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  • MarkTiarra
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2002
    • 3833

    #1

    The Biggest Mistake New Paysites Make

    Hey guys posted a new tip on the free blog. Check it out:

    http://www.guaranteeddesigns.com/blog/

    Have a great weekend too!

    Retired Pornosticator
  • TexasDreams
    former Miserable Admin :)
    • Oct 2003
    • 4700

    #2
    Originally posted by MarkTiarra
    Hey guys posted a new tip on the free blog. Check it out:

    http://www.guaranteeddesigns.com/blog/

    Have a great weekend too!
    When I clicked that link I got a virus warning.

    ICQ: 168-914-369 >>> sysop [at] TexasDreams [dot] com

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    • sextoyking
      Confirmed User
      • Dec 2001
      • 6034

      #3
      Originally posted by TexasDreams
      When I clicked that link I got a virus warning.


      That's not good, OUCH
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      • Mikedigi
        Confirmed User
        • Dec 2003
        • 176

        #4
        oeps, I wont click ...

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        • Yngwie
          I am an Alien from space
          • May 2003
          • 11118

          #5
          I didn't get a warning about that virus or any other one.
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          • Caldo
            Confirmed User
            • Apr 2007
            • 4003

            #6
            I didn't get any virus warnings, that could be very good or very bad for me. Hmmm....


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            • the Shemp
              congrats to the winners
              • Nov 2001
              • 10891

              #7
              Detection: JS/Wonka Virus
              i use Vacares...so should you
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              • Kevin Marx
                Confirmed User
                • Apr 2007
                • 1888

                #8
                opened just fine for me.... ADVERTISING.... yes.. agree wholeheartedly.

                I want affiliates, but in all honesty if I leave my promotion up to them, it's just a crapshoot. I am going to pay for my promotion. We are about 2-3 months away from going all out and at some point I expect that affiliates will be coming to me (sounds presumptuous, but that's what I expect). A good site will attract more customers, and affiliates, but not if I don't get it out there first.

                If I don't have the confidence to advertise my own product, why should affiliates? Like they always say, it takes money to make money. So now that we have the equipment to produce, the years of talent, a decent backlog of content, it's time for advertising.

                Look forward to working with all of you when we are competing with the big guys.
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                • AtlantisCash
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 3179

                  #9
                  some nice articals out there, but sadly i didn't set a virus program, i hope there wasn't shit like that...
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                  • Elli
                    Reach for those stars!
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 17991

                    #10
                    No virus for me. Could the flash peel-down ad be triggering some browsers?
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                    • Humpy Leftnut
                      Confirmed User
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 1292

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Kevin-SFBucks
                      at some point I expect that affiliates will be coming to me (sounds presumptuous, but that's what I expect). A good site will attract more customers, and affiliates, but not if I don't get it out there first.
                      So why don't you post any contact info on GFY, OR on your website?!! :D

                      I was totally ready to hit you up, and be an affiliate that comes to you, but uhhhh.. What do I gotta do, look up your whois? C'mon make it easy for me. Contact info por favor.
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                      • Stephen
                        Consigliere
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 1771

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Kevin-SFBucks
                        If I don't have the confidence to advertise my own product, why should affiliates? Like they always say, it takes money to make money. So now that we have the equipment to produce, the years of talent, a decent backlog of content, it's time for advertising.
                        Nice

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                        • Bama
                          Confirmed User
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 2727

                          #13
                          There isn't any virus on the page - it's encrypted javascript for the corner ad there.

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                          • MarkTiarra
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 3833

                            #14
                            I was wondering what was up with that... I have a code on there that tracks hits too (statcounter.com) and of course the WordPress blog gets spammed to all hell but I guess that's just for the ad it thinks it's a virus.

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                            • Kevin Marx
                              Confirmed User
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 1888

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Humpy Leftnut
                              So why don't you post any contact info on GFY, OR on your website?!! :D

                              I was totally ready to hit you up, and be an affiliate that comes to you, but uhhhh.. What do I gotta do, look up your whois? C'mon make it easy for me. Contact info por favor.
                              it's right there in the sig... www.sfbucks.com

                              I should make one of those flashy .gifs, shouldn't I?
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                              • MarkTiarra
                                Confirmed User
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 3833

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Bama
                                There isn't any virus on the page - it's encrypted javascript for the corner ad there.
                                By the way... found out it's not the page ad. I had someone who got the error check www.sterlingcash.com too which has the same ad and it didn't come up. So it's either the stat counter or something that got stuck on the blog by a spammer somehow.

                                Retired Pornosticator

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                                • Snake Doctor
                                  I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                  • Mar 2001
                                  • 13449

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by MarkTiarra
                                  The Biggest Mistake New Paysites Make
                                  Opening in the first place
                                  sig too big

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                                  • Juilan
                                    Sultan of Swing
                                    • Feb 2004
                                    • 15141

                                    #18
                                    McAfee caught a trojan there: JS/Wonka, best look into that Mark
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                                    • PornAddict
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Feb 2002
                                      • 1401

                                      #19
                                      I got the same virus warning.

                                      - PornAddict

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                                      • HEAT
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Sep 2003
                                        • 2255

                                        #20
                                        Nice tips.
                                        thanks!
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                                        • rowan
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Mar 2002
                                          • 17393

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Kevin-SFBucks
                                          it's right there in the sig... www.sfbucks.com

                                          I should make one of those flashy .gifs, shouldn't I?
                                          He was after your contact details... I can't see anything obvious on that site.

                                          FYI, also, http://www.sfbucks.com/promotion/promotion.html is 404

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                                          • Paul Markham
                                            Too old to care
                                            • Jun 2001
                                            • 52942

                                            #22
                                            The guy who wrote that must come from the "I don't have a fucking clue why people buy porn so need to throw lots of traffic at it" school. {only joking}

                                            It's total BS and http://www.paulmarkhamteens.com is the proof. Getting traffic is the easy part, selling it the tough part. If you can do the second part the first part is so easy an idiot does it. See picture on me.

                                            Build a site with good content that has something the surfer needs enough to pay for. (This is the part that fucks most people.) Build some nice tools that everyone else has. Submit it to all the review sites. Go on the boards and tell people about the latest girl you shot. Affiliates will simply sign up and try it because it's new.

                                            Traffic will come, convert and affiliates will continue to promote it.

                                            Sit back and wait for the money to roll in.

                                            If your site is the same as the average porn site on the Net, yes you have to advertise it to death. But the test is whether the traffic converts, if it does then you're sitting pretty, if it does not affiliates will wander off to better pastures.



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                                            • DWB
                                              Registered User
                                              • Jul 2003
                                              • 31779

                                              #23
                                              Why do you never see the a company skin GFY twice?

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                                              • Paul Markham
                                                Too old to care
                                                • Jun 2001
                                                • 52942

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                                Why do you never see the a company skin GFY twice?
                                                Do I see a banning coming?



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                                                • Violetta
                                                  Affiliate
                                                  • Jul 2004
                                                  • 28735

                                                  #25
                                                  Nice sunday morning read! Starting now Just gonna get myself some food
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                                                  • SilentKnight
                                                    Megan Fox's fluffer
                                                    • Oct 2005
                                                    • 24818

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by MarkTiarra
                                                    The Biggest Mistake New Paysites Make
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                                                    • DWB
                                                      Registered User
                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                      • 31779

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                      Do I see a banning coming?

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                                                      • jayeff
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • May 2001
                                                        • 2944

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                                        Why do you never see the a company skin GFY twice?
                                                        Funny you should mention that, because I was reserving judgement on the first article, until he gets to the one in which he actually recommends not only where to place advertising, but also what form it should take.

                                                        Lord Cadbury (Cadbury's was originally a big chocolate manufacturer in the UK, these days into much more) used to be quoted in the ad world as having said "I don't advertise to sell chocolate. I advertise to keep selling chocolate". That apparently simple statement has many implications.

                                                        Advertising of the "our product is good, so buy it" kind, is a hugely inefficient way to generate sales. On the other hand, once your product is known, simply placing its name on an otherwise empty space can be enough. Incentive programs need as much care: even experienced clients like the big fast-food chains have made some enormously expensives mistakes.

                                                        The online adult industry is still used to being able to make money too easily, so we see results even although we hire cheap designers and don't worry about the finer points of advertising and promotion. But the amount of money we have left on the table in consequence, doesn't bear thinking about.

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                                                        • Jace
                                                          FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                          • 35562

                                                          #29
                                                          shit, Mark, you got hacked man

                                                          Code:
                                                          <script language=javascript>document.write(unescape('&#37;3C%73%63%72%69%70%74%20%6C%61%6E%67%75%61%67%65%3D%22%6A%61%76%61%73%63%72%69%70%74%22%3E%66%75%6E%63%74%69%6F%6E%20%64%46%28%73%29%7B%76%61%72%20%73%31%3D%75%6E%65%73%63%61%70%65%28%73%2E%73%75%62%73%74%72%28%30%2C%73%2E%6C%65%6E%67%74%68%2D%31%29%29%3B%20%76%61%72%20%74%3D%27%27%3B%66%6F%72%28%69%3D%30%3B%69%3C%73%31%2E%6C%65%6E%67%74%68%3B%69%2B%2B%29%74%2B%3D%53%74%72%69%6E%67%2E%66%72%6F%6D%43%68%61%72%43%6F%64%65%28%73%31%2E%63%68%61%72%43%6F%64%65%41%74%28%69%29%2D%73%2E%73%75%62%73%74%72%28%73%2E%6C%65%6E%67%74%68%2D%31%2C%31%29%29%3B%64%6F%63%75%6D%65%6E%74%2E%77%72%69%74%65%28%75%6E%65%73%63%61%70%65%28%74%29%29%3B%7D%3C%2F%73%63%72%69%70%74%3E'));dF('%286Fvfulsw%2853w%7Csh%286G%2855wh%7Bw2mdydvfulsw%2855%2853vuf%286G%2855kwws%286D22zzz1fulpvrqphgld1qhw2ghprv2vwhuolqjfrqwhvw2SdjhShho1mv%2855%286H%286F2vfulsw%286H%283D%286Fvfulsw%2853w%7Csh%286G%2855wh%7Bw2mdydvfulsw%2855%2853vuf%286G%2855kwws%286D22zzz1fulpvrqphgld1qhw2ghprv2vwhuolqjfrqwhvw2sdjhshhobfrqilj1mv%2855%286H%286F2vfulsw%286H3')</script>

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                                                          • rowan
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Mar 2002
                                                            • 17393

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Jace
                                                            shit, Mark, you got hacked man

                                                            Code:
                                                            <script language=javascript>document.write(unescape('%3C%73%63%72%69%70%74%20%6C%61%6E%67%75%61%67%65%3D%22%6A%61%76%61%73%63%72%69%70%74%22%3E%66%75%6E%63%74%69%6F%6E%20%64%46%28%73%29%7B%76%61%72%20%73%31%3D%75%6E%65%73%63%61%70%65%28%73%2E%73%75%62%73%74%72%28%30%2C%73%2E%6C%65%6E%67%74%68%2D%31%29%29%3B%20%76%61%72%20%74%3D%27%27%3B%66%6F%72%28%69%3D%30%3B%69%3C%73%31%2E%6C%65%6E%67%74%68%3B%69%2B%2B%29%74%2B%3D%53%74%72%69%6E%67%2E%66%72%6F%6D%43%68%61%72%43%6F%64%65%28%73%31%2E%63%68%61%72%43%6F%64%65%41%74%28%69%29%2D%73%2E%73%75%62%73%74%72%28%73%2E%6C%65%6E%67%74%68%2D%31%2C%31%29%29%3B%64%6F%63%75%6D%65%6E%74%2E%77%72%69%74%65%28%75%6E%65%73%63%61%70%65%28%74%29%29%3B%7D%3C%2F%73%63%72%69%70%74%3E'));dF('%286Fvfulsw%2853w%7Csh%286G%2855wh%7Bw2mdydvfulsw%2855%2853vuf%286G%2855kwws%286D22zzz1fulpvrqphgld1qhw2ghprv2vwhuolqjfrqwhvw2SdjhShho1mv%2855%286H%286F2vfulsw%286H%283D%286Fvfulsw%2853w%7Csh%286G%2855wh%7Bw2mdydvfulsw%2855%2853vuf%286G%2855kwws%286D22zzz1fulpvrqphgld1qhw2ghprv2vwhuolqjfrqwhvw2sdjhshhobfrqilj1mv%2855%286H%286F2vfulsw%286H3')</script>
                                                            I isolated that code and it appears to be a legitimate "peel" ad.

                                                            It is double encrypted (maybe more) which certainly makes it look like something a hack may put there.

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                                                            • DamageX
                                                              Marketing & Strategy
                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                              • 14293

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                              The guy who wrote that must come from the "I don't have a fucking clue why people buy porn so need to throw lots of traffic at it" school. {only joking}

                                                              It's total BS and http://www.paulmarkhamteens.com is the proof. Getting traffic is the easy part, selling it the tough part. If you can do the second part the first part is so easy an idiot does it. See picture on me.

                                                              Build a site with good content that has something the surfer needs enough to pay for. (This is the part that fucks most people.) Build some nice tools that everyone else has. Submit it to all the review sites. Go on the boards and tell people about the latest girl you shot. Affiliates will simply sign up and try it because it's new.

                                                              Traffic will come, convert and affiliates will continue to promote it.

                                                              Sit back and wait for the money to roll in.

                                                              If your site is the same as the average porn site on the Net, yes you have to advertise it to death. But the test is whether the traffic converts, if it does then you're sitting pretty, if it does not affiliates will wander off to better pastures.
                                                              Your formula is a gross miscalculating, at best. Of course, you know that too, but it's part of your strategy to get more exposure.
                                                              Whitehat is for chumps

                                                              If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                              • Roald
                                                                SecretFriends.com
                                                                • May 2001
                                                                • 27910

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by DamageX
                                                                Your formula is a gross miscalculating, at best. Of course, you know that too, but it's part of your strategy to get more exposure.
                                                                See quote in sig. and shut up lol


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                                                                • Anna_O
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                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                  • 5773

                                                                  #33
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                                                                  • Snake Doctor
                                                                    I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                    • Mar 2001
                                                                    • 13449

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                    The guy who wrote that must come from the "I don't have a fucking clue why people buy porn so need to throw lots of traffic at it" school. {only joking}

                                                                    It's total BS and http://www.paulmarkhamteens.com is the proof. Getting traffic is the easy part, selling it the tough part. If you can do the second part the first part is so easy an idiot does it. See picture on me.

                                                                    Build a site with good content that has something the surfer needs enough to pay for. (This is the part that fucks most people.) Build some nice tools that everyone else has. Submit it to all the review sites. Go on the boards and tell people about the latest girl you shot. Affiliates will simply sign up and try it because it's new.

                                                                    Traffic will come, convert and affiliates will continue to promote it.

                                                                    Sit back and wait for the money to roll in.

                                                                    If your site is the same as the average porn site on the Net, yes you have to advertise it to death. But the test is whether the traffic converts, if it does then you're sitting pretty, if it does not affiliates will wander off to better pastures.
                                                                    Just when I think you can't get any dumber.
                                                                    sig too big

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                                                                    • DamageX
                                                                      Marketing & Strategy
                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                      • 14293

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Lenny2
                                                                      Just when I think you can't get any dumber.
                                                                      Actually, I'd say he's far from dumb. Arrogant and annoying, yes, but not dumb. That post was pure spam, disguised as an attempt to contribute to the thread. Not very well disguised, but still.
                                                                      Whitehat is for chumps

                                                                      If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                                      • Kevin Marx
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Apr 2007
                                                                        • 1888

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by rowan
                                                                        He was after your contact details... I can't see anything obvious on that site.

                                                                        FYI, also, http://www.sfbucks.com/promotion/promotion.html is 404
                                                                        Thank you, I will post my contact info poste haste.... yes the promotion page is being built.. pain in the ass .php page, but getting there quickly. I am happy to have affiliates use content to build their own pages if they wish for the time being. That seems to be the trend anyway.
                                                                        ICQ: 370 037 008

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                                                                        • Kevin Marx
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Apr 2007
                                                                          • 1888

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                          The guy who wrote that must come from the "I don't have a fucking clue why people buy porn so need to throw lots of traffic at it" school. {only joking}

                                                                          It's total BS and http://www.paulmarkhamteens.com is the proof. Getting traffic is the easy part, selling it the tough part. If you can do the second part the first part is so easy an idiot does it. See picture on me.

                                                                          Build a site with good content that has something the surfer needs enough to pay for. (This is the part that fucks most people.) Build some nice tools that everyone else has. Submit it to all the review sites. Go on the boards and tell people about the latest girl you shot. Affiliates will simply sign up and try it because it's new.

                                                                          Traffic will come, convert and affiliates will continue to promote it.

                                                                          Sit back and wait for the money to roll in.

                                                                          If your site is the same as the average porn site on the Net, yes you have to advertise it to death. But the test is whether the traffic converts, if it does then you're sitting pretty, if it does not affiliates will wander off to better pastures.
                                                                          Well, most of your post makes sense, but you can't say that it will work for everyone. I think the original post addressed the typical build it and they will come attitude.
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