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Old 09-05-2002, 04:28 AM   #201
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damn. This guy posts like a champ!
Still standing!
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Thanks I appreciate the encouragment.Never did I come to this board to ruin Aarons reputation and never did I unprovokably attempt to intimidate him. I simply feel that he was dodging me for several weeks about returning the money and after he refused to discuss it on the phone I felt I had no choice but to bring it to a place that he reads. Sorry for the brief disturbance.... Iam sure everyone will forget about this in a few days anyhow.
Forget about it in a few days? Not likely.

Had you bothered to show up when you said that you would then all of the details would have been sorted out. Are you able to keep your word about anything? In this business your word is everything. We had a verbal contract (verbal= based on your and my words) you breeched that contract. I however will stick to the dates agreed upon and give you $1250 (per your request) on Sept. 15th.

Why is this not reasonable?
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Aaron let me remind you that you just lobbyed for the fact that you told me to come pick it up at 6pm tonight. Just thought you may wanna remember that. But fuck its 4am now so that was a long time ago
And? Do you intend to make any sense tonight?
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his will is strong.... but will his fingers hold out....
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you heard him aaron.
he said step up to the "fuckin mic"

time to test out the equipment.
Get it on film.
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Step the fuck up or shut up man :

Either pay the fuck up or admit that you spent the money on other stuff
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Where the hell is TSB during all this.
Go wake his ass up. The sun is coming up soon.
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you heard him aaron.
he said step up to the "fuckin mic"

time to test out the equipment.
Get it on film.
it's driving me crazy - i must see the equipment.
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The sun is coming up soon.
christ! you're right...

damn..... I got guests coming in the morning that I gotta entertain here... fuck....

I hate leaving the theatre mid-show.
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it's driving me crazy - i must see the equipment.
I will shoot some pics for you when I get my equip back

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Ok you got me ...... just tell me 1 lie that I made on this board that you can backup with something other than well I had my phoen transferred to my roommmate.
More than I care to list so here are just a couple...

1: You claimed I threatened to sue you over copyright when in fact I simply said that you had not returned your license to me but were using the content.

2: You said that we did not agree on 100% payment prior to delivery.

You also twisted many other things but since you only wanted one and I have given you 2....I am not in the mood to research the rest of your lies.
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Aaron once again you are going to need to explain to me how Iam fucking you over (which to your admission cost $750) (which leabves you with $1250 of my money) by letting you hold $1250 of my money for 2 months.... How the fuck are you gonna dodge this question???
Your an idiot, review my prior replies then check yourself into a cozy rubber room.
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Aaron. Can you just damn take a pic of the equipment and either you or TSP using it.

Geeeeeeeze.
The masses are calling you out
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was there to be a mechanical bull involved in this shoot?
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If you can come up with a non dodgy fuckin reply Iam going to bed.

Rory

You already got it...a couple of times. Good night. See you in a few hours.....yeah......right.
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More than I care to list so here are just a couple...

1: You claimed I threatened to sue you over copyright when in fact I simply said that you had not returned your license to me but were using the content.

2: You said that we did not agree on 100% payment prior to delivery.

You also twisted many other things but since you only wanted one and I have given you 2....I am not in the mood to research the rest of your lies.
Once again I will call BS on #1 there and back it up with proof.

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Why does Aaron not wanna deal with the money issue in public? If he is a straight shooter than I think its time to start shootin. I just need the money that I paid him in advance for shoots that never happened. Simple as that.

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Because, unlike you, I deal like a professional. None of this is a public issue.

You want my public answer? You got it. Let me do the math....

2+ weeks of waiting and canceling shoots. I cancelled 5 shoots total and paid a $150 kill fee for each shoot. That's $750

Now lets add in the time spent sitting here waiting for you to return calls and emails as well as waiting for you to be here at 11am then calling at 7pm and saying you would be by the next day.

That totals 8 hours. I can shoot 4 exclusive sets in about an hour. 4x8 =32 sets times $450 per set = $14,400

$14,400 + $750 = $15,150 Lets subtract the original $2000 and run with $13,150. Now...Me being the nice guy that I am....I will charge you .25 on the dollar....That totals $3287.50....So, come pick up your shit, cut me a check and the deal is complete. I will not worry about the plethora of other times that you have inconvenienced me or the fact that you are in violation of my copyright since you have failed to returned a single license agreement. How many thousands of images at $750 per image PLUS legal costs......... Petty? Yep, it is but so is this entire thread. You wanna try to attack me publicly then you can deal with the aftermath. I have no reason to cut you any slack at this point.

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Ah, the phone rings...Now who hangs up on who?


I am done with responding to this thread. Come get your shit and bring my check TONIGHT.
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I will not worry about the plethora of other times that you have inconvenienced me or the fact that you are in violation of my copyright since you have failed to returned a single license agreement. How many thousands of images at $750 per image PLUS legal costs......... Petty?
not implying you are going to sue me for not returning the copyright shit of content I bought from you staright up you are fucking bullshitting. Its right there ... remember that post you had your fuckin buddy delete?

in regards to #2 I have no written proof that I can scan and post as the agreement was verbal. But I will bring up once again that if you are indeed collecting an up front deposit of half on 100% before you shoot anything deals than you are a fucking embezzeling crook.

You still wanna dodge some more????
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Your an idiot, review my prior replies then check yourself into a cozy rubber room.
Grow a sack aaron and at least fuckin own up to the fact that ya fuckin screwed me. I have no money and no shoots. You can dodge and say you already answered by why the reluctance to answer 1 simple fuckin question? Step the fuck up and be a man and deal with this situation as opposed to dodging.
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I will shoot some pics for you when I get my equip back

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I think they want to see the pics this month.
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definitely gotta be the record for using the term 'dodge' on a messageboard.
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I think they want to see the pics this month.
Quit fucking posting about different issues and fucking answeer the question please......


Either pay the fuck up or admit that you spent the money you recieved for a deposit for shoots on other shit
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damn im fucking sleepy.
Can we continue this tomorrow when we wake up.

Guys, someone contact me so i can come film this shit tomorrow
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You still wanna dodge some more????
Sure... I have nothing better to do...


How can saying:

"I will not worry about the plethora of other times....."

Be considered a threat? I mentioned facts...something that seem to escape you. This was not a threat. threat would be if I had said "I am going to sue you for copyright violation." Since this was never done... you have twisted the facts and are therefore a liar.

Check and mate.

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Quit fucking posting about different issues and fucking answeer the question please......


Either pay the fuck up or admit that you spent the money you recieved for a deposit for shoots on other shit

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Sure... I have nothing better to do...


How can saying:

"I will not worry about the plethora of other times....."

Be considered a threat? I mentioned facts...something that seem to escape you. This was not a threat. threat would be if I had said "I am going to sue you for copyright violation." Since this was never done... you have twisted the facts and are therefore a liar.

Check and mate.

Goodnight all.
I sure hope that was a joke cause that was pretty lame for a 'well I got you' retort, honestly man. This is the entire quote :
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The reason the beggining was left in was to retain the context of the statements. The threatening part starts around the err I dunno the you are in violation of my copyright since you have failed to returned a single license agreement. How many thousands of images at $750 per image PLUS legal costs......... Petty? part. If you wanna argue the fact of whether that was a 'threat' or not is a different story. Didnt we already actually discuss this particular quote once before. That thread you said that you were just kidding about the threat. Shall I go find that link as well aaron?

Ok here is the question once again.... with no twisted facts (correct me if iam wrong) :

Either pay the fuck up or admit that you spent the money you recieved as a deposit for shoots on other shit

Is that twisted????
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Lemme repeat that for you aaron : in its own post so it isnt twisted with anything :

Either pay the fuck up or admit that you spent the money you recieved for a deposit for shoots on other shit
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Rory if i had the extra 2K i would give it to you to end this thread!
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Well fuck fellas... Iam bout outta juice. Need sleep. Iam not going to just shut the fuck up and go away just because aaronM has more moderator friends on this board. Seriously I appreciate those who have sympathized with my frustration. I apologize for posting so god damn much and using the word dodge alot but this is 100% a serious and real life issue. I just think that if Iam out $2k I at least deserver an answer to this :

Either pay the fuck up or admit that you spent the money you recieved as a deposit for shoots on other shit

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I think I am going to change my sig to this:

"Either pay the fuck up or admit that you spent the money you recieved as a deposit for shoots on other shit "

Kinda catchy ain't it?
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i like it.
But what are you gunna do with this guys 750.00?
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If you arent getting your date on reduced payment why not take the full $2,000 back on the 15th, like Aaron offered in another thread?? Why take a $750 hit? Im with boneprone on that..

But this is GFY and who knows what happens next. Is this all Wizzo and tied into the dissappearing thread?

So many fake posts, so many real posts.. shit I think I need Paxil now!

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i like it.
But what are you gunna do with this guys 750.00?
Thinking about taking you and BP out to lunch.
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good night everyone.

This has been a BP4L presentation.

More tomorrow
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If you arent getting your date on reduced payment why not take the full $2,000 back on the 15th, like Aaron offered in another thread?? Why take a $750 hit? Im with boneprone on that..

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Because he cost me $750 cash money. Not to mention all of the time lost on him.
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I asked you several times to keep personal comments away from this business issue. I never have attempted to intimidate you, but you better be damn sure if you fuckin say the shit that you are saying on this board you will get a reaction.

This looks like a threat of violence, and er intimidation? No?
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I sure hope that you have the balls to say that little shit to me tom. boss. Leave your fuckin guns at home and fuckin say that shit to my face if that is how you feel. Iam not a violent person but I have no problem if you wanna be this cute little fuck to my face, I will beat your ass.
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Old 09-05-2002, 09:42 AM   #244
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Washing the hair -- that's a good one!
I am need take a crap
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Old 09-05-2002, 09:57 AM   #245
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This looks like a threat of violence, and er intimidation? No? ...

Doesn't look like a threat or intimidation to us. Normal human reaction.

Insofar as a deposit, I think that the depositer had no legal right to tell the person that received the deposit what he/she can spend it on. BUT, if the reason for the deposit is not forthcoming it is due and refundable immediately, UNLESS there is a clause *in* writing that specifically addresses this issue.. stating specifically that there are NO refunds.

Of course, small claims is where you address this issue and even in the case of a written agreement including the clause, the judge may find a reason to refund part or all of the deposit.

Take it off the boards kiddies and either refund the monies and give the equipment back or take it to small claims and deal with it. You'll find no answers here. Anyone taking your side now will only take the other side the next time you have a problem with an associate.

Could you get an autographed Judge Marilyn pic from Peoples Court for us to frame and hang?
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Old 09-05-2002, 10:06 AM   #246
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Excuse me? You wanna talk about my fuckin medical conditions now ..... alright public I have a fuckin anxiety issue that I take paxil for. What in the fuck does that have to do with this thread?
Hahahahahahahahaha...dude I was totally on your side until I read this.
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Old 09-05-2002, 10:08 AM   #247
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Jesus...for a second I thought you were talking about good ol' Bulletin Board Systems in the bygone days of pre-internet modeming.

Anyone here used to run a BBS? Now that was fun shit...
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Old 09-05-2002, 10:11 AM   #248
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Because he cost me $750 cash money. Not to mention all of the time lost on him.
Aaron I just think that your story is full of holes. Can you answer me why if this deal was on a 100% til you shoot basis then why in the hell would you have scheduled 5 shoots that Iam paying a fucking $750 fee to cover? If you were honest in this whole situation wouldnt you think that if you werent going to start shooting until you recieved 100% , you wouldnt have scheduled all these shoots that you had to pay a 'killl fee' for until you hadc the 100% payment. I fuckin smell some bullshit here on your part aaron, maybe you feel like explaining your way out of that?

I dont care how many times you would like to make threats about how you are super mighty powerful and all your clients are icqing you saying im an idiot. I dont care Iam a little guy and I got screwed here by a 'powerful' board personality, and Iam not going to just go away until you explain the reason to all of your potrential clients why you have acted this way to a client that has done several thousands of dollars worth of business with you. Please just come out and answer this fuckin question. Or are you too powerful to grace us little guys with an answer to this?

Either pay the fuck up or admit that you spent the money you recieved for a deposit for shoots on other shit

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Old 09-05-2002, 10:12 AM   #249
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This looks like a threat of violence, and er intimidation? No? ...

Doesn't look like a threat or intimidation to us. Normal human reaction.

Insofar as a deposit, I think that the depositer had no legal right to tell the person that received the deposit what he/she can spend it on. BUT, if the reason for the deposit is not forthcoming it is due and refundable immediately, UNLESS there is a clause *in* writing that specifically addresses this issue.. stating specifically that there are NO refunds.

Of course, small claims is where you address this issue and even in the case of a written agreement including the clause, the judge may find a reason to refund part or all of the deposit.

Take it off the boards kiddies and either refund the monies and give the equipment back or take it to small claims and deal with it. You'll find no answers here. Anyone taking your side now will only take the other side the next time you have a problem with an associate.

Could you get an autographed Judge Marilyn pic from Peoples Court for us to frame and hang?

SHe is one hot PUERTO RICAN!!
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Old 09-05-2002, 10:14 AM   #250
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Anyone taking your side now will only take the other side the next time you have a problem with an associate.
And THAT is why this bullshit does not concern me.


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