Okay. So you researched it. :)
Sorry you didn't find the same sites as me.. sorry you didn't read into it the way I did.. and sorry you don't feel the way that I do.

That doesn't mean that other people won't...
Or it might help open someone's eyes as far as this administration is concerned.. and if that happens.. I'm happy :)

all the bigger shame.

Shaming me?
Fun fun.
Wanna spank me next?

I'll even wear my Obama 08 T-shirt so you can really get me.

I know everything you know about the subject. I can, and have, argued this subject on many levels: informationally, logically, scientifically, psychologically, etc. The argument has now almost taken on a theological angle involving 'belief systems'. Unfortunately, belief systems have nothing to do with what happened - there is only 1 set of events that occured that day and you can either accept the realities of that day or wander down a path of paranoid sociopathy - I guess you've chosen the latter.

I dont really give a flying rats ass about US politics (im not american). It is the politicization these topics that cloud rational and logical thinking ability.

there's me and then there's people who don't know the truth.
there are factual links that I research and there are conspiracy sites that you take for fact.

You know, repeating the term "...ugly trail" won't make it true. Even though repetition is the simplest and most widely known indoctornation tactic.

Great you researched it..
And great you felt a different way.

Doesn't mean I can't come on here and state my opinion as well...

And as far as the so called paranoid sociopathy... Really unless you're an apathetic person in all respects of life.. we all have aspects of paranoid sociopathy about different things.. so again, that doesn't offend me all that much that you'd call me that.

C'est La Vie.
No one is going to think just like anyone else...
And all one can ask is that people spend time researching and educating.. and if interpretation on that research and education is different.. so be it.

I'm well aware of what are conspiracy driven sites.. and what are fact sites. I'm highly aware of the fact that different elements of "journalism" and "fake science" exist out there...
AND alot of thos conspiracy theorist sites really put a radical spin on alot of things..

That's why you just have to keep plugging at it... and look at things in what I deem to be a rational light..
You may not deem it to be a rational light.. and that's okay :)

you shame yourself. if you want to spank yourself, have fun. I'm merely embarrassed for you.

It'll be okay.
I swear.

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

it has nothing to do with feeling.

you don't "feel" right. you either are or are not. Just like you were not right about Dick Cheney and his comments.

Just to be clear, I didnt call you a paranoid sociopath - what I did say was that on this topic it is very easy to slip down that path.

I understand what you mean about research, information, analysis, interpretation, etc - these are all lofty pursuits. I also fully understand how two people can arrive at two different interpretations of things.

These kinds of things are fine - when dealing with the abstact (art, conceptual sciences, philosophy). So, if you want to speak of 9/11 in a philisophical or revisionist-history kind of way - then fine, that is a different discussion.

But, to engage in irrational, illogical discussions about reality- where the premises of arguments are factless assumptions or postdictive theories.. this is NOT a lofty pursuit - it is in fact a playground for masses.

did anyone post the video yet? I have it here on my computer, and I must say its a smoking gun if there ever was one.

ahhh post it?

I don't think it's a conspiracy. I think the real conspiracy is why the US government failed to act when they got the tips that this might, and will in a short time, happen.

I believe Rice just nodded saying "yes massa", put it in her desk nad went back to work trying to be the first black woman republican president.

Anyone with two brain cells would have taken intelligence that something like planes hitting the same buildings that have been targets before with some interest.

If that happened in Canada, the politician wouldn't be able to show their face on our streets.

R

Lets see it :2 cents:

you must be fun at parties

I'm not very good at Pictionary but I can hold my own at Charades. :Oh crap

this is hella old news

I didnt say it was impossible to fly a plane into the side of the Pentagon without hitting the ground first but I would like to hear a trained pilot say it WAS possible



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So you were the ONLY guy who saw a plane hit the Pentagon. when did you see that then ??? i saw the only footage the security forces released and all you see is a puff of fireball and something a frame of footage could not catch as it was moving too fast...

It would be interesting to do a calculation based on a camera frame speed at 25 frames per second and the speed of a jetliner at 4-500 MPH to see if that very large plane SHOULD have been caught on camera.



no i made it all up and your countries official version of events is all true...

only a retard would believe that

your assummtion of 25 frame / second video is amusing. most security camera footage is in the < 5 frames per second range. Also, a plane travelling at 500mph is 222 meters / second. So, given the field of view of the camera of about.. ohh.. less than 100 metres. A plane would pass through that camera's view is less than half a second.

just something to thing about. So unless the frame caught the EXACT moment of time when the plane was in it's field of view.. you wouldnt see much. But hey.. all this 'thinking' is making my brain hurt.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=C7SwOT29gbc

check out 9/11 in Plane Sight. it presents an interesting argument.

The building was brought down, it did not fall down neatly on it's own. Simple.

I remember hearing on 9/11/2001 that Building 7 was a controlled demolition.

I found video of madawgz or is this SNL?!
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zA1hyqA6UTY

you goddamn retarded fucking moron. What part about a simulator dont you understand? Its real! Pilots use those multi million dollar simulators to learn how to fly and to improve their skills!!! Fucking Nasa, Boeing and every other big company uses those things. What part dont you understand about it? Are you mentally challenged or what? Stop pissing me off you idiot.

Wow, really good arguments. You must be the smartest guy around here. Well done.

Fucking idiot. Kill yourself please.

Retard boy, did you even read my fucking post??? I can answer that for you. You didnt. You want arguments and facts, people give them for you and you are too fucking arrogant or too fucking retarded or both to fucking read them.

Go back a few pages and read what i said again. You really have no clue do you. Pathetic piece of shit. Please kill yourself as well. I dont want to breathe the same air as imbeciles as you.

"So you were the ONLY guy who saw a plane hit the Pentagon. when did you see that then ??? "

Where the fuck did you get this? Where? Please quote me you fucking retard.

Yeah, by the conspiracy nuts most likely.

I really dont understand why you conspiracy nuts dont understand why the rest of us have a hard time beliving you when you say stuff like "the greater the lie, the more people will belive" and then completely disregard any factuel evidence.

You do see the irony, right? :) It kinda looks like the whole "the greater the lie, the more people will belive" is your battle plan.

And btw, dont you mean Stalins old quote: "the more times a lie is told, the more people will belive it" ? Because that one makes sense, the other one is just wierd really. And illogical. Surely, "the lesser the lie, the more people will belive" makes more sense, since its less of a leap of faith to belive a tiny lie than a huge elaborate lie and thus more people are inclined to make that leap of faith (also because with a tiny lie, it probably dont really matter that much).

I can explain that one. You see, President Bush is a complete idiot that thinks you can read a book upside-down. I wouldnt even get in the same car as him if he was driving because I honestly think it wouldnt take long before he mistook the brakes for the speeder.

this is the pentagon...i think they have better security cameras then habib at the local corner store

dont think too hard about it..wouldnt want you to hurt your brain

Phoenix, retard, please show us ANY evidence that the government was behind 9/11.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

phoenix balls in your court, all you have to do is just come up with one peice of evidence.

can you do it?

FUCK YOU TWO..ANYTHING SHOWN TO YOU WILL BE DISMISSED.

I DID MY RESEARCH..WHY DONT YOU GO LOOK AROUND YOURSELVES INSTEAD OF BELIEVEING WHATEVER cnn FUCKIN SPOONFEEDS YOU

Evidence can't be dismissed or it wouldnt be evidence retard. So please show if any evidence. You must have tons after all your 'research'.

Phoenix, yoohoo, where's the evidence?

are you getting angry because your "theory" is just a shitty little theory and can be ripped through with logic, common sense and fact?

to be honest though i would rather watch a biased cnn, rather than a biassed google video made by some broke ass teenager desperate for cash :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

you two dont seserve an answer...especially a there have been many trotted before you over the years


swallow up the story dig your head in the sand and be happy

why bother with the truth..it is obviously too much for you to handle

You made that vid?