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Old 07-15-2007, 02:18 AM   #1
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How does the "middle class" survive in NYC?

Seriously? how do they do it? From the looks of things you're either homeless...or rich, with no in between.
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Old 07-15-2007, 02:24 AM   #2
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not much different than Whistler. either you have serious money, or you barely survive.
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Old 07-15-2007, 02:27 AM   #3
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Old 07-15-2007, 02:27 AM   #4
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Just like in SF, San Diego, Hawaii, etc.... 4 or 5 live in a studio apt. or make a weekly commute from 200 miles away...
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Old 07-15-2007, 02:30 AM   #5
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how would you define the middle class in NYC?

what salary range?
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Old 07-15-2007, 02:32 AM   #6
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I wouldn't define a salary range, but where do the people that work "normal" jobs live?
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Old 07-15-2007, 04:14 AM   #7
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I wouldn't define a salary range, but where do the people that work "normal" jobs live?
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Old 07-15-2007, 04:17 AM   #8
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People who make $10k/month will never understand how people who make $5k/month manage to survive.
People who make $5k/month will never understand how people who make $2k/month manage to survive.
People who make $2k/month will never understand how people who make $1k/month manage to survive.

The more you make, the higher priced lifestyle you live.... making it very difficult to imagine living with less money.
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Old 07-15-2007, 04:19 AM   #9
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Im kinda glad I dont live there..
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Old 07-15-2007, 07:36 AM   #10
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Old 07-15-2007, 07:45 AM   #11
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who cares they are middle class
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Old 07-15-2007, 07:58 AM   #12
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They all live in Queens or Jersey
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Old 07-15-2007, 08:04 AM   #13
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boroughs + rent control for the older people
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Old 07-15-2007, 08:08 AM   #14
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did someone say queen on a jersey

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Old 07-15-2007, 08:15 AM   #15
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majority of people in Manhattan live with room mates, they get a 1br apartment and convert the living room to a 2nd bedroom. So the rent of $2400 for that 1 bedroom is now $1200 each which most of these $40k to $60K can afford. The other option is the cities like Astoria Queens, 1br apartment is $1200 and the commute is 10 mins by subway to midtown Manhattan. Parts of brooklyn are the same rent and 20 mins by subway to lower manhattan....Its a rare occurence to find someone in 20s and even 30s if not married that lives alone. They are all rooming and converting living room to a bedroom to cut rent....

You do not need a car in NYC, for $2 subway ticket you can get anywhere ($76 for unlimited 30 day rides card).

Food is expensive to buy. Went running in central park yesterday, bottle of poland spring water was $4 from street vendor cart. Last year it was $3 : (
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Old 07-15-2007, 08:16 AM   #16
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oh, and you can get free WI-FI just about anywhere in city, so they save $40 a month right away...
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Old 07-15-2007, 08:17 AM   #17
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by the way, there really is no more rent control in manhattan. and there is a big battle now over stuyvesant town to end its rent stablization and force the "working class" out of that area so they can raise rents....
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Old 07-15-2007, 08:31 AM   #18
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Food is expensive to buy. Went running in central park yesterday, bottle of poland spring water was $4 from street vendor cart. Last year it was $3 : (
Must have been a big bottle? I swear I only paid $2 a couple weeks ago.
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Old 07-15-2007, 08:34 AM   #19
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People who make $10k/month will never understand how people who make $5k/month manage to survive.
People who make $5k/month will never understand how people who make $2k/month manage to survive.
People who make $2k/month will never understand how people who make $1k/month manage to survive.

The more you make, the higher priced lifestyle you live.... making it very difficult to imagine living with less money.
Exactly.

However I find that the people who make more money over time start to confuse the definitions of 'wants' versus 'need'.

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Old 07-15-2007, 09:29 AM   #20
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When I lived in NYC, I was a service at the time made about 50 grand a year. Myself and two other roomies lived in a three bedroom apt on 55th and broadway. The rent was 2800 a month this was 13 yrs ago.I took the smallest room so my rent was 600 a month. I loved it.

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Old 07-15-2007, 10:03 AM   #21
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Old 07-15-2007, 11:30 AM   #22
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Must have been a big bottle? I swear I only paid $2 a couple weeks ago.

sport bottle. right where you can rent the rowboats... $4
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