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StarkReality · 03-22-2007, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoose

I assume you guys talking about rewriting the content are doing this automatically somehow..? Otherwise why not just write your own posts? :confused

Not only the content, for use on some aggregators auto updating pubdates every time the feed is pulled can be very handy

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kektex · 03-22-2007, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoose

The thing with rewriting using RSSMagician or any other content rewriter though, is if multiple people use the same script, then it puts you right back where you started, no? Multiple people throwing the same RSS feed through the same algorithm = duplicate content. I mean I'm sure the script is configurable but .. ugh. You might as well just import all dictionary words greater then 5 characters into a database, pull 10 at random and sprinkle in keywords

Well I´ve used other content rewriters previously and there´s always a bit of randomness in the algorithm so you dont get the same content over and over.
But I dont know if this is the case with rssmagician though...

Darrell · 03-23-2007, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by StarkReality
Duplicate content on the same domain is by far more dangerous and since many people don't know how to get their templates and link structure setup correctly, 100% self written blogs are in danger as well. Why ? Because every post is indexed via 3 or 4 different URLs...and that's what hurts.

If I understand what you said correctly - if I have for instance a feature page for a solo girl on my site and there is a link to that page from several pages like a top ten blondes page and a new sites page etc. Are you saying that is classed as duplicate content, even though there is only one page with the content on?

StarkReality · 03-23-2007, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Darrell

If I understand what you said correctly - if I have for instance a feature page for a solo girl on my site and there is a link to that page from several pages like a top ten blondes page and a new sites page etc. Are you saying that is classed as duplicate content, even though there is only one page with the content on?

No, that's not a problem, multiple links to the same page are fine. The problem is the following: If you have a blog with multiple categories, monthly archives and maybe daily archives, each post is indexed individually BUT it also appears on those archive pages. It becomes even worse with tag clouds/alot of categories.

Example: You write 10 new posts. You tag/categorize them with "pussy", "anal", "hardcore" and "amateur" and a few that a different for each post. Now you got the 10 posts on the mainpage, you got them in the "pussy", "anal", "hardcore" and "amateur" category and on top of this months archive, maybe even on another page for the daily archive. Always the same posts, the same order. Depending on their permanent link structure, it can be even more.

So, if the different links post to exactly the same URL, it's all fine, but in my example, it's in /pussy/, /anal/, /hardcore/, /amateur/, /2007/pussy/ (or /posttitle.html), maybe /2007/03/23/.

Darrell · 03-23-2007, 07:03 AM

Ok, that's what I thought. Thanks for taking the time to reply

dustin101 · 03-23-2007, 07:07 AM

i just put up, official video galleries no RSS becasue I want to do good on google,
RSS is awesome though like on my google homepage

kektex · 03-23-2007, 07:09 AM

That´s why in blogs it´s not good practice to place one post under multiple categories.Each post is going to be duplicated under all the categories you used.
What I did for my blogs was place a NOINDEX metatag on all category pages because I already had like 200 posts with multiple categories.

SinisterStudios · 03-23-2007, 07:16 AM

There is no money in using RSS

. I guess i have to take down my blog farms

RSS is another tool to make things easier, its not a "im a lazy webmaster and ill just pop up a WP blog and take a bunch of RSS feeds" type of tool. Like anything else you need to think outside the box and you will do well.

SCORE Ralph · 03-23-2007, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by StarkReality

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So, if the different links post to exactly the same URL, it's all fine, but in my example, it's in /pussy/, /anal/, /hardcore/, /amateur/, /2007/pussy/ (or /posttitle.html), maybe /2007/03/23/.

This is more of a blog layout issue and not a RSS issue.

MikeSmoke · 03-23-2007, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by webgeek

here you are, how to do it.
http://www.filination.com/tech/2007/...t-duplication/

the problem with that is if the blog's index page is index.php - you'd have to ALLOW /index.php? - if i'm not mistaken?

baddog · 03-23-2007, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Profits of Doom

I've always had this question myself. If you use an RSS feed as is but also add your own original blog posts you won't run into that problem, right?

Feeds should supplement the site.

baddog · 03-23-2007, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kektex

That´s why in blogs it´s not good practice to place one post under multiple categories.

disagree

baddog · 03-23-2007, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace

now that I don't think is fair use....rss feeds from sponsors is one thing, but grabbing another blogs rss feeds and using them is shady

then don't put out an rss feed

Dirty Dane · 03-23-2007, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SinisterStudios

There is no money in using RSS

.

No money in SEO either.

rowan · 03-23-2007, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kektex

It´s a good idea to rewrite your content as well as mix it with original content.
Duplicate content filters are not a myth.It sucks to have your whole site thrown in to supplemental hell.
If anyone is looking for a feed rewriter click here. I´ve been using it on a couple of sites now and so far it´s working great.
Sometimes the Markov outputs some hard to understand shit but in the end all you want is the surfer to click through.

Here's one I tried.....

http://www.gigodiary.com/

V_RocKs · 03-23-2007, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace

now that I don't think is fair use....rss feeds from sponsors is one thing, but grabbing another blogs rss feeds and using them is shady

Actually a few of my blogs have people reusing my feeds (codes intact) and I enjoy it because about 20% of the sales come from their sites, not mine.

Beejeebers · 03-23-2007, 03:54 PM

Grabbing the posts and re-writing the links is shady. Some programs do this.

starpimps · 03-23-2007, 04:19 PM

bump for a good thread

Murderous · 03-23-2007, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

disagree

Care to elaborate?

Cory W · 03-23-2007, 04:38 PM

RSS is the stomping ground for more intense revisions and innovations. It isn't a pure science with black and white logic, however it is starting point for greater things.

In essence, syndication is a tool that allows sites to offer a more expansive variety of content. If you come to my home, you can watch TV, or open a National Geographic. On another end of the spectrum, it is a business that quite clearly has made it easier for webmasters to provide affiliate linking codes to surfers and provide updated pages with logical directories to spiders.

The real heart of all of this will be in it's future. When syndication becomes backwards compatible, when it becomes custom on both ends, when it communicates both ways in a more logical way.

At the end of the day, the same thing will be true tomorrow that is true today, and was true yesterday: If you are in this for quality, you will have longevity.

Everyone always ask how XXXJay has so many SE listings. What they should be asking is why does he have so many return visitors?

Learn how tools can help you, not be you, and you will likely be fine.

baddog · 03-23-2007, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Murderous

Care to elaborate?

Not really. Someone will just argue about it and I am not in the mood. Just put it this way, as long as the category is relevant it is a good thing.

StarkReality · 03-27-2007, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

then don't put out an rss feed

Right, although a feed is not different from a website when it comes to copyright and legal stuff, it's an invitation to syndicate it.

I see nothing bad with people syndicating feeds, as long as they don't rewrite them or change link codes. Some of my blogs get more traffic from scraper sites like icerocket, zewol & Co. than from google.

There are much worse things than people grabbing feeds, it's the day some nasty nph proxy hits your site, sent by a friendly fellow webmaster and google kicks you out of the index or at least ruins your rankings for a long time.

IllTestYourGirls · 03-27-2007, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mattz

lol thanks for a great laugh, rss feeds make me thousands a month

I've never once used a rss feed on any of my sites with not editing / rewriting them first

Teach me? I would love to learn. Hit me up on ICQ sometime. I have been testing some RSS feeds, changing the text.

This is a great thread!

IllTestYourGirls · 03-27-2007, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

disagree

I have always wondered about that. I post mine in as many as I can.

baddog · 03-27-2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

I have always wondered about that. I post mine in as many as I can.

As long as it is a relevant category.

An example can be seen at http://www.pradult.com/ if you look at the News categories on the left menu.

There are 1376 entries in the main category (All Porn News), and they are also spread out over all the categories listed below. We allow up to two additional categories besides All Porn News.

IllTestYourGirls · 03-27-2007, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

As long as it is a relevant category.

An example can be seen at http://www.pradult.com/ if you look at the News categories on the left menu.

There are 1376 entries in the main category (All Porn News), and they are also spread out over all the categories listed below. We allow up to two additional categories besides All Porn News.

Very nice. I bookmarked that one.

I never force my post into a cat. But I think about how I can make a post fit more than one.

Thanks for the tip

VexXxed · 03-27-2007, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace

myth.....associated press....have any idea what they are and what they do? and the millions of sites that use them?

Booyakasha. Nuff Said.

sarettah · 03-27-2007, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace

now that I don't think is fair use....rss feeds from sponsors is one thing, but grabbing another blogs rss feeds and using them is shady

Why provide the rss feed if you don't want someone to use it?

as far as duplicate content goes, I was yakking with Dravyk last night about this stuff and he says that the spiders can tell the difference between the original site and the sites using the rss feeds and that the spiders do not count it as duplicate content.

I am not sure if he is right but he has done a hell of a lot of research on it and is fast becoming an seo expert.

porno jew · 03-27-2007, 08:05 PM

vod · 03-27-2007, 08:45 PM

XonDemand is in BETA with syndication for RSS

this Thread was helpfull...

should I create an RSS feed that feeds in Random order...

I agree that you need to have a personal touch when just using the RSS feed.

I also agree that RSS will help your existing site with more content.

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StarkReality · 03-28-2007, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah

Why provide the rss feed if you don't want someone to use it?

as far as duplicate content goes, I was yakking with Dravyk last night about this stuff and he says that the spiders can tell the difference between the original site and the sites using the rss feeds and that the spiders do not count it as duplicate content.

I am not sure if he is right but he has done a hell of a lot of research on it and is fast becoming an seo expert.

Well, in theory it should be like this, but google tends to rely on domain authority/popularity/links when it comes to guessing which site is the original. I highly doubt that google can detect if content was syndicated via RSS or just copied manually. Maybe different for the new blogsearch, but not for the main google index. Since they prefer sites with a certain "trust", it's only logical that they credit the authorship to the most trusted site among those that have duplicate content...and it doesn't have to be the site of the author.

You can watch a phenomenon backing up this theory when looking for paysite names, especially new ones using search engine friendly URLs...the domain.com disappears from page one and a link like domain.com/affiliatecode/ shows up in the serps...because the link with the affiliate code has more and stronger links.

That brings me back to the nph proxies (cgi proxies, often referred as "anonymous surfing services"), why are they kicking hundreds and thousands of sites from google, hijacking their listings and stealing all their SE traffic this way, filling their wallets with adsense & co. ? Because google guesses !

webgeek · 03-29-2007, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by vod

should I create an RSS feed that feeds in Random order...

each item in the feed is considered as unique (using guid where available or link tag). it doesn't really matter if you randomize the order of it.

webgeek · 03-29-2007, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by StarkReality

You can watch a phenomenon backing up this theory when looking for paysite names, especially new ones using search engine friendly URLs...the domain.com disappears from page one and a link like domain.com/affiliatecode/ shows up in the serps...because the link with the affiliate code has more and stronger links.

exactly check this google search for bangbus second link belongs to an affiliate.
so this means different link points to the same url on the same domain, which is exacly a content duplication. also site owners must be careful about this subject. not really an RSS issue but good example

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