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  • baddog
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    • Apr 2001
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    Please tell me most Austrians are not this dumb

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8OTLSUG0&show_article=1

    VIENNA, Austria (AP) - In some ways, Hiasl is like any other Viennese: He indulges a weakness for pastry, likes to paint and enjoys chilling out watching TV.

    But he doesn't care for coffee, and he isn't actually a person?at least not yet.

    In a case that could set a global legal precedent for granting basic rights to apes, animal rights advocates are seeking to get the 26- year-old male chimpanzee legally declared a "person."

    Hiasl's supporters argue he needs that status to become a legal entity that can receive donations and get a guardian to look out for his interests.

    "Our main argument is that Hiasl is a person and has basic legal rights," said Eberhart Theuer, a lawyer leading the challenge on behalf of the Association Against Animal Factories, a Vienna animal rights group.
  • Bake
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    • Jan 2001
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    #2
    why do you change the font colour
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    • bogo
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      #3
      Orange is too hard on the eyes and i cant even read it.

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      • Sexsitesurfer
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        Yes, that kind of behaviour only happens in Austria, where it is common.
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        • The Sultan Of Smut
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          • Dec 2004
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          #5
          "Please tell me most Austrians are not this dumb"

          Corporations are persons here so who's dumber?

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          • rapmaster
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            • Jan 2007
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            #6
            So if this chimp is declared a person, could he legally become the president of that country?


            HAIL TO THE CHIMP!
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_Sauer_P226

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            • rapmaster
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              • Jan 2007
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              #7
              Originally posted by The Sultan Of Smut
              "Please tell me most Austrians are not this dumb"

              Corporations are persons here so who's dumber?
              hah that made me laugh... but hey, when's the last time you saw a chimp make a billion bucks a year?
              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_Sauer_P226

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              • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
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                • Jul 2004
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                #8
                Originally posted by rapmaster
                So if this chimp is declared a person, could he legally become the president of that country?


                HAIL TO THE CHIMP!


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                • baddog
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                  • Apr 2001
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by The Sultan Of Smut
                  "Please tell me most Austrians are not this dumb"

                  Corporations are persons here so who's dumber?
                  I have no idea what you are trying to say. Are you suggesting Canadians would do it if they had a monkey?

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                  • baddog
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                    • Apr 2001
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Bake
                    why do you change the font colour
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                    • The Sultan Of Smut
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by baddog
                      I have no idea what you are trying to say. Are you suggesting Canadians would do it if they had a monkey?
                      Na I'm just saying there's plenty of dumb to go around

                      P.S. Corporations are persons in the US as well.

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                      • baddog
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                        • Apr 2001
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by The Sultan Of Smut
                        Na I'm just saying there's plenty of dumb to go around

                        P.S. Corporations are persons in the US as well.
                        No, corporations are not people. Individuals can incorporate, but that does not make the corporation a person, just the opposite.

                        And there is nothing dumb about doing that.

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                        • Barefootsies
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                          • Feb 2005
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                          • Barefootsies
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                            #14
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                            Enough Said.

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                            • Chio
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                              • Oct 2002
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by baddog
                              No, corporations are not people. Individuals can incorporate, but that does not make the corporation a person, just the opposite....
                              A corporation is technically, a juristic person
                              So you're both right... and wrong (kinda).

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                              • baddog
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                                • Apr 2001
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Chio
                                So you're both right... and wrong (kinda).
                                A juristic person is an artificial entity through which the law allows a group of natural persons to act as if it were a single composite individual for certain purposes.

                                Kind of like a jury . . . which is probably where jury came from.

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                                • The Sultan Of Smut
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                  No, corporations are not people. Individuals can incorporate, but that does not make the corporation a person, just the opposite.

                                  And there is nothing dumb about doing that.
                                  The point was that if it's dumb so extend rights granted to a person to an ape then I can't see how it's not also dumb to extend these same rights to a corporation.

                                  "Corporations were established in constitutional law as 'persons' within the meaning of the 14th Amendment."

                                  http://www.answers.com/topic/santa-c...cific-railroad

                                  That article doesn't really discuss how the corporation is a jurisdictional person which is consisted of a group of natural persons so maybe there's a better article out there.

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                                  • Chio
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by baddog
                                    A juristic person is an artificial entity through which the law allows a group of natural persons to act as if it were a single composite individual for certain purposes.

                                    Kind of like a jury . . . which is probably where jury came from.
                                    The word jury comes from the French noun "jure" meaning an oath, judicial inquiry, or inquest.

                                    Etymology is a hobby of mine.


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                                    • baddog
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                                      • Apr 2001
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by The Sultan Of Smut
                                      The point was that if it's dumb so extend rights granted to a person to an ape then I can't see how it's not also dumb to extend these same rights to a corporation.
                                      Really? You don't see the difference? Are you Austrian by birth?

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                                      • The Sultan Of Smut
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by baddog
                                        Really? You don't see the difference? Are you Austrian by birth?
                                        No I'm not and the only thing I see is two example of applying rights granted to humans to two entities that are not. Can't you see that?

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                                        • baddog
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                                          • Apr 2001
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by The Sultan Of Smut
                                          No I'm not and the only thing I see is two example of applying rights granted to humans to two entities that are not. Can't you see that?
                                          If you can't see the difference between granting a fucking monkey the status of a human, and determining that a corporation should speak as the voice of one person rather than the individual voices of all the stockholders, you have some serious issues.

                                          I really hope you are kidding.

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                                          • Gunni
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                                            • Apr 2003
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                                            #22
                                            can't they just make the ape a corporation and thus giving him the rights of a human?

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                                            • gangbangjoe
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                                              • May 2004
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                                              #23
                                              again the old man is trying to bash every country to make the u.s.a look better

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                                              • gangbangjoe
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                                                • May 2004
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                                                #24
                                                http://youtube.com/watch?v=IVBO-JoyNL4

                                                please tell me baddog is like that

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                                                • baddog
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by gangbangjoe
                                                  again the old man is trying to bash every country to make the u.s.a look better
                                                  Oh, you think a monkey should be given the same rights as a human?

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                                                  • rapmaster
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Gunni
                                                    can't they just make the ape a corporation and thus giving him the rights of a human?
                                                    but corporations DO NOT have all the rights of a human, even though they are considered persons...


                                                    but hey, a corporation has a lot to offer - all the chimp has to offer is flinging crap at people
                                                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_Sauer_P226

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                                                    • baddog
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                                                      • Apr 2001
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by rapmaster
                                                      but corporations DO NOT have all the rights of a human, even though they are considered persons...


                                                      but hey, a corporation has a lot to offer - all the chimp has to offer is flinging crap at people
                                                      I have a feeling it would be easier to convince your wall.

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                                                      • gangbangjoe
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                                                        • May 2004
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by baddog
                                                        Oh, you think a monkey should be given the same rights as a human?
                                                        i don't give an apeshit about that monkey (hahahahaha am i funny again today )

                                                        just the fact that you had to blame it on a whole nation again makes me all fuzzy

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                                                        • rapmaster
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                                                          #29


                                                          look this monkey is smoking a joint
                                                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_Sauer_P226

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                                                          • baddog
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                                                            • Apr 2001
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by rapmaster


                                                            look this monkey is smoking a joint
                                                            And these monkeys are riding on bikes



                                                            I guess they should have human rights afterall.

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                                                            • gangbangjoe
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                                                              • May 2004
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by baddog
                                                              And these monkeys are riding on bikes



                                                              I guess they should have human rights afterall.
                                                              if i were cruel i would say this is the "baddog-posse" cruising through the town

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                                                              • rapmaster
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                                                                #32
                                                                The monkeys riding on bikes are hilarious... mostly cause theres more monkeys riding bikes in the background... as if it's something they do all the time, not just set up for the shot. lol
                                                                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_Sauer_P226

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                                                                • royaljelly2
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  LOL what's next? The chimp will run for government? mannnnnn....

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                                                                  • carol.prime
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    not really..they are just a liitle bit of dumb which is the same as others..
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