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Reak AGV · 03-19-2007, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

Just because webmasters in the past have tolerated this ongoing traffic leak, there is no reason it should be tolerated going forward. Quite simply, it is MY traffic, I should get paid for it, no matter what it does (at least up to any exit consoles).

It is a low percentage number, but what does it hurt the program to have it coded with my affiliate link? To me that would just show a program working hard to make sure everything is 100% for their affiliates.

Alex, it's been going on for ages just like you said. Im confident that almost any of the programs you promote have the same traffic leaks you bashing other programs in this thread for. The programs that always pay on time, track stats honestly and so on. What would be bad if like i said before, you can make a affiliate sale dissapear by changing the link or url, or that a 404 ends up with a exit chain of 5. That would make a program not ''clean'' in my eyes.

jayeff · 03-19-2007, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

Anyway, so who is on your shitlist?

If I wanted to produce a "sh*tlist", I would simply have added to an existing thread. I'm not trolling for post-count, sig-views or whatever, so I have no reason to open new threads to cover the same ground as topics already open. And if I had wanted to start a thread about traffic leaks from tours, I would have come right out and said so.

I thought my opening post was fairly clear. Lots of sponsors have rightly been taking a pasting lately on a variety of fronts (and plenty more probably are just as bad). Which sponsors are "clean"?

I'm not exactly shy about stating my opinions, so it's a fairly safe bet that what I write is what I mean. I have said three times now that we shouldn't settle for 99%, but I guess I was hoping for a fairly positive thread for a change and I do have a hard time getting energized about sponsors who almost have it right, when so many others are deliberately (in some cases) going out of their way to screw us and/or surfers across a whole range of issues. That's it...

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Redmanthatcould · 03-19-2007, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by thehand

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_Rush_ · 03-19-2007, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by VS_Jeff

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RawAlex · 03-19-2007, 01:06 PM

jayeff, so why not have a thread called "sponsors that are somewhat close to clean"?

The reasons we are in such a fucked up position now with many sponsors taking huge advantage of affiliate traffic is because for too long we all made enough money to tolerate the bullshit. But with conversion rates dropping like stones, more and more of us are getting concerned about what is happening with our traffic - ALL OF IT. That includes every link on the tour page.

I wasn't trying to beat on programs that are already pretty good, but I was taking exception to some who say "we are clean" yet I could easily find leaks right on page one of their tours. "relatively clean", yes... but clean, well... no.

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Jakke PNG · 03-19-2007, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

I wasn't trying to beat on programs that are already pretty good, but I was taking exception to some who say "we are clean" yet I could easily find leaks right on page one of their tours. "relatively clean", yes... but clean, well... no.

Your idea of 'relatively clean' isn't what mine is. In order to call my tour NOT clean would mean that the surfer would have to go through my webmasters link, NOT click on enter, but the webmasters link again, and then sign-up to become a webmaster for you to lose that customer. In ALL other scenarios you'd still be credited with the sale.. in essence you would be credited for the SALE no matter what. You're being way way too strict with your idea of 'clean'.

anne · 03-19-2007, 02:20 PM

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RawAlex · 03-19-2007, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

Your idea of 'relatively clean' isn't what mine is. In order to call my tour NOT clean would mean that the surfer would have to go through my webmasters link, NOT click on enter, but the webmasters link again, and then sign-up to become a webmaster for you to lose that customer. In ALL other scenarios you'd still be credited with the sale.. in essence you would be credited for the SALE no matter what. You're being way way too strict with your idea of 'clean'.

If I am not getting paid for webmaster referals, why is that link on the page? If you get a new webmaster and he makes you 10k next year, are you going to reward me for finding him? Nope. So therefore, it is a leak.

How hard is it to understand that a leak is a leak, regardless of how little you think it is.

RawAlex · 03-19-2007, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by darling2

KM Bucks is 100% clean and we use NATS to track our traffic.

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I didn't look too closely but I will give credit where it is due: The affiliate code is on every link and on every item on that page. On that alone, you are ahead of most.

martinsc · 03-19-2007, 10:55 PM

this thread needs more clean sponsors...

p1mpdogg · 03-19-2007, 11:25 PM

this guy is just too strict like teengodfather said.

calling my kiddie porn and adult surfer links to report kp as traffic leaks? give me a fukin break lol

get a clue man

RawAlex · 03-19-2007, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by p1mpdogg

this guy is just too strict like teengodfather said.

calling my kiddie porn and adult surfer links to report kp as traffic leaks? give me a fukin break lol

get a clue man

Get a clue yourself. All you have to do is make them open in a new window, and they aren't leaks anymore (because the tour remains). They are VERY VERY small leaks, but there is no reason to give your affiliate traffic any way to leave that makes them not spend money.

Plus, there is no reason to have a KP reporting link on your site, unless you are selling KP. Think about it.

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