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  • webgeek
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    • Mar 2007
    • 165

    #1

    All about this RSS bullshit!!!

    When do the webmasters will understand ?
    RSS syndication is going to ruin your business.
    You're all grabbing the same RSS feeds again and again and posting it without any mofication. You're thinking you'll put the sign-ups to autopilot but all you'll get is a HUGE BAN FROM GOOGLE.

    doesn't anyone hear about content duplication???

    everyday at least 4-5 threads are asking for RSS feeds. you'll just ruin your business. it's redicilous...
    webgeek
  • Jace
    FBOP Class Of 2013
    • Jan 2004
    • 35562

    #2
    LOL...ever think that people use rss as a base content and re-write it before posting?

    and let me just say one thing in regards to the duplicate content myth.....associated press....have any idea what they are and what they do? and the millions of sites that use them?

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    • munki
      Do Fun Shit.
      • Dec 2004
      • 13393

      #3
      hrrmm... so there's one opinion.

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      • munki
        Do Fun Shit.
        • Dec 2004
        • 13393

        #4
        Originally posted by Jace
        LOL...ever think that people use rss as a base content and re-write it before posting?

        and let me just say one thing in regards to the duplicate content myth.....associated press....have any idea what they are and what they do? and the millions of sites that use them?
        and there's the one I was waiting on...

        good timing...


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        • Jace
          FBOP Class Of 2013
          • Jan 2004
          • 35562

          #5
          btw, sorry you can't think out of the box enough to know how rss can be, and is being, used properly and not be penalized

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          • Mr Pheer
            So Fucking Banned
            • Dec 2002
            • 22083

            #6
            Originally posted by webgeek
            everyday at least 4-5 threads are asking for RSS feeds. you'll just ruin your business. it's redicilous...
            yep.

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            • teg0
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2006
              • 4204

              #7
              I had someone taking a feed from one of my blogs and running it on his blog. I just left a comment explaining how that was a bad idea and he quietly removed it.

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              • webgeek
                Confirmed User
                • Mar 2007
                • 165

                #8
                Originally posted by Jace
                LOL...ever think that people use rss as a base content and re-write it before posting?

                and let me just say one thing in regards to the duplicate content myth.....associated press....have any idea what they are and what they do? and the millions of sites that use them?
                that's myth you believe. do you know anything about authority sites???
                AP site will always get higher PR from any site that is publishing it.

                most webmasters don't even care about rewriting it. just post on auto pilot.
                webgeek

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                • Profits of Doom
                  Monster Rain
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 4978

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jace
                  LOL...ever think that people use rss as a base content and re-write it before posting?

                  and let me just say one thing in regards to the duplicate content myth.....associated press....have any idea what they are and what they do? and the millions of sites that use them?
                  I've always had this question myself. If you use an RSS feed as is but also add your own original blog posts you won't run into that problem, right?
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                  • Jace
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                    • Jan 2004
                    • 35562

                    #10
                    Originally posted by teg0
                    I had someone taking a feed from one of my blogs and running it on his blog. I just left a comment explaining how that was a bad idea and he quietly removed it.
                    now that I don't think is fair use....rss feeds from sponsors is one thing, but grabbing another blogs rss feeds and using them is shady

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                    • Jace
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                      • Jan 2004
                      • 35562

                      #11
                      Originally posted by webgeek
                      that's myth you believe. do you know anything about authority sites???
                      AP site will always get higher PR from any site that is publishing it.

                      most webmasters don't even care about rewriting it. just post on auto pilot.
                      why are you so worried about what every one else is doing?

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                      • webgeek
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                        • Mar 2007
                        • 165

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Jace
                        btw, sorry you can't think out of the box enough to know how rss can be, and is being, used properly and not be penalized
                        well I know what to do. but check some threads for the webmasters who's asking for RSS. their sites are just on auto pilot.
                        webgeek

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                        • Jace
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                          • Jan 2004
                          • 35562

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Profits of Doom
                          I've always had this question myself. If you use an RSS feed as is but also add your own original blog posts you won't run into that problem, right?
                          I am no expert by any means, but I have never had any issues using ALL rss feeds, so I would imagine a original blog with rss posts scattered in there will be just fine

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                          • Jace
                            FBOP Class Of 2013
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 35562

                            #14
                            Originally posted by webgeek
                            well I know what to do. but check some threads for the webmasters who's asking for RSS. their sites are just on auto pilot.
                            WHO CARES?

                            let them do that, or are they hurting you in some way?

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                            • webgeek
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                              • Mar 2007
                              • 165

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Jace
                              why are you so worried about what every one else is doing?
                              I'm not worried. I'm just sad that ppl are so ignorant. that's why I felt like I have to tell it.
                              webgeek

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                              • cones
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 571

                                #16
                                thanx for sharing

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                                • webgeek
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                                  • Mar 2007
                                  • 165

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Jace
                                  WHO CARES?

                                  let them do that, or are they hurting you in some way?
                                  maybe I'm abit pissed off too.
                                  because the same lame asses think they are the king of web and give you bullshit on whatever thread they can.
                                  they have no clue about what they are doing. just bullllllllll
                                  webgeek

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                                  • Profits of Doom
                                    Monster Rain
                                    • Feb 2004
                                    • 4978

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Jace
                                    I am no expert by any means, but I have never had any issues using ALL rss feeds, so I would imagine a original blog with rss posts scattered in there will be just fine
                                    Ok cool, I had always heard the same thing as far as the duplicate content issue and assumed it as fact. The blog I'm working on is going to be using feeds mixed with my own original content.
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                                    • webgeek
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                                      • Mar 2007
                                      • 165

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Profits of Doom
                                      Ok cool, I had always heard the same thing as far as the duplicate content issue and assumed it as fact. The blog I'm working on is going to be using feeds mixed with my own original content.
                                      that's whay I'm talking about. you must have your original content!!!
                                      RSS is good for syndicating other's content like a blogroll etc.
                                      webgeek

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                                      • Jace
                                        FBOP Class Of 2013
                                        • Jan 2004
                                        • 35562

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Profits of Doom
                                        Ok cool, I had always heard the same thing as far as the duplicate content issue and assumed it as fact. The blog I'm working on is going to be using feeds mixed with my own original content.
                                        http://searchengineland.com/070315-100022.php

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                                        • Sosa
                                          In Tushy Land
                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 40149

                                          #21
                                          that is what autp blogger pro is for!

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                                          • webgeek
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Mar 2007
                                            • 165

                                            #22
                                            yeah it's a myth and a guy from google was there to talk about "how do you search porn on google?"

                                            and their patent filing on content duplication is just another trick so they can get some tax credit.

                                            also global warming doesn't exist too...
                                            webgeek

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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Jace
                                              LOL...ever think that people use rss as a base content and re-write it before posting?

                                              and let me just say one thing in regards to the duplicate content myth.....associated press....have any idea what they are and what they do? and the millions of sites that use them?
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                                              • Jace
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                                                • Jan 2004
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by webgeek
                                                yeah it's a myth and a guy from google was there to talk about "how do you search porn on google?"

                                                and their patent filing on content duplication is just another trick so they can get some tax credit.

                                                also global warming doesn't exist too...
                                                um...did you even read the article?

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                                                • tenderobject
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                                                  • Dec 2004
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                                                  #25
                                                  uhmm ok.. im testing a blog network using feeds from sponsor let see how it works but so far its ok. after that i'll ad a custom gallery feeds on each sites i think that would be fine.


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                                                  • StarkReality
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                                                    • May 2004
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Profits of Doom
                                                    Ok cool, I had always heard the same thing as far as the duplicate content issue and assumed it as fact. The blog I'm working on is going to be using feeds mixed with my own original content.
                                                    Yup, that's an effective way, write yourself and fill it with posts from feeds here and there.

                                                    Duplicate content doesn't mean you get banned, that's bullshit, it just means the page with duplicate content may rank worse. It only becomes a problem if all or most of the posts are from one single sponsor feed, and even then it rarely leads to a ban...it just ranks shitty.

                                                    Duplicate content on the same domain is by far more dangerous and since many people don't know how to get their templates and link structure setup correctly, 100% self written blogs are in danger as well. Why ? Because every post is indexed via 3 or 4 different URLs...and that's what hurts.

                                                    Many webmasters even let google grab www.domain.com and domain.com because they don't use 2 simple lines of code in the .htaccess, so they will get like 8 different URLs for every single post (worst case). No surprise if they get banned.

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                                                    • Jace
                                                      FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                      • 35562

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by StarkReality
                                                      Yup, that's an effective way, write yourself and fill it with posts from feeds here and there.

                                                      Duplicate content doesn't mean you get banned, that's bullshit, it just means the page with duplicate content may rank worse. It only becomes a problem if all or most of the posts are from one single sponsor feed, and even then it rarely leads to a ban...it just ranks shitty.

                                                      Duplicate content on the same domain is by far more dangerous and since many people don't know how to get their templates and link structure setup correctly, 100% self written blogs are in danger as well. Why ? Because every post is indexed via 3 or 4 different URLs...and that's what hurts.

                                                      Many webmasters even let google grab www.domain.com and domain.com because they don't use 2 simple lines of code in the .htaccess, so they will get like 8 different URLs for every single post (worst case). No surprise if they get banned.
                                                      EXCELLENT post

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                                                      • kektex
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                                                        • Mar 2005
                                                        • 1813

                                                        #28
                                                        It´s a good idea to rewrite your content as well as mix it with original content.
                                                        Duplicate content filters are not a myth.It sucks to have your whole site thrown in to supplemental hell.
                                                        If anyone is looking for a feed rewriter click here. I´ve been using it on a couple of sites now and so far it´s working great.
                                                        Sometimes the Markov outputs some hard to understand shit but in the end all you want is the surfer to click through.
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                                                        • webgeek
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Mar 2007
                                                          • 165

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by StarkReality
                                                          Yup, that's an effective way, write yourself and fill it with posts from feeds here and there.

                                                          Duplicate content doesn't mean you get banned, that's bullshit, it just means the page with duplicate content may rank worse. It only becomes a problem if all or most of the posts are from one single sponsor feed, and even then it rarely leads to a ban...it just ranks shitty.

                                                          Duplicate content on the same domain is by far more dangerous and since many people don't know how to get their templates and link structure setup correctly, 100% self written blogs are in danger as well. Why ? Because every post is indexed via 3 or 4 different URLs...and that's what hurts.

                                                          Many webmasters even let google grab www.domain.com and domain.com because they don't use 2 simple lines of code in the .htaccess, so they will get like 8 different URLs for every single post (worst case). No surprise if they get banned.
                                                          I mostly agree...
                                                          webgeek

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                                                          • tenderobject
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                                                            • Dec 2004
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by kektex
                                                            It´s a good idea to rewrite your content as well as mix it with original content.
                                                            Duplicate content filters are not a myth.It sucks to have your whole site thrown in to supplemental hell.
                                                            If anyone is looking for a feed rewriter click here. I´ve been using it on a couple of sites now and so far it´s working great.
                                                            Sometimes the Markov outputs some hard to understand shit but in the end all you want is the surfer to click through.
                                                            how do you re-write feeds before it is posted in your blogs?


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                                                            • webgeek
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                                                              • Mar 2007
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Jace
                                                              um...did you even read the article?
                                                              I've just finished.
                                                              webgeek

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                                                              • kektex
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                                                                • Mar 2005
                                                                • 1813

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by StarkReality

                                                                Duplicate content doesn't mean you get banned, that's bullshit, it just means the page with duplicate content may rank worse. It only becomes a problem if all or most of the posts are from one single sponsor feed, and even then it rarely leads to a ban...it just ranks shitty.
                                                                If you have the same content that 50 other sites have google will try to take a guess, using domain authority, as to what the original site might be.The rest just get thrown in to supplemental or they rank horribly.
                                                                Duplicate content filter is that: a filter.Your site wont get banned or penalized, it just wont rank.


                                                                Originally posted by StarkReality
                                                                Duplicate content on the same domain is by far more dangerous and since many people don't know how to get their templates and link structure setup correctly, 100% self written blogs are in danger as well. Why ? Because every post is indexed via 3 or 4 different URLs...and that's what hurts
                                                                Wordpress sucks at this.You have duplicate posts everywhere: on the archives, the category pages,tag pages,etc.
                                                                Again what happens here is that google just picks the version of the content that it thinks might be the original one on your site.
                                                                That happened to me on my first blog: all my domain.com/post/feed pages where getting indexed and the actual posts where nowhere to be found.
                                                                Learn to use robots.txt and NOINDEX
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                                                                • kektex
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                                                                  • Mar 2005
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by tenderobject
                                                                  how do you re-write feeds before it is posted in your blogs?
                                                                  The software does it using a Markov rewriter. It replaces some words with synonims and moves sentences,etc.
                                                                  Sometimes it outputs some gibberish but its an automated process and if you are running 10 blogs its a real time saver.
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                                                                  • munki
                                                                    Do Fun Shit.
                                                                    • Dec 2004
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by kektex
                                                                    The software does it using a Markov rewriter. It replaces some words with synonims and moves sentences,etc.
                                                                    Sometimes it outputs some gibberish but its an automated process and if you are running 10 blogs its a real time saver.


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                                                                    • webgeek
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Mar 2007
                                                                      • 165

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by kektex
                                                                      Wordpress sucks at this.You have duplicate posts everywhere: on the archives, the category pages,tag pages,etc.
                                                                      Again what happens here is that google just picks the version of the content that it thinks might be the original one on your site.
                                                                      That happened to me on my first blog: all my domain.com/post/feed pages where getting indexed and the actual posts where nowhere to be found.
                                                                      Learn to use robots.txt and NOINDEX
                                                                      here you are, how to do it.
                                                                      http://www.filination.com/tech/2007/...t-duplication/
                                                                      webgeek

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                                                                      • kektex
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                                                                        • Mar 2005
                                                                        • 1813

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by munki
                                                                        Heh, I dont understand that Kobe pic...

                                                                        More reading:
                                                                        WordPress And Google: Avoiding Duplicate Content Issues

                                                                        The Illustrated Guide to Duplicate Content in the Search Engines

                                                                        I've had like 20 SEO sites' feeds on my feed reader hehe...it takes like 1 hour every morning to go through them but it's totally worth it.
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                                                                        • kektex
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                                                                          • Mar 2005
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by webgeek
                                                                          Yeah I sorted it out like 3 months ago and the difference it makes is huge...anyone using wordpress read that site and the WMW thread I posted above.
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                                                                          • StarkReality
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                                                                            • May 2004
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by webgeek
                                                                            A first step, but there will still be alot of DC, a really easy and effective pulgin is Search Engine Management


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                                                                            • tenderobject
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              this thread is turning into a good thread keep on posting WP/blog/SE gurus and give the noobs some advice/tips etc!


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                                                                              • kektex
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                                                                                • Mar 2005
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Another important thing I forgot about WP that sucks SEO wise is that you have to check if your theme has the same meta description tag on all pages.
                                                                                Either write unique ones (which is the best solution) or dont use the description meta tag and let the bots decide the snippet of content they are going to use.
                                                                                The last solution is not good because (as I learnt the hard way) sometimes the designs might have, for example, your side menu text first.Then all your descriptions in your google serps will have the menu text in them.And a good description on the serps might be what gets the surfer clicking to your blog.

                                                                                I use this plugin that lets me write the meta description tag, or if I´m lazy it just takes the first sentences of the post for the description:
                                                                                http://guff.szub.net/2005/09/01/head-meta-description/
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                                                                                • Jace
                                                                                  FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                                  • 35562

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by kektex
                                                                                  Another important thing I forgot about WP that sucks SEO wise is that you have to check if your theme has the same meta description tag on all pages.
                                                                                  Either write unique ones (which is the best solution) or dont use the description meta tag and let the bots decide the snippet of content they are going to use.
                                                                                  The last solution is not good because (as I learnt the hard way) sometimes the designs might have, for example, your side menu text first.Then all your descriptions in your google serps will have the menu text in them.And a good description on the serps might be what gets the surfer clicking to your blog.

                                                                                  I use this plugin that lets me write the meta description tag, or if I´m lazy it just takes the first sentences of the post for the description:
                                                                                  http://guff.szub.net/2005/09/01/head-meta-description/
                                                                                  yup, I use the AutoMeta plugin, it fucking rocks

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                                                                                  • mattz
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                                                                                    • Dec 2001
                                                                                    • 7697

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by webgeek
                                                                                    When do the webmasters will understand ?
                                                                                    RSS syndication is going to ruin your business.
                                                                                    You're all grabbing the same RSS feeds again and again and posting it without any mofication. You're thinking you'll put the sign-ups to autopilot but all you'll get is a HUGE BAN FROM GOOGLE.

                                                                                    doesn't anyone hear about content duplication???

                                                                                    everyday at least 4-5 threads are asking for RSS feeds. you'll just ruin your business. it's redicilous...
                                                                                    lol thanks for a great laugh, rss feeds make me thousands a month

                                                                                    I've never once used a rss feed on any of my sites with not editing / rewriting them first

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                                                                                    • kektex
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                                                                                      • Mar 2005
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by mattz
                                                                                      lol thanks for a great laugh, rss feeds make me thousands a month

                                                                                      I've never once used a rss feed on any of my sites with not editing / rewriting them first
                                                                                      That´s the thing, webgeek is talking about the people that think they can throw up a blog with a bunch of feeds, then just sit back and watch the traffic roll in.
                                                                                      And google is getting smarter everyday, I´ve had rewritten articles getting thrown down to 30+ serps on some of my mainstream sites.
                                                                                      Check out this google patent on finding near duplicate content:
                                                                                      http://www.cs.umd.edu/~pugh/google/Duplicates.pdf
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                                                                                      • uno
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Jace
                                                                                        LOL...ever think that people use rss as a base content and re-write it before posting?

                                                                                        and let me just say one thing in regards to the duplicate content myth.....associated press....have any idea what they are and what they do? and the millions of sites that use them?
                                                                                        Why even waste your breath?
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                                                                                        • tenderobject
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          damn i need a tool that i can rewrite feeds before it get posted im using rss2anywhere for the feeds to get posted in my sites.. but can;t edit the feeds manually after i imported it in rss2anywhere


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                                                                                          • Zoose
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            I assume you guys talking about rewriting the content are doing this automatically somehow..? Otherwise why not just write your own posts? :confused

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                                                                                            • Jace
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Zoose
                                                                                              I assume you guys talking about rewriting the content are doing this automatically somehow..? Otherwise why not just write your own posts? :confused
                                                                                              the answer is in the thread

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                                                                                              • Zoose
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Tender, check out http://www.rssmagician.com/ . I haven't tried it but I would imagine the output is clunky at best.

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                                                                                                • uno
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Jace
                                                                                                  the answer is in the thread
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                                                                                                  • Zoose
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Jace
                                                                                                    the answer is in the thread
                                                                                                    The thing with rewriting using RSSMagician or any other content rewriter though, is if multiple people use the same script, then it puts you right back where you started, no? Multiple people throwing the same RSS feed through the same algorithm = duplicate content. I mean I'm sure the script is configurable but .. ugh. You might as well just import all dictionary words greater then 5 characters into a database, pull 10 at random and sprinkle in keywords

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