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baddog 05-09-2007 01:46 AM
Please tell me most Austrians are not this dumb
 
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8OTLSUG0&show_article=1

VIENNA, Austria (AP) - In some ways, Hiasl is like any other Viennese: He indulges a weakness for pastry, likes to paint and enjoys chilling out watching TV.

But he doesn't care for coffee, and he isn't actually a person?at least not yet.

In a case that could set a global legal precedent for granting basic rights to apes, animal rights advocates are seeking to get the 26- year-old male chimpanzee legally declared a "person."

Hiasl's supporters argue he needs that status to become a legal entity that can receive donations and get a guardian to look out for his interests.

"Our main argument is that Hiasl is a person and has basic legal rights," said Eberhart Theuer, a lawyer leading the challenge on behalf of the Association Against Animal Factories, a Vienna animal rights group.

Bake 05-09-2007 01:54 AM
why do you change the font colour

bogo 05-09-2007 01:58 AM
Orange is too hard on the eyes and i cant even read it.

Sexsitesurfer 05-09-2007 02:00 AM
Yes, that kind of behaviour only happens in Austria, where it is common.

The Sultan Of Smut 05-09-2007 02:04 AM
"Please tell me most Austrians are not this dumb"

Corporations are persons here so who's dumber?

rapmaster 05-09-2007 02:04 AM
So if this chimp is declared a person, could he legally become the president of that country?


HAIL TO THE CHIMP!

rapmaster 05-09-2007 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by The Sultan Of Smut (Post 12396436)
"Please tell me most Austrians are not this dumb"

Corporations are persons here so who's dumber?
hah that made me laugh... but hey, when's the last time you saw a chimp make a billion bucks a year?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 05-09-2007 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by rapmaster (Post 12396437)
So if this chimp is declared a person, could he legally become the president of that country?


HAIL TO THE CHIMP!
http://images.hunsa.com/funny/MOJO%2...or_chimp-2.jpg

ADG

baddog 05-09-2007 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by The Sultan Of Smut (Post 12396436)
"Please tell me most Austrians are not this dumb"

Corporations are persons here so who's dumber?
I have no idea what you are trying to say. Are you suggesting Canadians would do it if they had a monkey?

baddog 05-09-2007 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Bake (Post 12396422)
why do you change the font colour
In honor of XBiz Summer Forum

The Sultan Of Smut 05-09-2007 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12396465)
I have no idea what you are trying to say. Are you suggesting Canadians would do it if they had a monkey?
Na I'm just saying there's plenty of dumb to go around :)

P.S. Corporations are persons in the US as well.

baddog 05-09-2007 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by The Sultan Of Smut (Post 12399307)
Na I'm just saying there's plenty of dumb to go around :)

P.S. Corporations are persons in the US as well.
No, corporations are not people. Individuals can incorporate, but that does not make the corporation a person, just the opposite.

And there is nothing dumb about doing that.

Barefootsies 05-09-2007 02:47 PM

Barefootsies 05-09-2007 02:48 PM

Chio 05-09-2007 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12399722)
No, corporations are not people. Individuals can incorporate, but that does not make the corporation a person, just the opposite....
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A corporation is technically, a juristic person
So you're both right... and wrong (kinda). :1orglaugh

baddog 05-09-2007 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Chio (Post 12399886)
So you're both right... and wrong (kinda). :1orglaugh
A juristic person is an artificial entity through which the law allows a group of natural persons to act as if it were a single composite individual for certain purposes.

Kind of like a jury . . . which is probably where jury came from.

The Sultan Of Smut 05-09-2007 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12399722)
No, corporations are not people. Individuals can incorporate, but that does not make the corporation a person, just the opposite.

And there is nothing dumb about doing that.
The point was that if it's dumb so extend rights granted to a person to an ape then I can't see how it's not also dumb to extend these same rights to a corporation.

"Corporations were established in constitutional law as 'persons' within the meaning of the 14th Amendment."

http://www.answers.com/topic/santa-c...cific-railroad

That article doesn't really discuss how the corporation is a jurisdictional person which is consisted of a group of natural persons so maybe there's a better article out there.

Chio 05-09-2007 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12399917)
A juristic person is an artificial entity through which the law allows a group of natural persons to act as if it were a single composite individual for certain purposes.

Kind of like a jury . . . which is probably where jury came from.
The word jury comes from the French noun "jure" meaning an oath, judicial inquiry, or inquest.

Etymology is a hobby of mine.

baddog 05-09-2007 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by The Sultan Of Smut (Post 12400060)
The point was that if it's dumb so extend rights granted to a person to an ape then I can't see how it's not also dumb to extend these same rights to a corporation.
Really? You don't see the difference? Are you Austrian by birth?

The Sultan Of Smut 05-09-2007 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12400084)
Really? You don't see the difference? Are you Austrian by birth?
No I'm not and the only thing I see is two example of applying rights granted to humans to two entities that are not. Can't you see that?

baddog 05-10-2007 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by The Sultan Of Smut (Post 12400180)
No I'm not and the only thing I see is two example of applying rights granted to humans to two entities that are not. Can't you see that?
If you can't see the difference between granting a fucking monkey the status of a human, and determining that a corporation should speak as the voice of one person rather than the individual voices of all the stockholders, you have some serious issues.

I really hope you are kidding.

Gunni 05-10-2007 03:13 AM
can't they just make the ape a corporation and thus giving him the rights of a human?

gangbangjoe 05-10-2007 03:21 AM
again the old man is trying to bash every country to make the u.s.a look better :1orglaugh

gangbangjoe 05-10-2007 03:25 AM
https://youtube.com/watch?v=IVBO-JoyNL4

please tell me baddog is like that :1orglaugh

baddog 05-10-2007 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by gangbangjoe (Post 12402562)
again the old man is trying to bash every country to make the u.s.a look better :1orglaugh
Oh, you think a monkey should be given the same rights as a human?

rapmaster 05-10-2007 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunni (Post 12402545)
can't they just make the ape a corporation and thus giving him the rights of a human?
but corporations DO NOT have all the rights of a human, even though they are considered persons...


but hey, a corporation has a lot to offer - all the chimp has to offer is flinging crap at people

baddog 05-10-2007 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by rapmaster (Post 12404125)
but corporations DO NOT have all the rights of a human, even though they are considered persons...


but hey, a corporation has a lot to offer - all the chimp has to offer is flinging crap at people
I have a feeling it would be easier to convince your wall.

gangbangjoe 05-10-2007 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12404107)
Oh, you think a monkey should be given the same rights as a human?
i don't give an apeshit about that monkey (hahahahaha am i funny again today :1orglaugh)

just the fact that you had to blame it on a whole nation again makes me all fuzzy:pimp

rapmaster 05-10-2007 11:01 AM
http://www.yallaclip.com/data/img/monkey-smoke.jpg

look this monkey is smoking a joint:pimp

baddog 05-10-2007 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by rapmaster (Post 12404182)
http://www.yallaclip.com/data/img/monkey-smoke.jpg

look this monkey is smoking a joint:pimp
And these monkeys are riding on bikes

http://spacemonkeypants.com/img/monkeybikes.jpg

I guess they should have human rights afterall.

gangbangjoe 05-10-2007 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12404202)
And these monkeys are riding on bikes

http://spacemonkeypants.com/img/monkeybikes.jpg

I guess they should have human rights afterall.
if i were cruel i would say this is the "baddog-posse" cruising through the town :1orglaugh

rapmaster 05-10-2007 11:09 AM
The monkeys riding on bikes are hilarious... mostly cause theres more monkeys riding bikes in the background... as if it's something they do all the time, not just set up for the shot. lol

royaljelly2 05-10-2007 11:16 AM
LOL what's next? The chimp will run for government? mannnnnn....

carol.prime 05-10-2007 12:59 PM
not really..they are just a liitle bit of dumb which is the same as others..


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