And the people that typed in the info on the video, are they also confused? It clearly says on the video that Building 7 collapsed.

I think that the reporters are "not" on it. As some people might suggest. I just think that the propaganda machine jumped the gun a bit early and reported to the reporters what they already new was going to happen.

Reporters are just going to read what they are told.

It also requires a tin foil hat, because no proof of demolition (such as the telltale puffs of smoke and the sounds of hundreds or thousands of demolition charges) exists --except in the pea brains of needle dick losers living in their parents' basements.

When it falls, its usually down.

Lol the illuminati! Guess what Im one of them and you have exposed us with your little GIF! ZOMG!

Do you understand what it takes to drop a building straight down? Drop a building so no other building around it gets damaged?

tsk..tsk..

They were all damaged.

how old were you on 9/11/2001?

it falls even faster when u make the GIF from less frames. amazing.

Hay, don't blame the messenger.

http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/wtc7stillthere.gif

So whats the point?????????????

They did a mistake like millions of others. Case closed.

But it does seem odd..I'm no structural engineer but having 3 huge concrete and steel buildings collapse due to fires does seem to defy logic...

If you don't have anything concrete to add to this thread then don't say anything...

People are speaking up but not a lot of people are listening...

I'll get to the not breathing part right after we get to the bottom of why #7 was pulled...

Sometimes the truth is harder to swallow than the lie..but to be free we have to know..we have to speak out...

Just to refresh your memory...do you remember the Oklahoma bombing?..do you remember the devastation the explosion wreaked on the facade??...BUT THE REST OF THE BUILDING WAS STILL STANDING after the smoke cleared!! Can you justify the huge hole in #7 with it's eventual collapse..just doesn't add up.

The Founding Fathers are probably spinning in their graves with what has happened to this beloved nation...Land of the Free??...The checks and balances you talk about are illusionary...just look at the last 2 elections...stolen by W and not a peep was heard...

Thanks for finding the video..good to see it as I thought the BBC had erased it from their archives..

$$$..couldn't have said it better myself!

Right on man! :thumbsup

Don't compare. I think you should read the NIST report:
http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/WTC%20Part%...se%20Final.pdf

If Bill Clinton was President these same right wing nuts would be singing a different tune. They investigated a 50k land deal for 6 fucking years. and impeached him for lying about a blow job.

Wrong.

The impeachable offenses were: perjury, subornation of perjury, filing a false affidavit, witness tampering, lying to a grand jury, abuse of power, etc..

The underlying issue is almost irrelevent. It could have been wiping his ass, a blow job, or even your mother.

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as you said, you are no structural engineer. so why do u keep commenting about how a building will react to fire/bombs etc. having a concrete and steel building fail due to fire does not defy logic at all. do you know the difference between steel and concrete and how they react to fire/heat ?

i dont know anything about the oklahoma building itself, but i can guarantee that its not structurally the same as the wtc buildings (so comparing different buildings to different events is really stupid. ie a bomb and a fire are incredibly different). if the bomb devastated the facade and the rest of the building was still standing, then obviously the main structural elements werent at the facade of the building (which is how such buildings are built most of the time)

Lol you are a fruitcake this is a thread about 9/11 not Monica Lewinsky.

Not sure why you assume such a sarcastic attitude towards me, when I didn't claim in my post to be versed in structural engineering, nor an expert in demolitions (as if that is required for the points which I posited).

If you wish to respond to the points I raised directly, here is what I wrote again, point by point:

Why, in a supposedly comprehensive report, is this pretty significant event - the collapse of a 47-story building, totally ignored?

Did a 767 aircraft laden with fuel crash into WTC 7? I think we can all agree, no that did not happen. There have been many other tall buildings made of steel with far more significant fires, that did not collapse.

Please show me an example of another steel reinforced building that has collapsed in the same manner as WTC 7 as a result of fire.

If WTC 7 collapsed primarily as a result of structural failure to one side of it (or a combination of that and a fire at the same levels as the structural failure), then it would stand to reason that it would collapse in the direction of the weakness.

Do a Google image search of "building collapse", and you'll see what I mean when the example features a building that collapsed as a result of damage to a particular face of the structure.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, nor do I proclaim to have absolute answers to what happened in this instance. I've simply read accounts and watched videos by experts and kooks on both sides of this issue. No one has absolutely convinced me one way or the other.

Therefore, don't be so quick to condemn me simply for asking/raising questions.

If you accept the Bush Administration argument that the U.S. had to invade Iraq and overthrow Saddam Hussein due to the overwhelming evidence of WMDs, even though this was ultimately proven to be false, then I assume it will be impossible for you to question anything that is fed to you by the media manipulators representing similar positions on 9/11 or other issues, even though you decry people on the other side who even so much as question what happened.

One thing I do understand is PsyOp (Psychological Operations), in which extremist fringe elements (straw man tin foil puppets) are sometimes created in order to easily be discredited, drawing attention away from actual experts that have less sensational but more compelling arguments that challenge the staus quo.

The U.S. government/military would never engage in psychological ops though, would they?

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You are a rush limpballs and fox news consuming sheep. If BC was on board you nuts would be questioning it all.

So you must think Bush is a fucking genius to pull something like this off right?

And I just think you are an idiot. That's fair, isn't it?

Again, unless you are old enough to remember the day, you really should just shut up and stop making yourself look as dumb as maddawgz.

They type what is reported to them, the reported isn't reading what is scrolling across the screen.

There were a lot of misreported "facts" that day.

I remember specifically a reporter announcing that a US Army helicopter hit the Pentagon.

The problem is that everyone wanted to be the first to report a breaking story, and fact checking was exactly a priority that day.

There were a lot of reports that were taken back an hour or so later.

i thought building 7 was blown on purpose and that it was planned and had nothing to do with the attacks?

..perhaps also 18 USC 241 & 242 "Conspiracy to deny civil rights" for the effort of the chief law enforcement officer of this country (and his cronies) to deny a woman, Paula Jones, a fair trial.

Yea, one building was demo'ed as I recall.

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Once again, underachieving, insecure, chronically paraniod and irretrievably delusional pornographers gathered on Monday to construct insanely complex conspiracy theories from simple, easily explainable events. "What we are seeing is a growing trend where places like GFY, Warcraft and Second Life continue to play a larger and larger role in offering refuge to the socially retarded, delusional and the clinically paranoid, burger flippers turned gallery builders of the world" said one webmaster. He continued, "as the world becomes more tech savy, the worlds geeks and idiots have abandoned computer terminology, lingo and jargon as a means of putting others down, having found that furiously inventing and debating online conspiracy theories is a much better method for convincing themselves of their own superiority over others and building their own self image and self confidence... afterall, you can't disprove a negative so its 100% safe and effective. Particularly when you can just claim every fact that refutes previous facts is also part of a wider conspiracy".

"Well yeah, there's a problem with all this 9/11 conspiracy stuff" said the owner of twicefuckedteendonkeys.com, "and thats that we have to simultaneously argue that President Bush is an evil genius ruling the galaxy and one of the dumbest human beings in existence. "Its a conundrum for sure, But Hey" he exclaimed with great confidence and enthusiasm, "The great part about conspiracy theories is that you always have an out. Conspiracy theories are safe.. so when the subject of President Bush being a total retard, we can just retreat to the "illuminati" and wider global conspiracies and you can just continue on acting like everyones an idiot for not knowing that".....

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MORONS DEBATING FURIOUSLY ABOUT MORONIC SHIT ON GOFUCKYOURSELF.COM - STILL MORONS IN THE END

Monday, Feb 26. The Interweb

Once again, underachieving, insecure, chronically paraniod and irretrievably delusional pornographers gathered on Monday to construct insanely complex conspiracy theories from simple, easily explainable events. "What we are seeing is a growing trend where places like GFY, Warcraft and Second Life continue to play a larger and larger role in offering refuge to the socially retarded, delusional and the clinically paranoid, burger flippers turned gallery builders of the world" said one webmaster. He continued, "as the world becomes more tech savy, the worlds geeks and idiots have abandoned computer terminology, lingo and jargon as a means of putting others down, having found that furiously inventing and debating online conspiracy theories is a much better method for convincing themselves of their own superiority over others and building their own self image and self confidence... afterall, you can't disprove a negative so its 100% safe and effective. Particularly when you can just claim every fact that refutes previous facts is also part of a wider conspiracy".

"Well yeah, there's a problem with all this 9/11 conspiracy stuff" said the owner of twicefuckedteendonkeys.com, "and thats that we have to simultaneously argue that President Bush is an evil genius ruling the galaxy and one of the dumbest human beings in existence. "Its a conundrum for sure, But Hey" he exclaimed with great confidence and enthusiasm, "The great part about conspiracy theories is that you always have an out. Conspiracy theories are safe.. so when the subject of President Bush being a total retard, we can just retreat to the "illuminati" and wider global conspiracies and you can just continue on acting like everyones an idiot for not knowing that".....

Martin what do you do, if we can do some biz hit me up. :thumbsup

Since you won't respond to the pertinent questions I raised to you in response to your post about my earlier post, then answer this question, what is it exactly (if anything) that you do in the adult biz, Pleasurepays?

I see no adult biz sig, and only a hotmail addy...please don't pussy out like Splum - let's hear what you do.

Or perhaps you can "tell us more about YOUR experience and qualifications as a structural engineer and demolitions expert. we're all ears. i am sure we can learn a lot." :winkwink:

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Building 7 is so suspicious even conspiracy-haters gotta scratch their heads, i'll admit that.

To say anything else just wouldn't be true.

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You total fucking moron. Please shut the fuck up and come back when you know have a clue. Fucking idiot.

I have had only contempt and distrust for George Bush since long before 9/11. And since nothing is impossible, it has to be possible that those plane hi-jackings were either an inside job or at least facilitated. Pearl Harbor provides a potential precedent both for near wilful unpreparedness and for Washington having information which - by accident or design - was withheld from the people who could have used it.

But if only because I do not want to believe that any US president would stoop so low, I do not believe 9/11 itself was part of a government or neocon conspiracy. What I do believe is that reactions to the events of that day have been cynically manipulated ever since, to allow the White House to pursue policies which would have had little or no support otherwise.

There are simply too many inconsistencies and coincidences, beginning with the near immediate announcement of who was the mastermind behind the attacks. That April we had finally admitted defeat in attempting to negotiate with the Taliban about an oil pipeline through Afghanistan. In the summer we began troop build-ups in the Mediterranean ahead of an attack on Afghanistan. How obliging was it for someone supposedly hidden out in that very country, to attack us first?

Because the point is that without 9/11 most Americans would never have heard of Afghanistan or Al Qaida. Certainly both had made the news before, but not the kind of news to which the majority of Americans pay any attention or care about. And in more rational times, we would surely have questioned the reasonableness of invading a country because its administration were no more capable of dislodging an unsavory character than the Russians had been. 5+ years later, we have fared no better and yet our troops are still there with hardly anyone asking why.

The Patriot Act was the same. Already drafted years earlier, it was quickly pushed into law on a tide of emotion, voted on without being read. This act has far more potential to restrict our own civil liberties than it has to protect us against terrorism and in other circumstances it would have been a political liability.

And so on. Almost every aspect of George Bush's foreign policy has been sold to the American public by beating the 9/11 drum. That goes for much of his domestic program as well: 9/11 has frequently been used to distract from its many flaws.

Yet 5½ years on, the man allegedly behind 9/11 is still at large and many would argue it has never been proved that Bin Laden was in fact responsible. Our troops are embroiled, for the most spurious of reasons, in two foreign countries with a death toll that even on our side is now in the same ball park as the number killed in the World Trade Center. Tens of thousands of people who in no shape or form had anything whatever to do with the events of that day are dead or have had their lives ruined. And no end is in sight.

Whatever the truth of 9/11, this has not been a glorious chapter in US history.

different nut, same tree.

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Your profundity is as lacking as your responses are predictable.