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Old 07-01-2007, 09:37 AM   #1
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75' wifi tower at our building (PICS)

So I bought this industrial condo for my company (more pics to follow) and this week we erected a 75' wifi tower to communicate with the 100' tower at my house 10 miles away.

Where I live there are no high speed options so I made my own private link. I had this before but with a small antenna mast on the roof of my old leased space a few blocks away.

After the cement dried they had the tower up in just over an hour.



















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Sometimes you have to do what you have to do.

No groves of trees between home and work?
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What kind of speeds you getting at home now Brad? Ive seen this done in smaller distances and smaller towers like upto 3 or 4 miles. Thats pretty amazing stuff. Also are you using some sort of wep between the two to keep people off if?
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Sometimes you have to do what you have to do.

No groves of trees between home and work?

There are trees in between but my home is naturally 400' higher than my office. 802.11b is "near line of sight"

The 100' tower at home gets over the 60' trees I have here.

I had a signal with the office antenna 40' lower last week, now I just have much stronger signal (80%)
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What kind of speeds you getting at home now Brad? Ive seen this done in smaller distances and smaller towers like upto 3 or 4 miles. Thats pretty amazing stuff. Also are you using some sort of wep between the two to keep people off if?

I have 11 mb to the house and 10mb fibre at the office, I use WEP and mac adress filters to keep the link private.
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There are trees in between but my home is naturally 400' higher than my office. 802.11b is "near line of sight"

The 100' tower at home gets over the 60' trees I have here.

I had a signal with the office antenna 40' lower last week, now I just have much stronger signal (80%)
Cool.

When goodgirl lived in the sticks they tried everything, but could not get over the trees . . . but everything is so damn flat there.
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I have 11 mb to the house and 10mb fibre at the office, I use WEP and mac adress filters to keep the link private.
That's insane, I should do a scan and see if I pick it up here in Acton
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where do you live that you don't have strong service?
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where do you live that you don't have strong service?
Rural Ontario
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Thanks Brad,

It works really great. Everyone in Irvine finds it fast.
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Seems really easy when you look at the pics. Cool shit!
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No groves of trees between home and work?
i was wondering that too
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Very nice,I think we will see more and more of that.
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did you have to get a special license and approval to broadcast that distance of a signal?
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did ya have to get a permit? i know some locations require you can only have it so high
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Old 07-01-2007, 01:30 PM   #19
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No license is required for public wifi freqs (it's kinda like CB). The distance is not an issue for interference since it's a narrow beam point to point and not broadcast.

Air traffic permits are not required for towers under 120' and my town has no tower restrictions in my zone. One of the zoned uses of my unit can be a broadcast facility. I am in an industrial park so zoning laws are pretty wide open.
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that's quick now all you have to do it's to enjoy the high speed
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you should have gotten one of those that look like a palm tree.
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I use WEP and mac adress filters to keep the link private.
I wouldn't count on WEP and MAC Filters to keep things private. WEP is simple to crack and MAC spoofing has been around forever. Might want to look at WPA and Radius servers if you have anything on your network that you wouldn't want on the wrong hands, like Quickbook info or anything like that.
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lets see the one at your house.....doesnt it make your place look ugly as fuck?
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Thats pretty damn hardcore. How much does a tower cost? Is the latency still good enough to game?
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So whats the cost of a tower like that? What other technical things do you need or does that plug into your wireless router? lol
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NO, I have seen it, it does not ruin the look of the place. Congrats on the new place Brad
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Brad, look up WEP cracking on google. Wep is absolute junk and MAC address spoofing is easily done on your macs with the use of Kizmac. Look that up too and you won't want WEP, I guarantee it.
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Thats awesome. I helped a friend set up a link like that back in Iowa a couple years ago. It ended up working out really well. Just got ot make sure its encrypted. You never know who might be capturing packets in the the area passively along the way.
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Now that is some incredible ingenuity!

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What is it going to be like when it snows? What is the loss factor on that?
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I have a similar set up. But I can get damn near unlimited speeds.

What you should do, is become an ISP and make some extra money from it.
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What is it going to be like when it snows? What is the loss factor on that?
Last year I had 1 night of no svc when we had an ice storm, it works through rain, snow and just about anything else.
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So whats the cost of a tower like that? What other technical things do you need or does that plug into your wireless router? lol
The cost of the 75' tower was $4k installed. You would need outdoor wireless bridge equipment from senao or another manufacturer. Not to mention someone willing to climb up and point the dish thankfully my installers did that.
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The cost of the 75' tower was $4k installed. You would need outdoor wireless bridge equipment from senao or another manufacturer. Not to mention someone willing to climb up and point the dish thankfully my installers did that.
I,d hate to climb up on that thing, specially seeing as how windy it was this past weekend
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Brad, consider these two scenarios:

1) Someone wants free access so they crack your WEP encryption and spoof a MAC address to nick your wifi connection. You may or may not notice, but the end result probably isn't too significant (unless they're a super leech)

2) Someone wants to see your data, so they capture everything and crack your WEP encryption. Once WEP is cracked they can go back to the previously captured packets and view everything unencrypted. Because it's 100% passive the first you may know of this is when they actually do something with the data they've captured. This scenario could be far more damaging to your business and wellbeing in the long run.

WEP is junk, you need something far stronger.
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Brad, consider these two scenarios:

1) Someone wants free access so they crack your WEP encryption and spoof a MAC address to nick your wifi connection. You may or may not notice, but the end result probably isn't too significant (unless they're a super leech)

2) Someone wants to see your data, so they capture everything and crack your WEP encryption. Once WEP is cracked they can go back to the previously captured packets and view everything unencrypted. Because it's 100% passive the first you may know of this is when they actually do something with the data they've captured. This scenario could be far more damaging to your business and wellbeing in the long run.

WEP is junk, you need something far stronger.
Those scenarios are very possible yes. I know what you don't suggest I do but what do you suggest I do to stop this?
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I would upgrade the equipment you are using to get a more reliable system. We used Western Multiplex equipment and had really good results.
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