Originally Posted by PSSuperstars (Post 11981767)

Great you researched it..
And great you felt a different way.

Originally Posted by PSSuperstars (Post 11981767)

Great you researched it..
And great you felt a different way.

Doesn't mean I can't come on here and state my opinion as well...

And as far as the so called paranoid sociopathy... Really unless you're an apathetic person in all respects of life.. we all have aspects of paranoid sociopathy about different things.. so again, that doesn't offend me all that much that you'd call me that.

C'est La Vie.
No one is going to think just like anyone else...
And all one can ask is that people spend time researching and educating.. and if interpretation on that research and education is different.. so be it.

Originally Posted by kandah (Post 11981921)

did anyone post the video yet? I have it here on my computer, and I must say its a smoking gun if there ever was one.

Originally Posted by kandah (Post 11981921)

did anyone post the video yet? I have it here on my computer, and I must say its a smoking gun if there ever was one.

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 11981664)

Why would I ignore you? It's fun to watch you spin your crazy web of nonsense. It's at least entertaining. No we probably wouldn't get along well in person because I'm fond of telling people like you to shut the fuck up.

Don't like pitbulls and I have 3 Rottweilers. Nicest dogs you'd ever meet, even though some of them were rescued from shelters. I'm not surprised you wouldn't know much about the breed and are probably frightened by them, it hardly ever comes up on the democratic underground.:2 cents:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 11981994)

you must be fun at parties

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11977911)

if you made a list of the errors and mistakes that were made that day by reporters, it would crash this server. doesn't prove anything other than the fact that people were reporting on total chaos.

:disgust :disgust

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 11981719)

Idiot, please respond to my post.

You without any proof make statements like its for an untrained pilot not possible to fly into the Pentagon without hitting the ground etc. without backing this up..

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 11981719)

Then i tell you it is possible as ive seen it with my own eyes and you just laugh and say what kind of argument is that..

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 11981719)

So exactly is your made up argument valid and my based on facts argument stupid? Please explain retard. I really love to hear an explanation.

Originally Posted by xcitecash (Post 11982408)

It would be interesting to do a calculation based on a camera frame speed at 25 frames per second and the speed of a jetliner at 4-500 MPH to see if that very large plane SHOULD have been caught on camera.

Originally Posted by kandah (Post 11981921)

did anyone post the video yet? I have it here on my computer, and I must say its a smoking gun if there ever was one.

Originally Posted by pimpporn (Post 11977650)

Foil Hat Alert :warning

Originally Posted by xcitecash (Post 11982408)

I didnt say it was impossible to fly a plane into the side of the Pentagon without hitting the ground first but I would like to hear a trained pilot say it WAS possible



..

So you were the ONLY guy who saw a plane hit the Pentagon. when did you see that then ??? i saw the only footage the security forces released and all you see is a puff of fireball and something a frame of footage could not catch as it was moving too fast...

It would be interesting to do a calculation based on a camera frame speed at 25 frames per second and the speed of a jetliner at 4-500 MPH to see if that very large plane SHOULD have been caught on camera.





no i made it all up and your countries official version of events is all true...

only a retard would believe that

Originally Posted by huey (Post 11982639)

The building was brought down, it did not fall down neatly on it's own. Simple.

Originally Posted by xcitecash (Post 11982408)

I didnt say it was impossible to fly a plane into the side of the Pentagon without hitting the ground first but I would like to hear a trained pilot say it WAS possible

So you were the ONLY guy who saw a plane hit the Pentagon. when did you see that then ??? i saw the only footage the security forces released and all you see is a puff of fireball and something a frame of footage could not catch as it was moving too fast...

Originally Posted by madawgz (Post 11978117)

What gives you the right to say I don't have a heart...I knew someone who died in the Towers...
Open your eyes and look at the facts...you're being lied to...

Originally Posted by madawgz (Post 11978117)

There is a clip of President Bush quoted as saying that he watched on CNN the first plane hit BEFORE he entered the classroom...how is that possible?.. did he have advance knowledge of the attack?

Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve (Post 11982500)

your assummtion of 25 frame / second video is amusing. most security camera footage is in the < 5 frames per second range. Also, a plane travelling at 500mph is 222 meters / second. So, given the field of view of the camera of about.. ohh.. less than 100 metres. A plane would pass through that camera's view is less than half a second.

just something to thing about. So unless the frame caught the EXACT moment of time when the plane was in it's field of view.. you wouldnt see much. But hey.. all this 'thinking' is making my brain hurt.

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 11993201)

Phoenix, retard, please show us ANY evidence that the government was behind 9/11.

Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 11993242)

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

phoenix balls in your court, all you have to do is just come up with one peice of evidence.

can you do it?

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 11993248)

FUCK YOU TWO..ANYTHING SHOWN TO YOU WILL BE DISMISSED.

I DID MY RESEARCH..WHY DONT YOU GO LOOK AROUND YOURSELVES INSTEAD OF BELIEVEING WHATEVER cnn FUCKIN SPOONFEEDS YOU

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 11993248)

FUCK YOU TWO..ANYTHING SHOWN TO YOU WILL BE DISMISSED.

I DID MY RESEARCH..WHY DONT YOU GO LOOK AROUND YOURSELVES INSTEAD OF BELIEVEING WHATEVER cnn FUCKIN SPOONFEEDS YOU

Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 11993363)

Some broke ass teenager desperate for cash :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 11993369)

You made that vid?

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 11993136)

you goddamn retarded fucking moron. What part about a simulator dont you understand? Its real! Pilots use those multi million dollar simulators to learn how to fly and to improve their skills!!! Fucking Nasa, Boeing and every other big company uses those things. What part dont you understand about it? Are you mentally challenged or what? Stop pissing me off you idiot.

Originally Posted by xcitecash (Post 11993517)

Your going to have a heart attack silly ....calm yourself

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 11977953)

You stupid fucking moron. You and the 1000's of idiots who keep using this as some kind of evidence.

Maybe a HUGE FUCKING PLANE entered the building before there was a fire???

Have you got any idea how much damage that plane did to the building?

God, you are pathetic.

What kind of fucking argument is this exactly? A fire?? How can you and all those other lunatics simply ignore that a huge plane took a few floors down. Including the steel and concrete?

You just think lets ignore it or the fire story wont make sense or what???

The next person who comes with this fire bullshit should be punched in the face. Fucking retards.

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 11979580)

Not sure why you assume such a sarcastic attitude towards me, when I didn't claim in my post to be versed in structural engineering, nor an expert in demolitions (as if that is required for the points which I posited).

If you wish to respond to the points I raised directly, here is what I wrote again, point by point:



Why, in a supposedly comprehensive report, is this pretty significant event - the collapse of a 47-story building, totally ignored?



Did a 767 aircraft laden with fuel crash into WTC 7? I think we can all agree, no that did not happen. There have been many other tall buildings made of steel with far more significant fires, that did not collapse.

Please show me an example of another steel reinforced building that has collapsed in the same manner as WTC 7 as a result of fire.



If WTC 7 collapsed primarily as a result of structural failure to one side of it (or a combination of that and a fire at the same levels as the structural failure), then it would stand to reason that it would collapse in the direction of the weakness.

Do a Google image search of "building collapse", and you'll see what I mean when the example features a building that collapsed as a result of damage to a particular face of the structure.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, nor do I proclaim to have absolute answers to what happened in this instance. I've simply read accounts and watched videos by experts and kooks on both sides of this issue. No one has absolutely convinced me one way or the other.

Therefore, don't be so quick to condemn me simply for asking/raising questions.

If you accept the Bush Administration argument that the U.S. had to invade Iraq and overthrow Saddam Hussein due to the overwhelming evidence of WMDs, even though this was ultimately proven to be false, then I assume it will be impossible for you to question anything that is fed to you by the media manipulators representing similar positions on 9/11 or other issues, even though you decry people on the other side who even so much as question what happened.

One thing I do understand is PsyOp (Psychological Operations), in which extremist fringe elements (straw man tin foil puppets) are sometimes created in order to easily be discredited, drawing attention away from actual experts that have less sensational but more compelling arguments that challenge the staus quo.

The U.S. government/military would never engage in psychological ops though, would they?

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 11993138)

Wow, really good arguments. You must be the smartest guy around here. Well done.

Fucking idiot. Kill yourself please.

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 11979737)

The problem is that everyone wanted to be the first to report a breaking story, and fact checking was exactly a priority that day.

There were a lot of reports that were taken back an hour or so later.

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11979854)

BREAKING NEWS



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Monday, Feb 26. The Interweb

Once again, underachieving, insecure, chronically paraniod and irretrievably delusional pornographers gathered on Monday to construct insanely complex conspiracy theories from simple, easily explainable events. "What we are seeing is a growing trend where places like GFY, Warcraft and Second Life continue to play a larger and larger role in offering refuge to the socially retarded, delusional and the clinically paranoid, burger flippers turned gallery builders of the world" said one webmaster. He continued, "as the world becomes more tech savy, the worlds geeks and idiots have abandoned computer terminology, lingo and jargon as a means of putting others down, having found that furiously inventing and debating online conspiracy theories is a much better method for convincing themselves of their own superiority over others and building their own self image and self confidence... afterall, you can't disprove a negative so its 100% safe and effective. Particularly when you can just claim every fact that refutes previous facts is also part of a wider conspiracy".

"Well yeah, there's a problem with all this 9/11 conspiracy stuff" said the owner of twicefuckedteendonkeys.com, "and thats that we have to simultaneously argue that President Bush is an evil genius ruling the galaxy and one of the dumbest human beings in existence. "Its a conundrum for sure, But Hey" he exclaimed with great confidence and enthusiasm, "The great part about conspiracy theories is that you always have an out. Conspiracy theories are safe.. so when the subject of President Bush being a total retard, we can just retreat to the "illuminati" and wider global conspiracies and you can just continue on acting like everyones an idiot for not knowing that".....

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 11981144)

i use my math degree to look at the facts

FACT: BUsh mafia was about to go down
FACT: several offices ni building 7 were investigating them and collecting evidence on SEC violations involving them and some other people now for years.
FACT: buildings dont fall straight down on themselves unless they are forced to.
FACT: the buildings fell at g
FACT: bomb sniffing dogs were taken out of the WTC buildings about 6 months before they came down
FACT: huge sections of th ose buildings were shut down to all personell except private security and construction firms once the bomb sniffing dogs were out.

IT goes on and on.

This plan needs people to think it is ridiculous...they need them to think..no way they would kill their own people....no way they woul send a rocket into their own pentagon....blah blah..it is all bullshit...you are not dealing with people think the same way we do.

anyone in here...claiming to know all without doing an actual investigation themselves..is the real idiot.

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 11993152)

... did you even read my fucking post???