Please tell me most Austrians are not this dumb - GoFuckYourself.com

baddog · 05-09-2007, 01:46 AM

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8OTLSUG0&show_article=1

VIENNA, Austria (AP) - In some ways, Hiasl is like any other Viennese: He indulges a weakness for pastry, likes to paint and enjoys chilling out watching TV.

But he doesn't care for coffee, and he isn't actually a person?at least not yet.

In a case that could set a global legal precedent for granting basic rights to apes, animal rights advocates are seeking to get the 26- year-old male chimpanzee legally declared a "person."

Hiasl's supporters argue he needs that status to become a legal entity that can receive donations and get a guardian to look out for his interests.

"Our main argument is that Hiasl is a person and has basic legal rights," said Eberhart Theuer, a lawyer leading the challenge on behalf of the Association Against Animal Factories, a Vienna animal rights group.

Bake · 05-09-2007, 01:54 AM

why do you change the font colour

bogo · 05-09-2007, 01:58 AM

Orange is too hard on the eyes and i cant even read it.

Sexsitesurfer · 05-09-2007, 02:00 AM

Yes, that kind of behaviour only happens in Austria, where it is common.

The Sultan Of Smut · 05-09-2007, 02:04 AM

"Please tell me most Austrians are not this dumb"

Corporations are persons here so who's dumber?

rapmaster · 05-09-2007, 02:04 AM

So if this chimp is declared a person, could he legally become the president of that country?

HAIL TO THE CHIMP!

rapmaster · 05-09-2007, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by The Sultan Of Smut

"Please tell me most Austrians are not this dumb"

Corporations are persons here so who's dumber?

hah that made me laugh... but hey, when's the last time you saw a chimp make a billion bucks a year?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 05-09-2007, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by rapmaster

So if this chimp is declared a person, could he legally become the president of that country?

HAIL TO THE CHIMP!

ADG

baddog · 05-09-2007, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by The Sultan Of Smut

"Please tell me most Austrians are not this dumb"

Corporations are persons here so who's dumber?

I have no idea what you are trying to say. Are you suggesting Canadians would do it if they had a monkey?

baddog · 05-09-2007, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bake

why do you change the font colour

In honor of XBiz Summer Forum

The Sultan Of Smut · 05-09-2007, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I have no idea what you are trying to say. Are you suggesting Canadians would do it if they had a monkey?

Na I'm just saying there's plenty of dumb to go around

P.S. Corporations are persons in the US as well.

baddog · 05-09-2007, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Sultan Of Smut

Na I'm just saying there's plenty of dumb to go around

P.S. Corporations are persons in the US as well.

No, corporations are not people. Individuals can incorporate, but that does not make the corporation a person, just the opposite.

And there is nothing dumb about doing that.

Barefootsies · 05-09-2007, 02:47 PM

Barefootsies · 05-09-2007, 02:48 PM

Chio · 05-09-2007, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

No, corporations are not people. Individuals can incorporate, but that does not make the corporation a person, just the opposite....

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A corporation is technically, a juristic person

So you're both right... and wrong (kinda).

baddog · 05-09-2007, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chio

So you're both right... and wrong (kinda).

A juristic person is an artificial entity through which the law allows a group of natural persons to act as if it were a single composite individual for certain purposes.

Kind of like a jury . . . which is probably where jury came from.

The Sultan Of Smut · 05-09-2007, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

No, corporations are not people. Individuals can incorporate, but that does not make the corporation a person, just the opposite.

And there is nothing dumb about doing that.

The point was that if it's dumb so extend rights granted to a person to an ape then I can't see how it's not also dumb to extend these same rights to a corporation.

"Corporations were established in constitutional law as 'persons' within the meaning of the 14th Amendment."

http://www.answers.com/topic/santa-c...cific-railroad

That article doesn't really discuss how the corporation is a jurisdictional person which is consisted of a group of natural persons so maybe there's a better article out there.

Chio · 05-09-2007, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

A juristic person is an artificial entity through which the law allows a group of natural persons to act as if it were a single composite individual for certain purposes.

Kind of like a jury . . . which is probably where jury came from.

The word jury comes from the French noun "jure" meaning an oath, judicial inquiry, or inquest.

Etymology is a hobby of mine.

baddog · 05-09-2007, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Sultan Of Smut

The point was that if it's dumb so extend rights granted to a person to an ape then I can't see how it's not also dumb to extend these same rights to a corporation.

Really? You don't see the difference? Are you Austrian by birth?

The Sultan Of Smut · 05-09-2007, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Really? You don't see the difference? Are you Austrian by birth?

No I'm not and the only thing I see is two example of applying rights granted to humans to two entities that are not. Can't you see that?

baddog · 05-10-2007, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by The Sultan Of Smut

No I'm not and the only thing I see is two example of applying rights granted to humans to two entities that are not. Can't you see that?

If you can't see the difference between granting a fucking monkey the status of a human, and determining that a corporation should speak as the voice of one person rather than the individual voices of all the stockholders, you have some serious issues.

I really hope you are kidding.

Gunni · 05-10-2007, 03:13 AM

can't they just make the ape a corporation and thus giving him the rights of a human?

gangbangjoe · 05-10-2007, 03:21 AM

again the old man is trying to bash every country to make the u.s.a look better

gangbangjoe · 05-10-2007, 03:25 AM

https://youtube.com/watch?v=IVBO-JoyNL4

please tell me baddog is like that

baddog · 05-10-2007, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by gangbangjoe

again the old man is trying to bash every country to make the u.s.a look better

Oh, you think a monkey should be given the same rights as a human?

rapmaster · 05-10-2007, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunni

can't they just make the ape a corporation and thus giving him the rights of a human?

but corporations DO NOT have all the rights of a human, even though they are considered persons...

but hey, a corporation has a lot to offer - all the chimp has to offer is flinging crap at people

baddog · 05-10-2007, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by rapmaster

but corporations DO NOT have all the rights of a human, even though they are considered persons...

but hey, a corporation has a lot to offer - all the chimp has to offer is flinging crap at people

I have a feeling it would be easier to convince your wall.

gangbangjoe · 05-10-2007, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Oh, you think a monkey should be given the same rights as a human?

i don't give an apeshit about that monkey (hahahahaha am i funny again today

)

just the fact that you had to blame it on a whole nation again makes me all fuzzy

rapmaster · 05-10-2007, 11:01 AM

look this monkey is smoking a joint

baddog · 05-10-2007, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by rapmaster

look this monkey is smoking a joint

And these monkeys are riding on bikes

I guess they should have human rights afterall.

gangbangjoe · 05-10-2007, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

And these monkeys are riding on bikes

I guess they should have human rights afterall.

if i were cruel i would say this is the "baddog-posse" cruising through the town

rapmaster · 05-10-2007, 11:09 AM

The monkeys riding on bikes are hilarious... mostly cause theres more monkeys riding bikes in the background... as if it's something they do all the time, not just set up for the shot. lol

royaljelly2 · 05-10-2007, 11:16 AM

LOL what's next? The chimp will run for government? mannnnnn....

carol.prime · 05-10-2007, 12:59 PM

not really..they are just a liitle bit of dumb which is the same as others..

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