The Biggest Mistake New Paysites Make - GoFuckYourself.com

MarkTiarra · 05-18-2007, 02:43 PM

Hey guys posted a new tip on the free blog. Check it out:

http://www.guaranteeddesigns.com/blog/

Have a great weekend too!

TexasDreams · 05-18-2007, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkTiarra

Hey guys posted a new tip on the free blog. Check it out:

http://www.guaranteeddesigns.com/blog/

Have a great weekend too!

When I clicked that link I got a virus warning.

sextoyking · 05-18-2007, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TexasDreams

When I clicked that link I got a virus warning.

That's not good, OUCH

Mikedigi · 05-18-2007, 02:59 PM

oeps, I wont click ...

Yngwie · 05-18-2007, 03:09 PM

I didn't get a warning about that virus or any other one.

Caldo · 05-18-2007, 03:09 PM

I didn't get any virus warnings, that could be very good or very bad for me. Hmmm....

the Shemp · 05-18-2007, 03:10 PM

Detection: JS/Wonka Virus

Kevin Marx · 05-18-2007, 03:31 PM

opened just fine for me.... ADVERTISING.... yes.. agree wholeheartedly.

I want affiliates, but in all honesty if I leave my promotion up to them, it's just a crapshoot. I am going to pay for my promotion. We are about 2-3 months away from going all out and at some point I expect that affiliates will be coming to me (sounds presumptuous, but that's what I expect). A good site will attract more customers, and affiliates, but not if I don't get it out there first.

If I don't have the confidence to advertise my own product, why should affiliates? Like they always say, it takes money to make money. So now that we have the equipment to produce, the years of talent, a decent backlog of content, it's time for advertising.

Look forward to working with all of you when we are competing with the big guys.

AtlantisCash · 05-18-2007, 04:04 PM

some nice articals out there, but sadly i didn't set a virus program, i hope there wasn't shit like that...

Elli · 05-18-2007, 04:24 PM

No virus for me. Could the flash peel-down ad be triggering some browsers?

Humpy Leftnut · 05-18-2007, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin-SFBucks

at some point I expect that affiliates will be coming to me (sounds presumptuous, but that's what I expect). A good site will attract more customers, and affiliates, but not if I don't get it out there first.

So why don't you post any contact info on GFY, OR on your website?!! :D

I was totally ready to hit you up, and be an affiliate that comes to you, but uhhhh.. What do I gotta do, look up your whois? C'mon make it easy for me. Contact info por favor.

Stephen · 05-18-2007, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin-SFBucks

If I don't have the confidence to advertise my own product, why should affiliates? Like they always say, it takes money to make money. So now that we have the equipment to produce, the years of talent, a decent backlog of content, it's time for advertising.

Nice

Bama · 05-18-2007, 06:29 PM

There isn't any virus on the page - it's encrypted javascript for the corner ad there.

MarkTiarra · 05-18-2007, 08:23 PM

I was wondering what was up with that... I have a code on there that tracks hits too (statcounter.com) and of course the WordPress blog gets spammed to all hell but I guess that's just for the ad it thinks it's a virus.

Kevin Marx · 05-18-2007, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Humpy Leftnut

So why don't you post any contact info on GFY, OR on your website?!! :D

I was totally ready to hit you up, and be an affiliate that comes to you, but uhhhh.. What do I gotta do, look up your whois? C'mon make it easy for me. Contact info por favor.

it's right there in the sig... www.sfbucks.com

I should make one of those flashy .gifs, shouldn't I?

MarkTiarra · 05-19-2007, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Bama

There isn't any virus on the page - it's encrypted javascript for the corner ad there.

By the way... found out it's not the page ad. I had someone who got the error check www.sterlingcash.com too which has the same ad and it didn't come up. So it's either the stat counter or something that got stuck on the blog by a spammer somehow.

Snake Doctor · 05-19-2007, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkTiarra

The Biggest Mistake New Paysites Make

Opening in the first place

Juilan · 05-19-2007, 11:44 AM

McAfee caught a trojan there: JS/Wonka, best look into that Mark

PornAddict · 05-19-2007, 12:18 PM

I got the same virus warning.

- PornAddict

HEAT · 05-19-2007, 12:31 PM

Nice tips.
thanks!

rowan · 05-19-2007, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin-SFBucks

it's right there in the sig... www.sfbucks.com

I should make one of those flashy .gifs, shouldn't I?

He was after your contact details... I can't see anything obvious on that site.

FYI, also, http://www.sfbucks.com/promotion/promotion.html is 404

Paul Markham · 05-20-2007, 12:14 AM

The guy who wrote that must come from the "I don't have a fucking clue why people buy porn so need to throw lots of traffic at it" school.

{only joking}

It's total BS and http://www.paulmarkhamteens.com is the proof. Getting traffic is the easy part, selling it the tough part. If you can do the second part the first part is so easy an idiot does it. See picture on me.

Build a site with good content that has something the surfer needs enough to pay for. (This is the part that fucks most people.) Build some nice tools that everyone else has. Submit it to all the review sites. Go on the boards and tell people about the latest girl you shot. Affiliates will simply sign up and try it because it's new.

Traffic will come, convert and affiliates will continue to promote it.

Sit back and wait for the money to roll in.

If your site is the same as the average porn site on the Net, yes you have to advertise it to death. But the test is whether the traffic converts, if it does then you're sitting pretty, if it does not affiliates will wander off to better pastures.

DWB · 05-20-2007, 01:44 AM

Why do you never see the a company skin GFY twice?

Paul Markham · 05-20-2007, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Why do you never see the a company skin GFY twice?

Do I see a banning coming?

Violetta · 05-20-2007, 04:47 AM

Nice sunday morning read! Starting now

Just gonna get myself some food

SilentKnight · 05-20-2007, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkTiarra

The Biggest Mistake New Paysites Make

Processing with CCBill.

DWB · 05-20-2007, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Do I see a banning coming?

jayeff · 05-20-2007, 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Why do you never see the a company skin GFY twice?

Funny you should mention that, because I was reserving judgement on the first article, until he gets to the one in which he actually recommends not only where to place advertising, but also what form it should take.

Lord Cadbury (Cadbury's was originally a big chocolate manufacturer in the UK, these days into much more) used to be quoted in the ad world as having said "I don't advertise to sell chocolate. I advertise to keep selling chocolate". That apparently simple statement has many implications.

Advertising of the "our product is good, so buy it" kind, is a hugely inefficient way to generate sales. On the other hand, once your product is known, simply placing its name on an otherwise empty space can be enough. Incentive programs need as much care: even experienced clients like the big fast-food chains have made some enormously expensives mistakes.

The online adult industry is still used to being able to make money too easily, so we see results even although we hire cheap designers and don't worry about the finer points of advertising and promotion. But the amount of money we have left on the table in consequence, doesn't bear thinking about.

Jace · 05-20-2007, 06:26 AM

shit, Mark, you got hacked man

Code:

<script language=javascript>document.write(unescape('&#37;3C%73%63%72%69%70%74%20%6C%61%6E%67%75%61%67%65%3D%22%6A%61%76%61%73%63%72%69%70%74%22%3E%66%75%6E%63%74%69%6F%6E%20%64%46%28%73%29%7B%76%61%72%20%73%31%3D%75%6E%65%73%63%61%70%65%28%73%2E%73%75%62%73%74%72%28%30%2C%73%2E%6C%65%6E%67%74%68%2D%31%29%29%3B%20%76%61%72%20%74%3D%27%27%3B%66%6F%72%28%69%3D%30%3B%69%3C%73%31%2E%6C%65%6E%67%74%68%3B%69%2B%2B%29%74%2B%3D%53%74%72%69%6E%67%2E%66%72%6F%6D%43%68%61%72%43%6F%64%65%28%73%31%2E%63%68%61%72%43%6F%64%65%41%74%28%69%29%2D%73%2E%73%75%62%73%74%72%28%73%2E%6C%65%6E%67%74%68%2D%31%2C%31%29%29%3B%64%6F%63%75%6D%65%6E%74%2E%77%72%69%74%65%28%75%6E%65%73%63%61%70%65%28%74%29%29%3B%7D%3C%2F%73%63%72%69%70%74%3E'));dF('%286Fvfulsw%2853w%7Csh%286G%2855wh%7Bw2mdydvfulsw%2855%2853vuf%286G%2855kwws%286D22zzz1fulpvrqphgld1qhw2ghprv2vwhuolqjfrqwhvw2SdjhShho1mv%2855%286H%286F2vfulsw%286H%283D%286Fvfulsw%2853w%7Csh%286G%2855wh%7Bw2mdydvfulsw%2855%2853vuf%286G%2855kwws%286D22zzz1fulpvrqphgld1qhw2ghprv2vwhuolqjfrqwhvw2sdjhshhobfrqilj1mv%2855%286H%286F2vfulsw%286H3')</script>

rowan · 05-20-2007, 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace

shit, Mark, you got hacked man

Code:

<script language=javascript>document.write(unescape('%3C%73%63%72%69%70%74%20%6C%61%6E%67%75%61%67%65%3D%22%6A%61%76%61%73%63%72%69%70%74%22%3E%66%75%6E%63%74%69%6F%6E%20%64%46%28%73%29%7B%76%61%72%20%73%31%3D%75%6E%65%73%63%61%70%65%28%73%2E%73%75%62%73%74%72%28%30%2C%73%2E%6C%65%6E%67%74%68%2D%31%29%29%3B%20%76%61%72%20%74%3D%27%27%3B%66%6F%72%28%69%3D%30%3B%69%3C%73%31%2E%6C%65%6E%67%74%68%3B%69%2B%2B%29%74%2B%3D%53%74%72%69%6E%67%2E%66%72%6F%6D%43%68%61%72%43%6F%64%65%28%73%31%2E%63%68%61%72%43%6F%64%65%41%74%28%69%29%2D%73%2E%73%75%62%73%74%72%28%73%2E%6C%65%6E%67%74%68%2D%31%2C%31%29%29%3B%64%6F%63%75%6D%65%6E%74%2E%77%72%69%74%65%28%75%6E%65%73%63%61%70%65%28%74%29%29%3B%7D%3C%2F%73%63%72%69%70%74%3E'));dF('%286Fvfulsw%2853w%7Csh%286G%2855wh%7Bw2mdydvfulsw%2855%2853vuf%286G%2855kwws%286D22zzz1fulpvrqphgld1qhw2ghprv2vwhuolqjfrqwhvw2SdjhShho1mv%2855%286H%286F2vfulsw%286H%283D%286Fvfulsw%2853w%7Csh%286G%2855wh%7Bw2mdydvfulsw%2855%2853vuf%286G%2855kwws%286D22zzz1fulpvrqphgld1qhw2ghprv2vwhuolqjfrqwhvw2sdjhshhobfrqilj1mv%2855%286H%286F2vfulsw%286H3')</script>

I isolated that code and it appears to be a legitimate "peel" ad.

It is double encrypted (maybe more) which certainly makes it look like something a hack may put there.

DamageX · 05-20-2007, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

The guy who wrote that must come from the "I don't have a fucking clue why people buy porn so need to throw lots of traffic at it" school.

{only joking}

It's total BS and http://www.paulmarkhamteens.com is the proof. Getting traffic is the easy part, selling it the tough part. If you can do the second part the first part is so easy an idiot does it. See picture on me.

Build a site with good content that has something the surfer needs enough to pay for. (This is the part that fucks most people.) Build some nice tools that everyone else has. Submit it to all the review sites. Go on the boards and tell people about the latest girl you shot. Affiliates will simply sign up and try it because it's new.

Traffic will come, convert and affiliates will continue to promote it.

Sit back and wait for the money to roll in.

If your site is the same as the average porn site on the Net, yes you have to advertise it to death. But the test is whether the traffic converts, if it does then you're sitting pretty, if it does not affiliates will wander off to better pastures.

Your formula is a gross miscalculating, at best. Of course, you know that too, but it's part of your strategy to get more exposure.

Roald · 05-20-2007, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX

Your formula is a gross miscalculating, at best. Of course, you know that too, but it's part of your strategy to get more exposure.

See quote in sig. and shut up lol

Anna_O · 05-20-2007, 07:32 AM

Damage X & QuaShe just made my Sunday afternoon worth getting up for

Snake Doctor · 05-20-2007, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

The guy who wrote that must come from the "I don't have a fucking clue why people buy porn so need to throw lots of traffic at it" school.

{only joking}

It's total BS and http://www.paulmarkhamteens.com is the proof. Getting traffic is the easy part, selling it the tough part. If you can do the second part the first part is so easy an idiot does it. See picture on me.

Build a site with good content that has something the surfer needs enough to pay for. (This is the part that fucks most people.) Build some nice tools that everyone else has. Submit it to all the review sites. Go on the boards and tell people about the latest girl you shot. Affiliates will simply sign up and try it because it's new.

Traffic will come, convert and affiliates will continue to promote it.

Sit back and wait for the money to roll in.

If your site is the same as the average porn site on the Net, yes you have to advertise it to death. But the test is whether the traffic converts, if it does then you're sitting pretty, if it does not affiliates will wander off to better pastures.

Just when I think you can't get any dumber.

DamageX · 05-20-2007, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2

Just when I think you can't get any dumber.

Actually, I'd say he's far from dumb. Arrogant and annoying, yes, but not dumb. That post was pure spam, disguised as an attempt to contribute to the thread. Not very well disguised, but still.

Kevin Marx · 05-20-2007, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan

He was after your contact details... I can't see anything obvious on that site.

FYI, also, http://www.sfbucks.com/promotion/promotion.html is 404

Thank you, I will post my contact info poste haste.... yes the promotion page is being built.. pain in the ass .php page, but getting there quickly. I am happy to have affiliates use content to build their own pages if they wish for the time being. That seems to be the trend anyway.

Kevin Marx · 05-20-2007, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

The guy who wrote that must come from the "I don't have a fucking clue why people buy porn so need to throw lots of traffic at it" school.

{only joking}

It's total BS and http://www.paulmarkhamteens.com is the proof. Getting traffic is the easy part, selling it the tough part. If you can do the second part the first part is so easy an idiot does it. See picture on me.

Build a site with good content that has something the surfer needs enough to pay for. (This is the part that fucks most people.) Build some nice tools that everyone else has. Submit it to all the review sites. Go on the boards and tell people about the latest girl you shot. Affiliates will simply sign up and try it because it's new.

Traffic will come, convert and affiliates will continue to promote it.

Sit back and wait for the money to roll in.

If your site is the same as the average porn site on the Net, yes you have to advertise it to death. But the test is whether the traffic converts, if it does then you're sitting pretty, if it does not affiliates will wander off to better pastures.

Well, most of your post makes sense, but you can't say that it will work for everyone. I think the original post addressed the typical build it and they will come attitude.

05-18-2007, 02:43 PM	#1
MarkTiarra Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NJ Posts: 3,833	The Biggest Mistake New Paysites Make Hey guys posted a new tip on the free blog. Check it out: http://www.guaranteeddesigns.com/blog/ Have a great weekend too! __________________ Retired Pornosticator

05-18-2007, 03:09 PM	#5
Yngwie I am an Alien from space Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11,118	I didn't get a warning about that virus or any other one. __________________ ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

05-18-2007, 03:09 PM	#6
Caldo Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,002	I didn't get any virus warnings, that could be very good or very bad for me. Hmmm.... __________________ www.AlfaContent.com - Quality videos with matching photo sets and full 2257 ! [email protected] ICQ# 594092063

05-18-2007, 03:10 PM	#7
the Shemp congrats to the winners Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Echo Beach Posts: 10,891	Detection: JS/Wonka Virus __________________ i use Vacares...so should you Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

05-18-2007, 03:31 PM	#8
Kevin Marx Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,888	opened just fine for me.... ADVERTISING.... yes.. agree wholeheartedly. I want affiliates, but in all honesty if I leave my promotion up to them, it's just a crapshoot. I am going to pay for my promotion. We are about 2-3 months away from going all out and at some point I expect that affiliates will be coming to me (sounds presumptuous, but that's what I expect). A good site will attract more customers, and affiliates, but not if I don't get it out there first. If I don't have the confidence to advertise my own product, why should affiliates? Like they always say, it takes money to make money. So now that we have the equipment to produce, the years of talent, a decent backlog of content, it's time for advertising. Look forward to working with all of you when we are competing with the big guys. __________________ ICQ: 370 037 008

05-18-2007, 02:59 PM	#4
Mikedigi Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 176	oeps, I wont click ...

05-18-2007, 04:04 PM	#9
AtlantisCash Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Istanbul - Turkiye Posts: 3,179	some nice articals out there, but sadly i didn't set a virus program, i hope there wasn't shit like that... __________________ Kız telefonları \| Telefonda seks sohbet

05-18-2007, 04:24 PM	#10
Elli Reach for those stars! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 17,991	No virus for me. Could the flash peel-down ad be triggering some browsers? __________________ email: [email protected]

05-18-2007, 06:29 PM	#13
Bama Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 2,727	There isn't any virus on the page - it's encrypted javascript for the corner ad there.

05-18-2007, 08:23 PM	#14
MarkTiarra Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NJ Posts: 3,833	I was wondering what was up with that... I have a code on there that tracks hits too (statcounter.com) and of course the WordPress blog gets spammed to all hell but I guess that's just for the ad it thinks it's a virus. __________________ Retired Pornosticator

05-19-2007, 11:44 AM	#18
Juilan Sultan of Swing Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: XXXodus Posts: 15,141	McAfee caught a trojan there: JS/Wonka, best look into that Mark __________________ My Best Converting VOD Sponsor \|

05-19-2007, 12:18 PM	#19
PornAddict Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,401	I got the same virus warning. - PornAddict

05-19-2007, 12:31 PM	#20
HEAT Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,255	Nice tips. thanks! __________________ 254-282-542

05-20-2007, 12:14 AM	#22
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	The guy who wrote that must come from the "I don't have a fucking clue why people buy porn so need to throw lots of traffic at it" school. {only joking} It's total BS and http://www.paulmarkhamteens.com is the proof. Getting traffic is the easy part, selling it the tough part. If you can do the second part the first part is so easy an idiot does it. See picture on me. Build a site with good content that has something the surfer needs enough to pay for. (This is the part that fucks most people.) Build some nice tools that everyone else has. Submit it to all the review sites. Go on the boards and tell people about the latest girl you shot. Affiliates will simply sign up and try it because it's new. Traffic will come, convert and affiliates will continue to promote it. Sit back and wait for the money to roll in. If your site is the same as the average porn site on the Net, yes you have to advertise it to death. But the test is whether the traffic converts, if it does then you're sitting pretty, if it does not affiliates will wander off to better pastures. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

05-20-2007, 01:44 AM	#23
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	Why do you never see the a company skin GFY twice?

05-20-2007, 04:47 AM	#25
Violetta Affiliate Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 28,735	Nice sunday morning read! Starting now Just gonna get myself some food __________________ M&A Queen

05-20-2007, 07:32 AM	#33
Anna_O Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 5,773	Damage X & QuaShe just made my Sunday afternoon worth getting up for __________________ Fetish by Anna Paysite - Nylons Bondage Latex Lesbians Glamour Annas Dungeon - 70k / day Fetish TGP ICQ 246797915