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vegasdude · 08-29-2002, 08:13 AM

100 fuckers

Theo · 08-29-2002, 08:27 AM

100 fuckers and me

SteveLightspeed · 08-31-2002, 08:41 AM

Still nothing

Apparently my 1300% increase in sales this year with Ibill isn't enough to warrant being treated fairly.

The ironic part is, they came to my office this spring to ask me for *any* part of my business. I was willing to start new with them, even after two years of bullshit. It looks like I put my trust in the wrong company.

It makes me wonder how they treat webmasters that don't make them a lot of money.

Steve Lightspeed

FATPad · 08-31-2002, 08:51 AM

103! *flexes*

*oww*

vegasdude · 09-01-2002, 04:21 PM

will keep bumping this thread forever!

Dawgy · 09-01-2002, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vegasdude
will keep bumping this thread forever!

we really do need a new dvd player at the office. i need to start showing gay porn to my co-workers

B.Diker · 09-01-2002, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dawgy

we really do need a new dvd player at the office. i need to start showing gay porn to my co-workers

why some people thinks: it's for DVD when they see the thread has too many replies...

gothweb · 09-01-2002, 05:06 PM

Has iBill declared bankruptcy? If not, they have to pay any debts that they are contractually bound to pay. I don't see where the question is. Why do people think the law doesn't apply to the adult industry? We're not a world unto ourselves, here.

Lightspeed-- I am sure a lawyer can help you out here. The law is pretty straightforward in this area, isn't it? Why bring it here. Take it to court.

gothweb · 09-01-2002, 05:07 PM

B. Diker: How many lines of text would you say there are in your sig?

quiet · 09-01-2002, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb
he law is pretty straightforward in this area, isn't it? Why bring it here. Take it to court.

uh, maybe because it affects thousands of companies that process thru ibill. web900 is a very small part of most peoples business - not worth suing. this thread is more about ibill's reputation, than it is about lost web900 revenue.

B.Diker · 09-01-2002, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb
B. Diker: How many lines of text would you say there are in your sig?

yea thanks to remind me
rules are rules

so check now ..

Regards

Kimmykim · 09-01-2002, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

uh, maybe because it affects thousands of companies that process thru ibill. web900 is a very small part of most peoples business - not worth suing. this thread is more about ibill's reputation, than it is about lost web900 revenue.

Entirely right, as usual quiet.

The cost of getting an attorney to get the money is probably about the same amount as the money if it went to a drawn out situation.

I am not entirely sure what their execs are thinking right now -- perhaps being bought by Intercept is changing them more than it appears.

CDSmith · 09-01-2002, 07:17 PM

Could this be the early groundswell of a major class-action suit?

Sure would have been nice to see a post or two from someone at ibill by now.

FATPad · 09-01-2002, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

I am not entirely sure what their execs are thinking right now -- perhaps being bought by Intercept is changing them more than it appears.

I know what their execs are thinking.

"DAMN! THESE BIG NEW OFFICES WE GOT KICK ASS! THANKS INTERCEPT!"

And that's about it, sadly...

Kimmykim · 09-01-2002, 10:58 PM

ROFL, Fatpad can always be counted on for some humor. Unfortunately it's at my expense sometimes, but at least not today... ;)

Tanker · 09-02-2002, 12:30 AM

Still no Ibill

Tanker

DaveKnell · 09-02-2002, 01:50 AM

While all this has been going on, they've landed me with a lawsuit over alleged trademark infringement - I own web900.co.uk. Apparently, as a result, I've "compromised the goodwill and reputation of iBill and its mark [web900]." Ironic, given that they'd appear to be doing a far better job of that themselves.

--Dave

RogerV · 09-02-2002, 01:59 AM

they are great about spamming me to process with them all the time.
What I don't under stand is why nobody has posted from IBill yet.

Epoch Posted

Jimbo#1 · 09-02-2002, 06:02 AM

Not only will they not post, they won't even answer email about this. The first time I asked them the replied that they didn't understand my question, the second time they have just ignored me. Not that?s the kind of professional company I want handling my processing.

vegasdude · 09-02-2002, 07:56 AM

ibill = no future!

Paolo · 09-02-2002, 07:57 AM

Steve.

I am sure glad they did not visit my office asking for my business.
They tried for over a year to get me to switch after I left.
I am sure glad I held out.

DO NOT USE IBILL IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO WASTE YOUR TIME AND MONEY. THEY BITE!

Use CCBILL. They have better sense and treat all webmasters with respect.

EscortBiz · 09-02-2002, 08:27 AM

I spoke with a women at epoch (think amber or something) she was helpful and quick and new what shes talking about.

CCBill is real great im half jewish and always looking to complain about stuff but CCBill does not give me anything to bitch about, they are great

insidethegame · 09-02-2002, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
Could this be the early groundswell of a major class-action suit?

Sure would have been nice to see a post or two from someone at ibill by now.

Aaa yea multi million dollar companies settling their disputes on some dopey webmaster board aimed at 12 year olds.Ya know for as long as I?ve been in this biz the immaturity of those expectations still takes the cake.This biz will NEVER mature to something meaningful as long as newbie biz folks(regardless of how much $$ they make or experiencing a 1300% growth in selling dirty pics..lol) think it makes good Biz sense to air their grievances on dopey public message boards,the approach by the VAST majority of biz people in the industry are a joke.

Tanker · 09-04-2002, 07:42 AM

vegasdude · 09-05-2002, 03:50 AM

time to bump

quiet · 09-05-2002, 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by insidethegame

Aaa yea multi million dollar companies settling their disputes on some dopey webmaster board aimed at 12 year olds.Ya know for as long as I?ve been in this biz the immaturity of those expectations still takes the cake.This biz will NEVER mature to something meaningful as long as newbie biz folks(regardless of how much $$ they make or experiencing a 1300% growth in selling dirty pics..lol) think it makes good Biz sense to air their grievances on dopey public message boards,the approach by the VAST majority of biz people in the industry are a joke.

sure - but bitching about others posting on said dopey message board is most certainly not a joke.

ServerGenius · 09-05-2002, 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by insidethegame

Aaa yea multi million dollar companies settling their disputes on some dopey webmaster board aimed at 12 year olds.Ya know for as long as I?ve been in this biz the immaturity of those expectations still takes the cake.This biz will NEVER mature to something meaningful as long as newbie biz folks(regardless of how much $$ they make or experiencing a 1300% growth in selling dirty pics..lol) think it makes good Biz sense to air their grievances on dopey public message boards,the approach by the VAST majority of biz people in the industry are a joke.

This Multidollar company is not even communicating with their
clients.....not even when they don't pay up what they own...
that's when people start posting on dopey message boards.
If they would have givin some VALID explenation then this whole
thing wouldn't even have ended up here.....so spare us your
self proclaimed wisdom....it makes you look dumb

DynaMite

FATPad · 09-05-2002, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by insidethegame

Aaa yea multi million dollar companies settling their disputes on some dopey webmaster board aimed at 12 year olds.Ya know for as long as I?ve been in this biz the immaturity of those expectations still takes the cake.This biz will NEVER mature to something meaningful as long as newbie biz folks(regardless of how much $$ they make or experiencing a 1300% growth in selling dirty pics..lol) think it makes good Biz sense to air their grievances on dopey public message boards,the approach by the VAST majority of biz people in the industry are a joke.

BOING!

BOINGBOINGBOING!!

vegasdude · 09-06-2002, 02:57 AM

bumb -

dont sign up with Ibill's new web900....!

vegasdude · 09-06-2002, 05:35 AM

CDSmith · 09-06-2002, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by insidethegame
Aaa yea multi million dollar companies settling their disputes on some dopey webmaster board aimed at 12 year olds.Ya know for as long as I?ve been in this biz the immaturity of those expectations still takes the cake.This biz will NEVER mature to something meaningful as long as newbie biz folks(regardless of how much $$ they make or experiencing a 1300% growth in selling dirty pics..lol) think it makes good Biz sense to air their grievances on dopey public message boards,the approach by the VAST majority of biz people in the industry are a joke.

Your post speaks volumes about your maturity, the jury is still out on Ibill though.

So you're saying multi-million dollar companies are too good to come here and talk to us lowly webmasters? (the webmasters that comprise the bulk of what actually generates said millions btw)

This issue like a lot of issues has shown up here due to the lack of response via the more private mediums such as phone, email, or IM. Maybe you were too busy typing up your joke of a post to actually notice the part where LS said he has tried to contact them repeatedly with no success.

Big companies with thousand of webmaster affiliates tend to LOVE webmasters, not look down their shit-stained noses at them. At least the good ones do, the long-term ones. Rule #1 for any company that includes the affiliate-based model into it's gameplan --- "Fuck the webmasters and you fuck yourself."

FATPad · 09-07-2002, 01:51 PM

KABAMM!

SUPER BUMP!

Man...I'm such a troublemaking dickhead...

Sly_RJ · 09-07-2002, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FATPad
KABAMM!

SUPER BUMP!

Man...I'm such a troublemaking dickhead...

But you suck great cock.

FATPad · 09-07-2002, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

But you suck great cock.

Gotta be good at something.

vegasdude · 09-07-2002, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

But you suck great cock.

Kimmykim · 09-07-2002, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
This issue like a lot of issues has shown up here due to the lack of response via the more private mediums such as phone, email, or IM. Maybe you were too busy typing up your joke of a post to actually notice the part where LS said he has tried to contact them repeatedly with no success.

Ibill does not have a strong board presence and Lord knows poor Cathy gets hammered every time she posts, no matter what she says. I'm sure they are aware of this fact, and if I were Cathy at this point, I don't know that I would post until I had some more information.

Everyone screws up, IBil is obviously no exception -- one would hope that they are meeting amongst themselves trying to decide how to handle these incidents and will have something more to say shohahahay.

And not just in private conversations. Once a subject has been made public, it quite often has to be addressed in public, especially when there are a lot of people potentially standing to lose from the solutions to the problems.

CDSmith · 09-07-2002, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
Ibill does not have a strong board presence and Lord knows poor Cathy gets hammered every time she posts, no matter what she says. I'm sure they are aware of this fact, and if I were Cathy at this point, I don't know that I would post until I had some more information.

Absolutely right.

However, it would seem to me from reading the few posts that I've seen of hers, that she brings much of it on herself. I don't know if her superiors are tying her hands as to what she can and cannot say on here, but choosing to announce a new supposedly *awesome* new project at the same time that many webmasters are crying out for answers and going unheard is, well frankly a very bad move on their part. Not only does it look unprofessional, but it gives webmasters the impression that their concerns aren't a priority.

Kimmy, I've never once known you to NOT get right in the thick of things and straighten shit out, ever. You set a fairly high standard of customer service while with CCBill, possibly to the point of spoiling us, because we now expect no less from other processors.

I'd be happy if they merely took the time to acknowledge a few of the legitimate concerns here, maybe provide a few answers. Nothing more.

insidethegame · 09-07-2002, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
Your post speaks volumes about your maturity, the jury is still out on Ibill though.

So you're saying multi-million dollar companies are too good to come here and talk to us lowly webmasters? (the webmasters that comprise the bulk of what actually generates said millions btw)

This issue like a lot of issues has shown up here due to the lack of response via the more private mediums such as phone, email, or IM. Maybe you were too busy typing up your joke of a post to actually notice the part where LS said he has tried to contact them repeatedly with no success.

Big companies with thousand of webmaster affiliates tend to LOVE webmasters, not look down their shit-stained noses at them. At least the good ones do, the long-term ones. Rule #1 for any company that includes the affiliate-based model into it's gameplan --- "Fuck the webmasters and you fuck yourself."

Dipshit.....Im saying that PROFESSIONAL Companies handle customer support and customer issues One on One in ways that Inhance the resolution of problems...NOT BY PARTICIPATING IN MOB MENTALITY on some dopey public message board with 12 year olds like YOU!

theking · 09-07-2002, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by insidethegame

Dipshit.....Im saying that PROFESSIONAL Companies handle customer support and customer issues One on One in ways that Inhance the resolution of problems...NOT BY PARTICIPATING IN MOB MENTALITY on some dopey public message board with 12 year olds like YOU!

True professionals do it that way, but they are few true professionals.

Kimmykim · 09-07-2002, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
Kimmy, I've never once known you to NOT get right in the thick of things and straighten shit out, ever. You set a fairly high standard of customer service while with CCBill, possibly to the point of spoiling us, because we now expect no less from other processors.

Yeah but you gotta remember CD, I was posting on boards before I worked for CQ or CCBill, and not put into a situation of having to post BECAUSE I worked somewhere.

There's a huge difference there, and Cathy is in a situation where she can't win.

Sly_RJ · 09-07-2002, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by insidethegame

Dipshit.....Im saying that PROFESSIONAL Companies handle customer support and customer issues One on One in ways that Inhance the resolution of problems...NOT BY PARTICIPATING IN MOB MENTALITY on some dopey public message board with 12 year olds like YOU!

True professionals don't call names.

SpaceAce · 09-07-2002, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by insidethegame

Dipshit.....Im saying that PROFESSIONAL Companies handle customer support and customer issues One on One in ways that Inhance the resolution of problems...NOT BY PARTICIPATING IN MOB MENTALITY on some dopey public message board with 12 year olds like YOU!

Are you really this completely un-self aware? You continue to call this a "dopey" message board but you have a fair number of posts here and seem concerned enough what the people here think of you to keep replying to this thread.

Also, did you actually read the thread or did you just see an opportunity to jam your foot into your mouth? Did you see the people that claimed to have attempted to handle this issue one-on-one with IBill only to be ignored?

This sort of issue would not make it to the "dopey mesage boards" if it were handled properly in the first place. People come here to look for answers and to share information. If some company is fucking up and costing people money, I want to know about it. That way I can avoid getting stung.

SpaceAce

Dax · 09-07-2002, 11:26 PM

So.... are you guys saying that I should use Ibill... from what I gather they are the way to go....

insidethegame · 09-08-2002, 12:39 AM

If some company is fucking up and costing people money, I want to know about it. That way I can avoid getting stung.

SpaceAce
_________________________________________________

Well good then young child...You run your business with information thats rumor,BS,ego,and small opinions from small minds at best.What makes you think that ANYTHING that has to do with Business on these open message boards isnt slathered with agenda and self promotion.How long have you been in the industry?!?!l

Reading boards isnt like readin the wall street journal joker and if ya run your *cough* business like that youll be back at the fry timer again soon enough;)

vegasdude · 09-08-2002, 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed
As many of you may know, Worldcom went bankrupt and did not pay Ibill for 2.5 months or so of 900 sales.

Ibill, in its worst blunder EVER, has decided that the 20% fee they charge is not enough to actually stand behind their payouts, so they have withheld all 900 payments for nearly six weeks from the paysite owners.

Ibill doesn't seem to understand or value the trust that we place in them as a 3rd party processor. If they did, they would realize that the problem with worldcom is THEIR problem. I don't ever remember signing a deal with Worldcom, my agreement was with ibill.

Ibill now refuses to honor our trust and instead of paying the webmasters, they are sticking the loss on the sponsors, like us at Lightspeedcash, even though we have already paid OUR webmasters (so indeed we get fucked TWICE, money out, no money in)

We have paid our webmasters in good faith. I just wish Ibill would show some integrity and do the same while they resolve their issues with Worldcom.

Any opinions on this?

Steve Lightspeed

Tipsy · 09-08-2002, 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by insidethegame

Dipshit.....Im saying that PROFESSIONAL Companies handle customer support and customer issues One on One in ways that Inhance the resolution of problems...NOT BY PARTICIPATING IN MOB MENTALITY on some dopey public message board with 12 year olds like YOU!

This guy's funny. Can we have some more posts from him? You can't help but laugh when somebody slags off other people's maturity and professionalism and has a worse grasp of the English language than a 12 year old French school kid

katman · 09-08-2002, 10:50 AM

Quote:

While we anticipate some type of resolution and compensation in the near future, ***we are forced to withhold our payout*** to you until the situation is resolved.

American TelNet is and has always been the leader for the finest pay-per-call programming with the highest ***guaranteed payouts*** having billed over $1 billion on behalf of our clients.

I thought "Guaranteed" meant uh...

SpaceAce · 09-08-2002, 11:17 AM

Quote:

[B}Well good then young child...You run your business with information thats rumor,BS,ego,and small opinions from small minds at best.What makes you think that ANYTHING that has to do with Business on these open message boards isnt slathered with agenda and self promotion.How long have you been in the industry?!?!l

Reading boards isnt like readin the wall street journal joker and if ya run your *cough* business like that youll be back at the fry timer again soon enough;) [/B]

I've been in the industry, making my living completely from this, for over five years. I've made enough money to keep food in my stomach, a roof over my head and cars under my ass. I'm hardly a "young child".

I think it's clear to everyone here who the small mind is.

SpaceAce

Gary · 09-08-2002, 11:20 AM

insidethegame is just another in a long line of people who try to make everyone thing they are a "player"

Its kinda funny

Cindyff · 09-08-2002, 11:43 AM

I have posted in the other thread, but just wanted to make a suggestion here. Over the last year i have had an amazing amount of trouble with IBILL, too many things to bore you guys with but i took about 5 hours of my time each week to sort out with our so called major account manager, who now never returns calls or e-mails, she is obviously too important to deal with us?

My suggestion is that we warn all the new webmasters on Ynot and Xbiz all4you, etc etc. Most of the experienced webmasters know the problems with IBILL and are keeping clear but the new guys will get fucked !
Oh and one thing we found our recently was that the new check 2 system dosent work with Netscape. I know a lot of you dont use that in favor of IE but its a possible loss of 5% of your traffic check it out and if AOL drop's IE in favor of Netscape7 that's 35 million users that may never be able to join your site if IBILL dose'nt fix this.

09-01-2002, 05:06 PM	#108
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	Has iBill declared bankruptcy? If not, they have to pay any debts that they are contractually bound to pay. I don't see where the question is. Why do people think the law doesn't apply to the adult industry? We're not a world unto ourselves, here. Lightspeed-- I am sure a lawyer can help you out here. The law is pretty straightforward in this area, isn't it? Why bring it here. Take it to court. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

09-01-2002, 05:07 PM	#109
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09-01-2002, 07:17 PM	#113
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	Could this be the early groundswell of a major class-action suit? Sure would have been nice to see a post or two from someone at ibill by now. __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634

09-02-2002, 12:30 AM	#116
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09-02-2002, 07:57 AM	#121
Paolo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada Posts: 491	Steve. I am sure glad they did not visit my office asking for my business. They tried for over a year to get me to switch after I left. I am sure glad I held out. DO NOT USE IBILL IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO WASTE YOUR TIME AND MONEY. THEY BITE! Use CCBILL. They have better sense and treat all webmasters with respect. __________________ [

08-29-2002, 08:13 AM	#101
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08-29-2002, 08:27 AM	#102
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	100 fuckers and me

08-31-2002, 08:41 AM	#103
SteveLightspeed Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lightspeedworld Posts: 7,940	Still nothing Apparently my 1300% increase in sales this year with Ibill isn't enough to warrant being treated fairly. The ironic part is, they came to my office this spring to ask me for any part of my business. I was willing to start new with them, even after two years of bullshit. It looks like I put my trust in the wrong company. It makes me wonder how they treat webmasters that don't make them a lot of money. Steve Lightspeed

08-31-2002, 08:51 AM	#104
FATPad Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,693	103! flexes oww

09-01-2002, 04:21 PM	#105
vegasdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Royal Family Crew Posts: 3,649	will keep bumping this thread forever!

09-01-2002, 10:58 PM	#115
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	ROFL, Fatpad can always be counted on for some humor. Unfortunately it's at my expense sometimes, but at least not today... ;)

09-02-2002, 01:50 AM	#117
DaveKnell Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: London, England Posts: 76	While all this has been going on, they've landed me with a lawsuit over alleged trademark infringement - I own web900.co.uk. Apparently, as a result, I've "compromised the goodwill and reputation of iBill and its mark [web900]." Ironic, given that they'd appear to be doing a far better job of that themselves. --Dave

09-02-2002, 01:59 AM	#118
RogerV Banned! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,591	they are great about spamming me to process with them all the time. What I don't under stand is why nobody has posted from IBill yet. Epoch Posted

09-02-2002, 06:02 AM	#119
Jimbo#1 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 211	Not only will they not post, they won't even answer email about this. The first time I asked them the replied that they didn't understand my question, the second time they have just ignored me. Not that?s the kind of professional company I want handling my processing.

09-02-2002, 07:56 AM	#120
vegasdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Royal Family Crew Posts: 3,649	ibill = no future!

09-02-2002, 08:27 AM	#122
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09-05-2002, 03:50 AM	#125
vegasdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Royal Family Crew Posts: 3,649	time to bump

09-06-2002, 02:57 AM	#129
vegasdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Royal Family Crew Posts: 3,649	bumb - dont sign up with Ibill's new web900....!

09-06-2002, 05:35 AM	#130
vegasdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Royal Family Crew Posts: 3,649	.

09-07-2002, 01:51 PM	#132
FATPad Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,693	KABAMM! SUPER BUMP! Man...I'm such a troublemaking dickhead...

09-07-2002, 11:26 PM	#143
Dax Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,161	So.... are you guys saying that I should use Ibill... from what I gather they are the way to go....

09-08-2002, 12:39 AM	#144
insidethegame Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 117	If some company is fucking up and costing people money, I want to know about it. That way I can avoid getting stung. SpaceAce _________________________________________________ Well good then young child...You run your business with information thats rumor,BS,ego,and small opinions from small minds at best.What makes you think that ANYTHING that has to do with Business on these open message boards isnt slathered with agenda and self promotion.How long have you been in the industry?!?!l Reading boards isnt like readin the wall street journal joker and if ya run your cough business like that youll be back at the fry timer again soon enough;)

09-08-2002, 11:20 AM	#149
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09-08-2002, 11:43 AM	#150
Cindyff Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: California Posts: 1,187	I have posted in the other thread, but just wanted to make a suggestion here. Over the last year i have had an amazing amount of trouble with IBILL, too many things to bore you guys with but i took about 5 hours of my time each week to sort out with our so called major account manager, who now never returns calls or e-mails, she is obviously too important to deal with us? My suggestion is that we warn all the new webmasters on Ynot and Xbiz all4you, etc etc. Most of the experienced webmasters know the problems with IBILL and are keeping clear but the new guys will get fucked ! Oh and one thing we found our recently was that the new check 2 system dosent work with Netscape. I know a lot of you dont use that in favor of IE but its a possible loss of 5% of your traffic check it out and if AOL drop's IE in favor of Netscape7 that's 35 million users that may never be able to join your site if IBILL dose'nt fix this.