True the towers were built towith stand a plane hitting them.

but not planes travelling at the speed and angles of the planes that hit.

a normal plane would have been going very, very slow and level and probably taken out 1/2 floors at most.

but you could see from the angle of when the 2nd plane his that it was going to make a lot of verticle damage.

Thats why the building fell idiot craigant01, because a huge fucking plane hit it at a bad angle, on purpose by the terrorists.

Because people needed to die before America "woke up"

just like they needed pearl harbour to get the US into WW2

how the fuck they are going to get away with Iran i have no idea. But i suspect most will all fall for the lies again

by pilots who had NEVER flown planes as big as that. ??? and another pilot so experienced he could fly and hit the pentagon (not a tall building) without touching the ground at all first

Some fucking pilots !!!

wanna define "weak" does that include everyone who isnt a knucklehead white trash nazi

you could be saved from embarrassment with the invention of a mental mirror.
lacking that, you nut jobs never see yourself as the rest of us see you. The invention of the internet has only given your kind a place to gather and the appearence of not being a lone nut.

tell us, brainiac, what do you do for a living?

I have been expressing my opinions for 40-odd years. I have even been paid for them. I couldn't care less whether I'm a lone voice, or if I'm saying the same thing as millions of others. A lot of the time I have more questions than answers and I'm not greatly concerned whether or not I am proved to be right. Often there is no wrong or right and often it isn't hard to argue opposing points of view.

So your insults are wasted and serve only to remind me that if I could not manage a response which had a little more originality and imagination than could be demonstrated by an uneducated 13-year-old, I hope I would then have the sense to say nothing at all.

wow...you governement puppets in here really stick together.

tell me..do you have monthly meetings at 12 clicks' tralier park on how to be ignorant and look over/ignore things that are glaringly obvious to even a child?

Does it take practice to be so obtuse?

what do you hope to gain by your blind obedience to a regime that wants o end your way of living?

All you fucking Physics experts in here claiming this or that...but not one of you has a physics degree..and your reasoning is copied straight from someone elses work.

This is marvelous

coming from cambridge i would expect you to have more common sense!
but you probably one of those hippies who hangs around in the park all year and only waits for strawberry fair to come, nah just kidding :thumbsup

im no very little about planes, but im sure the process into flying one plane is very similar to flying another aircraft.

like the switch over from car to lorry. lorry has more controls, but one off the basics are still very much there. you can still do the basics.

remember these pilots also planned for this for i think 2 years. they had aircraft lessons. and do you think during those 2 years they didnt pull out a book on how to fly the big airliners, or something similar. they would have been doing mountains of research.

Im sure that once the pilot learnt to fly a plane, learning the step up to a bigger plane just for a one of flight would be very possible indeed.

its not as if they had one lesson and thought lets go commit 9/11, im all unprepared.

i mean come on, america blowing up its own pentagon :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
just say it to yourself.

im 100% sure that all your "knowledge" has come from biased google videos.

open your eyes, see through the bias, see there are 2 sides to the story and 1 side overwhelmes the other, with a motive, confession and ideology.


in theory your conspiracy may work, in practise it hasnt a hope in hell.

Idiot, i saw on Dutch television how the let normal people like you and me fly in a simulator with a similar jet as the one that crashed in the Pentagon. And they managed to do exactly what the terrorists did.

Now please shut the fuck up about stuff you dont know about. All you conspiracy nuts come with half assed theories you found one some idiot nutjob site and blindly follow it. Pathetic.

The whole point of theories like "building 7 was demolished" and the "no plane hit the Pentagon" or the "remote controlled planes were used" are designed to ensure that the debate about 9/11 centres around pointless and improvable theories and counter theories, rather than examining the actual events, and the veracity of the actual reported, and recorded, evidence presented by the US government and it's own investigations into those events.

"The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum - even encourage the more critical and dissident views. That gives people the sense that there's free thinking going on, while all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by the limits put on the range of the debate."

- Noam Chomsky

i use my math degree to look at the facts

FACT: BUsh mafia was about to go down
FACT: several offices ni building 7 were investigating them and collecting evidence on SEC violations involving them and some other people now for years.
FACT: buildings dont fall straight down on themselves unless they are forced to.
FACT: the buildings fell at g
FACT: bomb sniffing dogs were taken out of the WTC buildings about 6 months before they came down
FACT: huge sections of th ose buildings were shut down to all personell except private security and construction firms once the bomb sniffing dogs were out.

IT goes on and on.

This plan needs people to think it is ridiculous...they need them to think..no way they would kill their own people....no way they woul send a rocket into their own pentagon....blah blah..it is all bullshit...you are not dealing with people think the same way we do.

anyone in here...claiming to know all without doing an actual investigation themselves..is the real idiot.

another conspiracy theory?

Retard boy, are these the same FACTS as that hole in the pentagon in a wall on the INSIDE of the building that was the entry hole from the 'missile' according to you? Your number one evidence and 100% prove it was a missile untill you found out it was on the inside of the building and not the outside? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

wait..you still clinging to a pic?

Is that your whole argument?

why because you have nothing else to offer?

makes life easy, eh?:1orglaugh

Mork calling Orson
come in Orson

After that thread why would anyone want to take you serious? Do i need to spell it out AGAIN? Your #1 evidence it was a missile turned out to a hole on the INSIDE of the building from debris. You looked and still do like a huge fucking retard. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

And why? Because one conspiracy nut said it was a hole from a missile you and 1000's of other MORONS simply repeated those words. Pathetic. Pathetic bunch of losers.

So honestly, your new 'facts' why would ANYONE take those seriously? You turned out to be a total moron. You made a huge error. We have to think you wont do that again? :1orglaugh

ah...the ole ignore and try to ridicule

makes it easy when you really dont have anything to say right?

i remember that...getting into debates with people in high school..id use logic and wit...they are left with nothing..so they resort to name calling

you are cute...like an old man who is still at the high school mentality

And funny how suddenly one pics means nothing to you while 1 or 2 years ago that one pic was your top piece of evidence 9/11 was a conspiracy. Once again you show what pathetic punk ass loser you are who just makes shit up when it sounds interesting.

hey moron..a plane or a missile..who fucking cares..there was stilla big hole there...wtf are you going on about?

stop smoking so much cock

listen here loser...you called that pic up to be the piece of eveidence

i agreed with you because you said that is where it was from..thenyou later said...nope it is on the inside and ran around screaming bloody murder

you and 12 clicks should get together

you misunderstand. I'm not ignoringing you, I'm just flat out ridiculing you.

you have nothing backing up your facts. If you had any sense, you'd be embarrassed to post your "facts" and if your boss had a clue, he wouldn't allow you to post on boards and make a fool of yourself.



its amazing how foriegn halfwits always have the US all figured out.
:1orglaugh

FACT: there is NO evidence that 9/11 was caused by the americans. None nada nil.

the conspiracy theorists only have theories that can be explained through logical reasoning.
there will indeed be a logical reason to why bomb sniffer dogs were removed 6 months previously. and logical reasons or mistakes to any other bullshit they come up with.

Just look at the loose change guy. broke and out, he had fuck all in life. he only just managed to buy a laptop.

look at him now, must be rolling in it.

FAct: all evidence including the smoking debris that generals on the ground said smelt like Cordite was shipped away with no investigation at all being done.

ZERO

so how the fuck can you claim anything?


Truthfully..i dont fuckin care.
if you guys want to close your eyes and make believe you know who is runnig your lives..then so be it.

fuck this bullshit

not going to get on the ground and argue with a bunch of half wits

It must be terribly frustrating to be so passionate about something you have absolutely no control over.

There was a lot of bad reporting that morning. Things were hetic and confusing.

I remember that once the FAA ordered all planes across the country to land, there was four more planes they were "unable to reach". CNN reported it for nearly an hour, if only on their little ticker scrolling the screen. I'm really surprised no one else has ever mentioned this.

and no clue about.:1orglaugh

yes it is

and i should just stop

i mean.where was the investigation?
lets check out the smoking debris from the buildings.

why not address the issues?
yes Bush family was being investigated..but dont worry...there are backups at other locations..so they had nothing to gain.

i mean lets take out the facts that point fingers

then i will relax..until then....we all need to watch our backs

Bush had the aliens take those 4 planes into space when he discovered the first 4 did what was needed. He then paid off the people's families to keep quiet.

Those poor souls remain in alien zoos even now.

as usual...loud voice in the back coming from the class clown

I think you missed my point. Call it apathy,but when I was a young man during the Vietnam war I demonstrated vigorously I was teargassed at the capital mall in DC. We really thought our efforts were going to make a difference. It didn't then and it won't now.
You can look back in US history at almost every major event that has occured and you will find a conspiracy looming somewhere. At the end of the day,the people in power will do what they think is best..hopefully it coincides with the needs of the majority. I know that overall, I live better today than I did in the 70's,80's and 90's and so do a large majority.

Nixon couldn't get away with a two bit robbery at the Watergate hotel.

Bill Clinton couldn't even get away with getting his dick sucked in the oval office.

So do you idiots really think the Bush administration could get away with a massive world wide conspiracy to kill their own citizens?:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Screw you and your logic ;)

I think obtuse is your favorite "look at me, I went to university" word. I can understand how your mind works - I have a math degree too and sometimes the mind wanders. But it is sad when an obviously gifted mind loses grasp on reality and becomes the 'puppet' (only of different masters) he so often derides.

I only say this "A mind is a terrible thing to waste" and you waste it every day by deluding yourself with the books you read and the brain-garbage you promote.

better the class clown in the back than the moron yelling "facts" from the playground.

bush is an evil genius except when he's a stupid monkey.

:1orglaugh

Its really funny to me how the guys who think the whole 911 thing stinks put up reasonable arguments and the guys who want to believe the "official" line always resort to name calling and aggression

put up a decent argument in defence of your government.....

Oh so they flew a simulator into the towers.... what kind of fucking reasoned argument is that

i will shut the fuck up but what do you know about what i know....

put up a reasonable argument and back it up... how you can blindly believe what your government tells you and say everyone else is a nutjob...makes you a........nutjob