corporate and political america conducts business is percieved as bullish and provocative. I know this is how americans behave and compete nationally but its considered rude and agressive in many parts of the world. When your in a group you need to show some consideration and understanding for the others needs and position. Especially if your the strongest part or you will look like a bully that pursues your own interst over the corpses of others... The behaviour that the strongest decides, will give rise to a lot of hate even without any envy. Only leaders with some humility are ever really loved.... __________________ Send ccia out to deep space:<br> Donate to <a href="http://www.impai.org/">IMPA</a>

09-10-2002, 03:18 PM	#199
The Freestyler Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 47	Hey! What day is tomorrow? __________________ People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do!