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Dirty F 07-26-2007 04:13 PM

Could this be a Strongbox issue?
 
Maybe i'm wrong and i wouldn't have noticed it if it didnt happen to me twice in a row.

It sure looks like sites that use Strongbox protection lock your ip if you enter your login / password wrong just 1 time.

If you try again and enter it correctly you won't get in anymore. I guess untill someone manually clears your ip.

Once again i might be wrong here but this happened twice in a row to me.

Anna_O 07-26-2007 04:16 PM

You have more than one try with strongbox. Not sure exactly how many, but at least three. Don't know if you can change that setting though...

FakeNick 07-26-2007 04:17 PM

its because you were caught sharing your password

jerzeemedia 07-26-2007 04:17 PM

If you hit up Ray he's always really thorough and helpful.

Azlord 07-26-2007 04:19 PM

Are you hitting the back button when you put in the wrong username or are you clicking the link to go back to the login page.

FANTASTIC 07-26-2007 04:19 PM

Fantastic info franck!

Dirty F 07-26-2007 04:20 PM

Btw, not bashing them or anything. Im actually considering using them.

Azlord, i really dont remember. I think i tried both.

BV 07-26-2007 04:21 PM

I know that's the case with ProxyPass, but it's also set to 3 times and then the 4th you are locked.

It might be the IP you are trying to enter from also. If you are trying to access the site from a bad IP that is on their abuse list that might explain it. Probably not though because if you were you probably would not even see the login box and get redirected the first try.

Maybe they have the settings set for only 1 incorrect login.

Does it reset after a certain amount of time?

ER!C L!VE 07-26-2007 04:31 PM

I've had the same issue. The way I've found to fix that issue is to close all windows, relaunch firefox or internet explorer and try again. :thumbsup

I like strongbox/throttlebox - excellent products.

Blue Player 07-26-2007 04:39 PM

Proxy Pass rocks. I had it installed 3 years ago and I have to say it makes my life so much easier. It has saved me thousands.

Azlord 07-26-2007 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 12824962)
Btw, not bashing them or anything. Im actually considering using them.

Azlord, i really dont remember. I think i tried both.

I know that if you press the back button on the browser it fucks up. So make sure you click the link to go back. If you have tried a few times and have been unsucessful then you were block based on too many login attempts.

hope it helps

Dennis69 07-26-2007 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azlord (Post 12825167)
I know that if you press the back button on the browser it fucks up. So make sure you click the link to go back. If you have tried a few times and have been unsucessful then you were block based on too many login attempts.

hope it helps

Yeah thats the problem because I was just hitting back and it blocked me so I got in touch with Ray to find out why

aico 07-26-2007 05:23 PM

Does not lock you after 1 failed attempt. But, if you do fail, and you hit the back button to try again, it will not load the new Text Image, but instead the cached one from your previous attempt, so you will fail again as the image will not match up.

Dirty F 07-26-2007 05:34 PM

Yes, that could be the problem. As i said im not sure what exactly i did but its certainly an option.

Axeman 07-26-2007 06:12 PM

Huge fan of Strongbox myself. But never had anyone locked out after just one attempt.

zand_stein 07-26-2007 06:32 PM

I know that if you press the back button on the browser it fucks up. So make sure you click the link to go back. .......

gmr324 07-27-2007 12:02 PM

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Dirty F 07-27-2007 12:04 PM

Thanks. I will buy a copy one of these days.

gmr324 07-27-2007 12:34 PM

Quote:

Thanks. I will buy a copy one of these days.
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Thanks

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ICQ: 226948212

raymor 07-27-2007 07:10 PM

You get a lot more than one try with Strongbox.
Exactly how many depends on factors such as if you're accessing through a proxy
and if so, what kind of proxy.

The back button thing shouldn't be an issue at all with any recent version of Strongbox,
even for that really crappy bug filled browser from 2001 that we have to put in all
kinds of hacks for, IE6.

The webmaster of the site can look at the Strongbox reports and see exactly
why someone didn't get in. Most commonly they just keep entering invalid
user names and passwords. There IP isn't blocked, they just never enter the
correct user / pass.

aico 07-27-2007 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymor (Post 12834009)
You get a lot more than one try with Strongbox.
Exactly how many depends on factors such as if you're accessing through a proxy
and if so, what kind of proxy.

The back button thing shouldn't be an issue at all with any recent version of Strongbox,
even for that really crappy bug filled browser from 2001 that we have to put in all
kinds of hacks for, IE6.

The webmaster of the site can look at the Strongbox reports and see exactly
why someone didn't get in. Most commonly they just keep entering invalid
user names and passwords. There IP isn't blocked, they just never enter the
correct user / pass.


The back button is an issue. It loads the image in the cache from the previous attempt so it is not the correct image to match up with the script. I have had strongbox installed in the last 3 months, and the back button creates bad image log ins, so unless your newer version is after that, then it is an issue with your current version.

Penny24Seven 07-27-2007 07:29 PM

my strongbox report shows 100's of typos when the member tries to login, they fuck it up a lot typing with one hand haha

Jamie 07-27-2007 10:23 PM

I was using Strongbox and Ray offers great support.

But eventually we moved to a in house Geoip login system, We built a much better system and I honestly believe Geoip tracking is the way to go.

We had issues with SB, one user was considerd "good" by SB, yet he had logged in from Australia, Germany and the U.S. That was the last straw and we moved to a Geoip solution... it fixed our shared PW issues...

raymor 07-30-2007 03:22 PM

Well it seems that at least one browser has changed it's behavior and now isn't even
consistent, acting differently on each page load. Strongbox, Gmail, Google maps,
and a thousand other applications have just recently been updated to handle the new
inconsistencies. To update your Strongbox site, add the following to the BODY tag
of sblogin/badlogin.shtml:
Code:

onUnLoad="location.replace(document.referrer)
So the whole body tag will look something like:
Code:

<BODY LINK="#FF0000" VLINK="#FF0000" bgcolor="#ffffff"  text="#000000" onUnLoad="location.replace(document.referrer)">


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