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Masterchief 07-15-2007 02:18 AM

How does the "middle class" survive in NYC?
 
Seriously? how do they do it? From the looks of things you're either homeless...or rich, with no in between.

quiet 07-15-2007 02:24 AM

not much different than Whistler. either you have serious money, or you barely survive.

BusterBunny 07-15-2007 02:27 AM

prostitution and narcotics trafficking:2 cents:

OG LennyT 07-15-2007 02:27 AM

Just like in SF, San Diego, Hawaii, etc.... 4 or 5 live in a studio apt. or make a weekly commute from 200 miles away...

polish_aristocrat 07-15-2007 02:30 AM

how would you define the middle class in NYC?

what salary range?

Masterchief 07-15-2007 02:32 AM

I wouldn't define a salary range, but where do the people that work "normal" jobs live?

The Judge 07-15-2007 04:14 AM

New Jersey

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masterchief (Post 12763731)
I wouldn't define a salary range, but where do the people that work "normal" jobs live?


StuartD 07-15-2007 04:17 AM

People who make $10k/month will never understand how people who make $5k/month manage to survive.
People who make $5k/month will never understand how people who make $2k/month manage to survive.
People who make $2k/month will never understand how people who make $1k/month manage to survive.

The more you make, the higher priced lifestyle you live.... making it very difficult to imagine living with less money.

Violetta 07-15-2007 04:19 AM

Im kinda glad I dont live there..

Snake Doctor 07-15-2007 07:36 AM

Rent Control

FakeNick 07-15-2007 07:45 AM

who cares they are middle class

spanky part 2 07-15-2007 07:58 AM

They all live in Queens or Jersey:1orglaugh

Monique Niccole 07-15-2007 08:04 AM

boroughs + rent control for the older people

FakeNick 07-15-2007 08:08 AM

did someone say queen on a jersey

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LilBro 07-15-2007 08:15 AM

majority of people in Manhattan live with room mates, they get a 1br apartment and convert the living room to a 2nd bedroom. So the rent of $2400 for that 1 bedroom is now $1200 each which most of these $40k to $60K can afford. The other option is the cities like Astoria Queens, 1br apartment is $1200 and the commute is 10 mins by subway to midtown Manhattan. Parts of brooklyn are the same rent and 20 mins by subway to lower manhattan....Its a rare occurence to find someone in 20s and even 30s if not married that lives alone. They are all rooming and converting living room to a bedroom to cut rent....

You do not need a car in NYC, for $2 subway ticket you can get anywhere ($76 for unlimited 30 day rides card).

Food is expensive to buy. Went running in central park yesterday, bottle of poland spring water was $4 from street vendor cart. Last year it was $3 : (

LilBro 07-15-2007 08:16 AM

oh, and you can get free WI-FI just about anywhere in city, so they save $40 a month right away...

LilBro 07-15-2007 08:17 AM

by the way, there really is no more rent control in manhattan. and there is a big battle now over stuyvesant town to end its rent stablization and force the "working class" out of that area so they can raise rents....

sacX 07-15-2007 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by LilBro (Post 12764728)
Food is expensive to buy. Went running in central park yesterday, bottle of poland spring water was $4 from street vendor cart. Last year it was $3 : (

Must have been a big bottle? I swear I only paid $2 a couple weeks ago.

Barefootsies 07-15-2007 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 12763932)
People who make $10k/month will never understand how people who make $5k/month manage to survive.
People who make $5k/month will never understand how people who make $2k/month manage to survive.
People who make $2k/month will never understand how people who make $1k/month manage to survive.

The more you make, the higher priced lifestyle you live.... making it very difficult to imagine living with less money.

Exactly.

However I find that the people who make more money over time start to confuse the definitions of 'wants' versus 'need'.

:2 cents:

tony286 07-15-2007 09:29 AM

When I lived in NYC, I was a service at the time made about 50 grand a year. Myself and two other roomies lived in a three bedroom apt on 55th and broadway. The rent was 2800 a month this was 13 yrs ago.I took the smallest room so my rent was 600 a month. I loved it.

Juicy D. Links 07-15-2007 10:03 AM

I sell oranges on the street and newspapers for extra money

LilBro 07-15-2007 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sacX (Post 12764776)
Must have been a big bottle? I swear I only paid $2 a couple weeks ago.


sport bottle. right where you can rent the rowboats... $4


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