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Just got home a few minutes ago. I picked up my shit at his desired time, yet I still have no money. Not $1250 not $2000 not shit. I gave him the money around the 15th of July and it was through the bank on 7/23/02. He took that money that I gave him on 7/23/02 for shoots and spent it on vacation. That right there in my opinion is shady and I will never do business with a content producer that spends deposit money I give them for shoots on vacation. Please if you are a content provider and you do this please post a warning so that I wont use you. He then approached me several weeks ago that he would need the remaining $3000 before he could start shooting cause he didnt have any cash to pay the models. I did not feel that it was a good business decision to give someone $3000 more dollars when aaron admittedly didnt have the $2000 deposit any longer and he didnt have any shoots done either. At this point we agreed that it was a misunderstanding and agreed to do 1 of 2 things. Have him shoot 4 shoots instead of 10 or return the deposit money. He then took the give me 4 shoots of content route as he said he didnt have the $2000 and it would be easier for him just to do the shoots. When asked when I copuld expect these to be worked on , he said 'soon'. A week later I called to check in on how the shoots were going and he informed me that he wasnt going to do the shoots and that he was just going to give me the deposit back. At that point we discussed some payment plans and it was left that he had 0 money and didnt know when he could give me any. There were then a few others conversations about money, etc. but the same result was I will get it to you when I have it. On Wednesday the 4th , I made another call to Aaron on his business number and was told that 'he didnt wanna discuss this any further' and then was hung up on. I then made the decision to post on a board that I know he reads, I had been given the 'I dunno when I can return your deposit' excuse for several weeks before the original post on the 4th. It was explained in my original post on the matter which was magically deleted after a phone conversation with aaron threatening me to watch my mouth cause he can have that thread deleted whenever he wants to. He chose to have the thread deleted which I think was pretty lame considering it did hold alot of the background info on this issue. I know aaron persoannly as we live fairly close and I have met him for lunch/dinner on several occasions, Iam not just some dude that ordered content out of the blue and this is not a new situation... it has been developing over several months. One long night and a ton of off topic dodge replies by aaron and we got to the point of me 'being able to pick up my equipment' from aarons house at his convenince. I was apparently some flake that didnt really want my equipment back or some shit, it was made clear by aaron that I prolly would show .... whatever. I have had the same intention from post #1 on this issue, I cant say the same for aaron. I simply want my equipment returned and my deposit money returned for I guess what you could call a shoot gone bad. I think that allowing 2 weeks to refund a deposit is plenty of time, and I was even willing to work with a date of sep the 10th )since iam going to shoot the content that was never shot in cali on the morning of the 13th). I was even more than willing to give $750 to aaron for his 'efforts' even though I dont agree and think its pretty shady for a content producer to take $750 for scheduling effort. I went and picked up my shit today at the time I was 'scheduled' for. At the point of me picking up my shit, aaron threatened to sue me if I dont shut the fuck up about this. Well you know what aaron? Suck my big fat cock I could care less about your attorney. You already told me that you have no fuckin money..... how in the hell are you going to hire a lawyer to sue me? Also I have sour news for ya buddy, slander would imply that there were lies being told. As far as I can tell you havent showed proof that ANY of the things I have said are not true. You may have fuckin moderator friends and shit on this board but frankly I dont give a fuck. Iam not going away man........ Now is the time that you start saying 'I never said that' about what we discussed when I picked up my equipment. Go ahead aaron , but even after picking up my equipment I still wanna know where my money is. Dont fuckin tell me its not my business what you spend my depoist money on cause I aint fuckin havin it anymore.

Fuck thats so fuckin long

Rory

Since everyone is posting, I'll post too.

who thinks Rory has Aaron hacked up in the truck of his car?

Think he would fit?

boneprone :

ICQ me please when ya get a chance : 5220296

thx

Now this is the most epic flame war I've seen in a LONG time! I need popcorn...

*YAWN* good morning... :)

:1orglaugh This shit is to funny!!!!

Paragraph breaks make my dick hard.

Agreed. :thumbsup

Its not over.

Stay Tuned for PT II

You think that the fact that you dont have the money to pay back a clients deposit or any shoots to show foir it is funny? Fuck man I know you have a decent rep. but how much of this funny shit are you gonna pull? What if this was your money aaron? Would it still be funny???

Gee, how did I know that you would flip this shit around and then say that? I was considering being nice and giving you the money prior to your trip but since you are STILL being a cock...I will stick with our ORIGINAL agreement (you know, the one made about 2 months ago) of September 15th.

FYI... TSB managed to record the last few seconds of you threatening me before I told you to to get out of here.

Who wants to see the EXCLUSIVE footage????!!!!!!

HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would not have fucked my content producer over in the first place. Problem solved.

I am done with you now. You may go.

Do you know what an ignore list is?

Ya for some reason the fact that a company that I gave a deposit to for shoots spent it and then has no money to replace a deposit isnt funny to me? I gave you a deposit for shoots.... you did no shoots..... you are fuckin broke and dont have the money to repay me. You had to call a client that you are doing shoots for currently to ask if he could give you the money faster in front of me. The fact that you dont agree that asking for an advance from client #2 in order to pay back a deposit for shoots you never did for client #1 is a crummy way to do business is beyond me. PLease explain that to me or at least answer the : Pay the fuck up or explain to me what my deposit money was spent for?

Rory

Sounds pretty good. Only half the story, but still should be pretty good... play on.

Please ONCE A MOTHERFUCKIN GAIN, explain to me how me giving you $2000 on 7/23/02 and then not agreeing to give you $3000 more in August when you informed me at that time that you no longer had my deposit or any shoots, then giving you several weeks to get my money back or at least make a payment attempt or something is fucking you over? I thought you had said that you had to pay the girls $750 , but since you had my $2k you didnt pay them shit I DID. So where is my fucking change you slimy fat crook.

Really, where do you come up with this shit? Please tell me more so I can log other BS statements from you.

You are not a very bright fella are ya?

Aaron I ask you 1 question..... Do you want me to post the audio of the entire event? I know there were a few things said that you may not want to have public and I respect that... but quit fuckin threating and pay me the motherfuckin money you owe me. Is that hard ? You have had several weeks already and you still havent returned my deposit. Bring your lawyer you shit talkin message board character. You are nothing but a lonely fat kid that really wants to feel like a pimp , let that go man and pay up your financial responsibilitries

Rory

Post the footage!

I have you on tape saying that your fucking broke and you cant afford to pay me. Do you want me to post the fuckin whole tape??????????? Back up your fuckin claims with some evidence you fat fuck, and tell your fuckin attorney to call me you slimy fuck.

Rory

You have audio? Of the whole meeting? Oh my...

Chill with the name calling bro.

Can anyone tell me the best way to get audio from those little tiny audio tapes into a digital format? Iam not an audio guy , but apparently Aaron forgot some of the things he said during our little meeting. I have the tape and the little player things - whats the best way to get it digital? I dont have a mic on my pc but I guess I could go buy one....

Rory

Ya , just frustrated. Sorry for those comments ... just been at this for too many hours now and still cannot get an answer to my question.

Rory

oooh, audio and some video. yeah, post it! mp3 and realplayer format plz (i know, but i can't play wmv here. :( )

I think you might be advised to look under Rory's car, don't think Aaron would fit in the boot:-)))

LMFAO... And you are calling me unprofessional?

Get a life.

DAMN...Forgot to add him to the ignore list. I want to...but this is just too damn much fun.

I especially like the part about me calling a client to ask for an advance to pay my depts. My sides are hurting from laughing so hard.

TSB and I are gonna go get some grub now...Then I am going to upgrade my suite in Vegas to the next level up in expense and THEN I am going to call a stripper friend of mine and have her come over for a booty call to celebrate.

Peace

Aaron

Post your footage of me that proves that Iam lieing about this shit. Fuckin post whatever ya got man. I dunno why you would wanna post footage of me asking you not to tell me what I can and cannot post on what boards, but since you brought it up you better fuckin post it now. I will post the unedited audio tape of the entire conversation (including me carrying that heavy shit to my car and grunting and stuff) with your permission. I understand that there were some things said on there in regards to your financial situation, etc. that you expressed concern about me posting about. I will not post the shit without your permission cause i did tell you that I wouldnt. However much I fuckin think your a slime though I will stand up to my word and not post it unless you tell me otherwise. I will however offer to boneprone if he wants to buy me bk to let him here the tape and post that it is valid witjout haing to post the things that you said. Lemme know what you would like to do.

Rory

Not so soon master. You need to learn more patience when dealing with the young Jedi.

(The above words are writting in family code. If you can not decipher them, they were not meant for you.)

Like I said to aaron, I did give aaron my word that I wouldnt post about some of the issues that were said during the meeting (per his request). Iam not going to fuckin break my word that I gave that slimeball , but I will gladly post the entire audio session if Aaron would like to 'prove his innocence'. You make the call Aaron? Iam I bluffing about having audio ? Dunno thats a gamble you will have to make yourself man.

Just wanna make sure about this too: you stick to the story that you never picked up your cel phone and called a client telling him Rory was here and you were woindering when he could get the money to you so rory would get paid? Just fuckin pick your side of the fence right now aaron and fuckin hope your right.

Rory

And boneprone I would stil like you to icq me at 5220296 please. I would like to meet at BK and let you see foir yourself if iam bluffing or not? Deal?

rory, you can use headphones in your microphone jack as a mic.

Do you remember all of the times I accused you of twisting facts to fiction? Yes, I picked up the cell and called a client but I NEVER asked for an advance on anything to pay you. The fact is that I did the shoot yesterday, as I stated in this thread, since this client is somebody that I implicitly trust......soooo....once again your version is not accurate.


Did you have a micro cassette recorder? Hell if I know, but what was said here was between you and me.

Im looking for a mic now... really dont wanna have to go buy one... o check this out though aaron.... a fuckin receipt from staples at around 12 oclock this afternoon. Wonder what that is for.... wait what is this a scan of?

http://www.newoutbreakmedia.com/ishebluffing.jpg

Is that right? Hmm o shit maybe he isnt bluffing.... start panicing now....

Are you sure you wanna stick to the below comment here mr mathews? :

Do you remember all of the times I accused you of twisting facts to fiction? Yes, I picked up the cell and called a client but I NEVER asked for an advance on anything to pay you. The fact is that I did the shoot yesterday, as I stated in this thread, since this client is somebody that I implicitly trust......soooo....once again your version is not accurate. ??

Say the word man, if you are innocent let these poeple hear the tape....


Rory

ahahaha

O btw why dont you people call staples (form the number on the receipt) and talk to the manager and ask him if he remebers a bif goofy white guy fumbling around there today asking about recorders that will fit in his pocket. Hmm lets try it.....

I wanna see this tape now just to see if Rory is bluffing, regardless of the receipt. Damn, the world turns...

This is still going?

GFY rocks

110% price match guarentee baby!! Prolly funniest $29.99 I have ever spent. You still wanna pursue this angle aaron??

We need somebody to make a resumat of these long threads.
It's so danm hard to read them all

sly.. icq me at 5220296 and I will send you my office number and I will let you listen to it.... I guess I did give my word that I wouldnt post it, but a friendly phone conversation with a fellow webmaster prolly cant hurt much can it?

Rory

LOL... Nice touch. You are almost slick enough to join the family.

Now the questions are:

1: Will you post the unedited audio without my concent?

2: Will you edit it and post it without my consent?

3: Who can make a better fake tape.

4: Why did you not think of recording our prior conversations so that you would have all of the info straight from day 1?

webmaster bumfights in action!! I love it!!

Me as well.
Nice.

Yum.

:xomunch

What is wrong with this statement? I called my client and explained the situation and asked about a rough date for payment on a shoot that was performed yesterday...yet you claim that I was asking for an advance.

How is this not accurate info?