Could this be a Strongbox issue? - GoFuckYourself.com

Dirty F · 07-26-2007, 04:13 PM

Maybe i'm wrong and i wouldn't have noticed it if it didnt happen to me twice in a row.

It sure looks like sites that use Strongbox protection lock your ip if you enter your login / password wrong just 1 time.

If you try again and enter it correctly you won't get in anymore. I guess untill someone manually clears your ip.

Once again i might be wrong here but this happened twice in a row to me.

Anna_O · 07-26-2007, 04:16 PM

You have more than one try with strongbox. Not sure exactly how many, but at least three. Don't know if you can change that setting though...

FakeNick · 07-26-2007, 04:17 PM

its because you were caught sharing your password

jerzeemedia · 07-26-2007, 04:17 PM

If you hit up Ray he's always really thorough and helpful.

Azlord · 07-26-2007, 04:19 PM

Are you hitting the back button when you put in the wrong username or are you clicking the link to go back to the login page.

FANTASTIC · 07-26-2007, 04:19 PM

Fantastic info franck!

Dirty F · 07-26-2007, 04:20 PM

Btw, not bashing them or anything. Im actually considering using them.

Azlord, i really dont remember. I think i tried both.

BV · 07-26-2007, 04:21 PM

I know that's the case with ProxyPass, but it's also set to 3 times and then the 4th you are locked.

It might be the IP you are trying to enter from also. If you are trying to access the site from a bad IP that is on their abuse list that might explain it. Probably not though because if you were you probably would not even see the login box and get redirected the first try.

Maybe they have the settings set for only 1 incorrect login.

Does it reset after a certain amount of time?

ER!C L!VE · 07-26-2007, 04:31 PM

I've had the same issue. The way I've found to fix that issue is to close all windows, relaunch firefox or internet explorer and try again.

I like strongbox/throttlebox - excellent products.

Blue Player · 07-26-2007, 04:39 PM

Proxy Pass rocks. I had it installed 3 years ago and I have to say it makes my life so much easier. It has saved me thousands.

Azlord · 07-26-2007, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

Btw, not bashing them or anything. Im actually considering using them.

Azlord, i really dont remember. I think i tried both.

I know that if you press the back button on the browser it fucks up. So make sure you click the link to go back. If you have tried a few times and have been unsucessful then you were block based on too many login attempts.

hope it helps

Dennis69 · 07-26-2007, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azlord

I know that if you press the back button on the browser it fucks up. So make sure you click the link to go back. If you have tried a few times and have been unsucessful then you were block based on too many login attempts.

hope it helps

Yeah thats the problem because I was just hitting back and it blocked me so I got in touch with Ray to find out why

aico · 07-26-2007, 05:23 PM

Does not lock you after 1 failed attempt. But, if you do fail, and you hit the back button to try again, it will not load the new Text Image, but instead the cached one from your previous attempt, so you will fail again as the image will not match up.

Dirty F · 07-26-2007, 05:34 PM

Yes, that could be the problem. As i said im not sure what exactly i did but its certainly an option.

Axeman · 07-26-2007, 06:12 PM

Huge fan of Strongbox myself. But never had anyone locked out after just one attempt.

zand_stein · 07-26-2007, 06:32 PM

I know that if you press the back button on the browser it fucks up. So make sure you click the link to go back. .......

gmr324 · 07-27-2007, 12:02 PM

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There is a limit on the number of failed login
attempts from the same IP and it is
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the fact that the same password was used
in L.A. and NYC. We pinpoint the abuse
instantly, allowingfor the possibility of
legitimate travel.

The advantage of this approach is that it puts
less emphasis on the number of failed login
attempts and more emphasis on the location
of the login.

The second way we make life simple for
webmasters is through Automated Member
Support. So, if this abuse/sharing happens
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password re-issued to them via email.
As a result, the paying member is not blocked
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Dirty F · 07-27-2007, 12:04 PM

Thanks. I will buy a copy one of these days.

gmr324 · 07-27-2007, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Thanks. I will buy a copy one of these days.

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raymor · 07-27-2007, 07:10 PM

You get a lot more than one try with Strongbox.
Exactly how many depends on factors such as if you're accessing through a proxy
and if so, what kind of proxy.

The back button thing shouldn't be an issue at all with any recent version of Strongbox,
even for that really crappy bug filled browser from 2001 that we have to put in all
kinds of hacks for, IE6.

The webmaster of the site can look at the Strongbox reports and see exactly
why someone didn't get in. Most commonly they just keep entering invalid
user names and passwords. There IP isn't blocked, they just never enter the
correct user / pass.

aico · 07-27-2007, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymor

You get a lot more than one try with Strongbox.
Exactly how many depends on factors such as if you're accessing through a proxy
and if so, what kind of proxy.

The back button thing shouldn't be an issue at all with any recent version of Strongbox,
even for that really crappy bug filled browser from 2001 that we have to put in all
kinds of hacks for, IE6.

The webmaster of the site can look at the Strongbox reports and see exactly
why someone didn't get in. Most commonly they just keep entering invalid
user names and passwords. There IP isn't blocked, they just never enter the
correct user / pass.

The back button is an issue. It loads the image in the cache from the previous attempt so it is not the correct image to match up with the script. I have had strongbox installed in the last 3 months, and the back button creates bad image log ins, so unless your newer version is after that, then it is an issue with your current version.

Penny24Seven · 07-27-2007, 07:29 PM

my strongbox report shows 100's of typos when the member tries to login, they fuck it up a lot typing with one hand haha

Jamie · 07-27-2007, 10:23 PM

I was using Strongbox and Ray offers great support.

But eventually we moved to a in house Geoip login system, We built a much better system and I honestly believe Geoip tracking is the way to go.

We had issues with SB, one user was considerd "good" by SB, yet he had logged in from Australia, Germany and the U.S. That was the last straw and we moved to a Geoip solution... it fixed our shared PW issues...

raymor · 07-30-2007, 03:22 PM

Well it seems that at least one browser has changed it's behavior and now isn't even
consistent, acting differently on each page load. Strongbox, Gmail, Google maps,
and a thousand other applications have just recently been updated to handle the new
inconsistencies. To update your Strongbox site, add the following to the BODY tag
of sblogin/badlogin.shtml:

Code:

onUnLoad="location.replace(document.referrer)

So the whole body tag will look something like:

Code:

<BODY LINK="#FF0000" VLINK="#FF0000" bgcolor="#ffffff"  text="#000000" onUnLoad="location.replace(document.referrer)">

07-26-2007, 04:13 PM	#1
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Could this be a Strongbox issue? Maybe i'm wrong and i wouldn't have noticed it if it didnt happen to me twice in a row. It sure looks like sites that use Strongbox protection lock your ip if you enter your login / password wrong just 1 time. If you try again and enter it correctly you won't get in anymore. I guess untill someone manually clears your ip. Once again i might be wrong here but this happened twice in a row to me.

07-26-2007, 04:16 PM	#2
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07-26-2007, 04:17 PM	#3
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07-26-2007, 04:17 PM	#4
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07-26-2007, 04:19 PM	#6
FANTASTIC Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Fantastic Posts: 45	Fantastic info franck! __________________ .

07-26-2007, 04:19 PM	#5
Azlord Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: City... City of Satan Posts: 2,651	Are you hitting the back button when you put in the wrong username or are you clicking the link to go back to the login page.

07-26-2007, 04:20 PM	#7
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Btw, not bashing them or anything. Im actually considering using them. Azlord, i really dont remember. I think i tried both.

07-26-2007, 04:21 PM	#8
BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	I know that's the case with ProxyPass, but it's also set to 3 times and then the 4th you are locked. It might be the IP you are trying to enter from also. If you are trying to access the site from a bad IP that is on their abuse list that might explain it. Probably not though because if you were you probably would not even see the login box and get redirected the first try. Maybe they have the settings set for only 1 incorrect login. Does it reset after a certain amount of time?

07-26-2007, 04:31 PM	#9
ER!C L!VE Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: WORLDW!DE Posts: 724	I've had the same issue. The way I've found to fix that issue is to close all windows, relaunch firefox or internet explorer and try again. I like strongbox/throttlebox - excellent products. __________________ www.BackroomCastingCouch.com www.ExploitedCollegeGirls.com www.FCUKCash.com

07-26-2007, 04:39 PM	#10
Blue Player So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 679	Proxy Pass rocks. I had it installed 3 years ago and I have to say it makes my life so much easier. It has saved me thousands.

07-26-2007, 05:23 PM	#13
aico Moo Moo Cow Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington State Posts: 14,748	Does not lock you after 1 failed attempt. But, if you do fail, and you hit the back button to try again, it will not load the new Text Image, but instead the cached one from your previous attempt, so you will fail again as the image will not match up.

07-26-2007, 05:34 PM	#14
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Yes, that could be the problem. As i said im not sure what exactly i did but its certainly an option.

07-26-2007, 06:12 PM	#15
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07-26-2007, 06:32 PM	#16
zand_stein Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,438	I know that if you press the back button on the browser it fucks up. So make sure you click the link to go back. ....... __________________ Paying Affiliates DAILY by ePassporte!

07-27-2007, 12:02 PM	#17
gmr324 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,199	I represent Phantom Frog which uses Geo-IP Tracking to track password abuse. There is a limit on the number of failed login attempts from the same IP and it is configurable by the webmaster. Our Geo-IP Tracking is the only one which tracks all visits to your members area down to the city level and longitude and latitude. Frog detects the fact that the same password was used in L.A. and NYC. We pinpoint the abuse instantly, allowingfor the possibility of legitimate travel. The advantage of this approach is that it puts less emphasis on the number of failed login attempts and more emphasis on the location of the login. The second way we make life simple for webmasters is through Automated Member Support. So, if this abuse/sharing happens while you're sleeping or away, your legitimate paying member can have a fresh new password re-issued to them via email. As a result, the paying member is not blocked out of your website and isn't looking to cancel their membership. Our product is integrated with CCBill, NetBilling, Paycom, NATS, MPA3, Verotel, 2000Charge, SegPay, Jettis, and 365Billing. We have excellent webmaster testimonials listed on our site. We have been in business for over 4 years and have very satisfied webmasters who have been with us that entire time and counting. Phantom Frog has a simple FREE Trial Version which installs in 5 minutes. Please feel free to contact me with any questions or feedback. Most of customers were motivated to purchase our password protection only 3 days after installing the Trial version! Visit this link to learn more or to request a FREE Trial: http://www.PhantomFrog.com/g Thanks George Email: [email protected] ICQ: 226948212 Last edited by gmr324; 07-27-2007 at 12:05 PM..

07-27-2007, 12:04 PM	#18
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Thanks. I will buy a copy one of these days.

07-27-2007, 07:10 PM	#20
raymor Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,745	You get a lot more than one try with Strongbox. Exactly how many depends on factors such as if you're accessing through a proxy and if so, what kind of proxy. The back button thing shouldn't be an issue at all with any recent version of Strongbox, even for that really crappy bug filled browser from 2001 that we have to put in all kinds of hacks for, IE6. The webmaster of the site can look at the Strongbox reports and see exactly why someone didn't get in. Most commonly they just keep entering invalid user names and passwords. There IP isn't blocked, they just never enter the correct user / pass. __________________ For historical display only. This information is not current: support@bettercgi.com ICQ 7208627 Strongbox - The next generation in site security Throttlebox - The next generation in bandwidth control Clonebox - Backup and disaster recovery on steroids Last edited by raymor; 07-27-2007 at 07:12 PM..

07-27-2007, 07:29 PM	#22
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07-27-2007, 10:23 PM	#23
Jamie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: CelebPay.com Posts: 2,517	I was using Strongbox and Ray offers great support. But eventually we moved to a in house Geoip login system, We built a much better system and I honestly believe Geoip tracking is the way to go. We had issues with SB, one user was considerd "good" by SB, yet he had logged in from Australia, Germany and the U.S. That was the last straw and we moved to a Geoip solution... it fixed our shared PW issues... __________________ CelebPay: Promote Celebrity Reviews i/c/q - :1851935

07-30-2007, 03:22 PM	#24
raymor Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,745	Well it seems that at least one browser has changed it's behavior and now isn't even consistent, acting differently on each page load. Strongbox, Gmail, Google maps, and a thousand other applications have just recently been updated to handle the new inconsistencies. To update your Strongbox site, add the following to the BODY tag of sblogin/badlogin.shtml: Code: onUnLoad="location.replace(document.referrer) So the whole body tag will look something like: Code: <BODY LINK="#FF0000" VLINK="#FF0000" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" onUnLoad="location.replace(document.referrer)"> __________________ For historical display only. This information is not current: support@bettercgi.com ICQ 7208627 Strongbox - The next generation in site security Throttlebox - The next generation in bandwidth control Clonebox - Backup and disaster recovery on steroids