So he makes a mistake, so this was all planned out?

If you were old enough to remember back that far, and had watched the events of the day unfold, you would know there were a lot of errors made by reporters in the mayhem.

The Statue of Liberty is French dumbass. Obviously it would have a reference to weakness on it.

I find it odd that nowhere in the government issued 9/11 Commission Report does it even mention that WTC 7 collapsed.

The fact that it pancaked, is extremely significant, inasmuch as the type of damage it sustained was far different from the damage to WTC 1 and 2.

If most of the damage was on one face of the building, and it collapsed as a result, then it would seem that the building should not collapse in the manner in which it did.

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The conspiracy theorists love to quote errors and things that were said in a situation of chaos.
Their favorite is the "pull it" from Silverstein, in their ear it means pull the building down, and not pull the people out.
Another one is "that was not a commercial plane" from a woman sreaming on the street, i.o.w. then it can't be commercial plane.

Man, that day was so crazy and confusing, that anything said also sounded crazy afterwards. I was watching a danish reporter when the first tower went down and he said "its coming lots of smoke out of it now"...

... it was confusing, but those conspiracy theorists crack me up :1orglaugh

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tell us more about your experience and qualifications as a structural engineer and demolitions expert. we're all ears. i am sure we can learn a lot.

Confused? How can you be looking at a building and be confused if it has collapsed or not?

I think the report of wtc 7 was postponed.

Because it was chaos?
Man, one of reporters from Denmark, located in N.Y., was crying live on TV, he did not know what to say. Yes, things were confused that day, even reporters are humans.

Here is building 7 falling in less than 6 seconds.
NO ONE was confused because it fell and then the huge puff of smoke filled the air.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IM...L_wtc-7_1_.gif

Remember reporters are only there to read the bluescreens thats what they get paid to do.

Absolute power is the answer.

People needed to die. America needed to feel venerable. They needed to creat a fear so great that it would change the course of the country and the mindset of the people. Job well done.

Stopping an "almost" disaster would not have done it. They planned this out, executed the plan, and now have absolute power. They even have power over foreign banking that they never had before, power to detain people without charge, indefinitely, power to do anything under the shield of "national security" and the power to wage wars, unjust or not, against anyone they see fit. And we all know there is big money in wars, huge money.

So you think BBC was involved in the attacks?

Dude your little GIF proves nothing. You act like its the "smoking gun" of the greatest conspiracy made by the dumbest US government ever. Get fucking real who CARES about WTC 7 anyways? No one died there, I suppose since you think WTC 7 was "pulled" you think the twin were too? Where is your little GIFs for those? You are a serious fucking idiot there are people on this board that hate me for my views and likewise yet we can agree even on this subject.

Where are the THOUSANDS OF CONSPIRATORS that would have to have been in on the conspiracy?

I once stated I was going to take a shit but then realized that I wasn't quite ready.

someone alert the press.

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This gif proves alot. No building falls that fast and that straight down on itself without the help from a controlled demolition. Period !!!

Watch any building fall on the discovery channel and they all fall the same way as that little gif you see.

Rigging a building to fall that fast and that perfect requires weeks of planing. So if you think that a bulding could fall that perfect because of a few fires then, I guess you will believe anything.

If you are serious, my best advice is to get professional help immediately.

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You don't think that maybe he did not know what building he was looking at?

how old were you on 9/11/2001?

And the people that typed in the info on the video, are they also confused? It clearly says on the video that Building 7 collapsed.

I think that the reporters are "not" on it. As some people might suggest. I just think that the propaganda machine jumped the gun a bit early and reported to the reporters what they already new was going to happen.

Reporters are just going to read what they are told.

It also requires a tin foil hat, because no proof of demolition (such as the telltale puffs of smoke and the sounds of hundreds or thousands of demolition charges) exists --except in the pea brains of needle dick losers living in their parents' basements.

When it falls, its usually down.

Lol the illuminati! Guess what Im one of them and you have exposed us with your little GIF! ZOMG!

Do you understand what it takes to drop a building straight down? Drop a building so no other building around it gets damaged?

tsk..tsk..

They were all damaged.

how old were you on 9/11/2001?

it falls even faster when u make the GIF from less frames. amazing.

Hay, don't blame the messenger.

http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/wtc7stillthere.gif

So whats the point?????????????

They did a mistake like millions of others. Case closed.

But it does seem odd..I'm no structural engineer but having 3 huge concrete and steel buildings collapse due to fires does seem to defy logic...

If you don't have anything concrete to add to this thread then don't say anything...

People are speaking up but not a lot of people are listening...

I'll get to the not breathing part right after we get to the bottom of why #7 was pulled...

Sometimes the truth is harder to swallow than the lie..but to be free we have to know..we have to speak out...

Just to refresh your memory...do you remember the Oklahoma bombing?..do you remember the devastation the explosion wreaked on the facade??...BUT THE REST OF THE BUILDING WAS STILL STANDING after the smoke cleared!! Can you justify the huge hole in #7 with it's eventual collapse..just doesn't add up.

The Founding Fathers are probably spinning in their graves with what has happened to this beloved nation...Land of the Free??...The checks and balances you talk about are illusionary...just look at the last 2 elections...stolen by W and not a peep was heard...

Thanks for finding the video..good to see it as I thought the BBC had erased it from their archives..

$$$..couldn't have said it better myself!

Right on man! :thumbsup

Don't compare. I think you should read the NIST report:
http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/WTC%20Part%...se%20Final.pdf

If Bill Clinton was President these same right wing nuts would be singing a different tune. They investigated a 50k land deal for 6 fucking years. and impeached him for lying about a blow job.

Wrong.

The impeachable offenses were: perjury, subornation of perjury, filing a false affidavit, witness tampering, lying to a grand jury, abuse of power, etc..

The underlying issue is almost irrelevent. It could have been wiping his ass, a blow job, or even your mother.

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as you said, you are no structural engineer. so why do u keep commenting about how a building will react to fire/bombs etc. having a concrete and steel building fail due to fire does not defy logic at all. do you know the difference between steel and concrete and how they react to fire/heat ?

i dont know anything about the oklahoma building itself, but i can guarantee that its not structurally the same as the wtc buildings (so comparing different buildings to different events is really stupid. ie a bomb and a fire are incredibly different). if the bomb devastated the facade and the rest of the building was still standing, then obviously the main structural elements werent at the facade of the building (which is how such buildings are built most of the time)

Lol you are a fruitcake this is a thread about 9/11 not Monica Lewinsky.

Not sure why you assume such a sarcastic attitude towards me, when I didn't claim in my post to be versed in structural engineering, nor an expert in demolitions (as if that is required for the points which I posited).

If you wish to respond to the points I raised directly, here is what I wrote again, point by point:

Why, in a supposedly comprehensive report, is this pretty significant event - the collapse of a 47-story building, totally ignored?

Did a 767 aircraft laden with fuel crash into WTC 7? I think we can all agree, no that did not happen. There have been many other tall buildings made of steel with far more significant fires, that did not collapse.

Please show me an example of another steel reinforced building that has collapsed in the same manner as WTC 7 as a result of fire.

If WTC 7 collapsed primarily as a result of structural failure to one side of it (or a combination of that and a fire at the same levels as the structural failure), then it would stand to reason that it would collapse in the direction of the weakness.

Do a Google image search of "building collapse", and you'll see what I mean when the example features a building that collapsed as a result of damage to a particular face of the structure.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, nor do I proclaim to have absolute answers to what happened in this instance. I've simply read accounts and watched videos by experts and kooks on both sides of this issue. No one has absolutely convinced me one way or the other.

Therefore, don't be so quick to condemn me simply for asking/raising questions.

If you accept the Bush Administration argument that the U.S. had to invade Iraq and overthrow Saddam Hussein due to the overwhelming evidence of WMDs, even though this was ultimately proven to be false, then I assume it will be impossible for you to question anything that is fed to you by the media manipulators representing similar positions on 9/11 or other issues, even though you decry people on the other side who even so much as question what happened.

One thing I do understand is PsyOp (Psychological Operations), in which extremist fringe elements (straw man tin foil puppets) are sometimes created in order to easily be discredited, drawing attention away from actual experts that have less sensational but more compelling arguments that challenge the staus quo.

The U.S. government/military would never engage in psychological ops though, would they?

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You are a rush limpballs and fox news consuming sheep. If BC was on board you nuts would be questioning it all.

So you must think Bush is a fucking genius to pull something like this off right?

And I just think you are an idiot. That's fair, isn't it?

Again, unless you are old enough to remember the day, you really should just shut up and stop making yourself look as dumb as maddawgz.

They type what is reported to them, the reported isn't reading what is scrolling across the screen.

There were a lot of misreported "facts" that day.

I remember specifically a reporter announcing that a US Army helicopter hit the Pentagon.

The problem is that everyone wanted to be the first to report a breaking story, and fact checking was exactly a priority that day.

There were a lot of reports that were taken back an hour or so later.

i thought building 7 was blown on purpose and that it was planned and had nothing to do with the attacks?

..perhaps also 18 USC 241 & 242 "Conspiracy to deny civil rights" for the effort of the chief law enforcement officer of this country (and his cronies) to deny a woman, Paula Jones, a fair trial.

Yea, one building was demo'ed as I recall.

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