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How does the "middle class" survive in NYC?
Seriously? how do they do it? From the looks of things you're either homeless...or rich, with no in between.
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not much different than Whistler. either you have serious money, or you barely survive.
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prostitution and narcotics trafficking:2 cents:
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Just like in SF, San Diego, Hawaii, etc.... 4 or 5 live in a studio apt. or make a weekly commute from 200 miles away...
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how would you define the middle class in NYC?
what salary range? |
I wouldn't define a salary range, but where do the people that work "normal" jobs live?
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New Jersey
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People who make $10k/month will never understand how people who make $5k/month manage to survive.
People who make $5k/month will never understand how people who make $2k/month manage to survive. People who make $2k/month will never understand how people who make $1k/month manage to survive. The more you make, the higher priced lifestyle you live.... making it very difficult to imagine living with less money. |
Im kinda glad I dont live there..
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Rent Control
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who cares they are middle class
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They all live in Queens or Jersey:1orglaugh
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boroughs + rent control for the older people
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majority of people in Manhattan live with room mates, they get a 1br apartment and convert the living room to a 2nd bedroom. So the rent of $2400 for that 1 bedroom is now $1200 each which most of these $40k to $60K can afford. The other option is the cities like Astoria Queens, 1br apartment is $1200 and the commute is 10 mins by subway to midtown Manhattan. Parts of brooklyn are the same rent and 20 mins by subway to lower manhattan....Its a rare occurence to find someone in 20s and even 30s if not married that lives alone. They are all rooming and converting living room to a bedroom to cut rent....
You do not need a car in NYC, for $2 subway ticket you can get anywhere ($76 for unlimited 30 day rides card). Food is expensive to buy. Went running in central park yesterday, bottle of poland spring water was $4 from street vendor cart. Last year it was $3 : ( |
oh, and you can get free WI-FI just about anywhere in city, so they save $40 a month right away...
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by the way, there really is no more rent control in manhattan. and there is a big battle now over stuyvesant town to end its rent stablization and force the "working class" out of that area so they can raise rents....
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However I find that the people who make more money over time start to confuse the definitions of 'wants' versus 'need'. :2 cents: |
When I lived in NYC, I was a service at the time made about 50 grand a year. Myself and two other roomies lived in a three bedroom apt on 55th and broadway. The rent was 2800 a month this was 13 yrs ago.I took the smallest room so my rent was 600 a month. I loved it.
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I sell oranges on the street and newspapers for extra money
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sport bottle. right where you can rent the rowboats... $4 |
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