not even bush is that stupid madawgz.

51 self proclaimed wise ones who "get it"

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1. I served in the Gulf War I have done my duty to my country, which is more than I can say for people like you.
2. 80% of the troops vote Republican so I dont know where the fuck you get your information.
3. I would love nothing more than to purge my country of the cancer that is extreme liberalism.
4. Get some.

I just watched a shitload of vids at google and youtube and don't see any smoke like you're talking about.
Controlled demos are done from bottom to top, not the other way around.

You don't have to melt steel to weaken it. It loses most of it's structural integrity around 600F degree's.
There were many small diesel tanks all over the building for the smaller generators. The main generator was on the 5th floor and was fuel by a very large tank in the based. The line from the basement was pressurized going all they way up to the 5th floor.

So yes pressurized fuel feeding a fire that burned for 7 hours, before reaching the very large tank in the basement could have weakened it enough to collaspe.

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Depending on the context of their argument Bush is either the greatest evil genius of all time, or just a dumb monkey.

Alex Jones is a freedom fighter and I have quite a bit of respect for the man TBH. Sure, he is slightly OTT but the man's heart is in the right place and IMO the world is better off having people like him in it.

I don't subscribe to any particular theory regarding 911 or whatever but the whole thing just stinks from whatever angle you look at it.

Passports and bandanners survive raging fires that brings down buildings but apparently black box flight recoders turn to dust. Even if you believe the official story I dunno how you can buy shit like this that they constantly put out. I assume they're targetting the retarded half of America when they come up with this stuff.

Release the flight recorders, show all the CCTV footage, answer all the questions and you put and end to all this pretty easily. Instead they lie and cover up and have some half arsed commission run by a republican fuck buddy of condy rice.

If you accept that then you're a sheep. Baaaahhh

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wtf !?!? :1orglaugh

Now we need to do a poll on how many mac users belive in 911 conspiracies I think it would be telling haha

You are a fucking kook. Kill yourself now before the civil war starts.

Gee that sounds like a great idea....your "kind" against our "kind"?

Building 7...Building7....Building 7.....it was a controlled demolition..look at the facts..look at the video....

Building 7 was pulled...it was PULLED...doesn't that make you want to find out what really happened?

The levee was not made to withstand a force such as Katrina...corners were cut and a huge price was paid..
Again...please look at the evidence in regards to Building 7...it's the key to everything..if it was rigged for demolition then everything else starts to stink..

...state sponsored...

The government is lying to you...wake up!

Look back and see what other leaders/governments have done to their people to gain control and lessen individual freedoms...Nero burning Rome...Hitler burning the Reichstad...there are other examples...
give the people something to be frightened about and you can mold them into anything you want them to be...

Just tell me something..do you consider yourself as free today as you were before 9/11?
Are you willing to submit to RFID implants to "protect" you from terrorists...
do you want cameras on every corner recording your every move to protect you from the "bogey man"?..
do you want government to control every facet of your life because you're afraid..
if that's the case then by all means just let go...let "Big Brother" take care of everything..and submit yourself to the true evil genius of what we see unfolding as the biggest smoke and mirror trick the world has ever seen.
"Absolute power corrupts absolutely"

I may be an asshole, but seriously you are a fucking nutjob. Seek help immediately. May I recommend a nice Smith & Wesson to alleviate your sickness?

I didn’t say the levee was supposed to hold back a force of Katrina magnitude. I said the levee was supposed to hold back floodwater - which it did, for a short while. Then the levees eventually fell. It’s just like the WTC falling due to impact strikes that were greater than were expected that the design called for.

I've always said that Building #7's collapse was fishy, but this in no way points to state sponsored terrorism.

Are you a troll or do you really hold the views you have posted on this forum? Been wondering...

So based on that video, the firemen were able to get in there with explosives and bring that building down safely withing a matter of minutes???

Hmmm..

Sounds fishy,

lol, how very "land of the free".

But it wasn't just regular firemen..it was the ultrasecret echoforce firemen. :winkwink:

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right . . . now I understand why you are nothing more than a sigwhore

A few things first everyone knows Im no W lover. First off I dont think the current admin could pull off something like that and secondly lots of people would of had to be involved someone would of spoke by now.

agreed.
there is no conspericy

on the subject of the towers: jet fuel has been proven that it could not get hot enough too have melt the steel nor could any of the materials that would have been present in the buildings. The towers were also built too withstand a hit from the biggest commercial plane at the time which was a 707, it was even said it may beable to withstand multiple hits. The twin towers were hit by a 767 though which is slightly smaller than a 707 therefore the buildings must have been really badly made or something fishy is going on!

on the subject of the towers: jet fuel has been proven that it could not get hot enough too have melt the steel nor could any of the materials that would have been present in the buildings. The towers were also built too withstand a hit from the biggest commercial plane at the time which was a 707, it was even said it may beable to withstand multiple hits. The twin towers were hit by a 767 though which is slightly smaller than a 707 therefore the buildings must have been really badly made or something fishy is going on!

and home of the brave... not the weak which should be expelled from this country immediately.

To announce that there must be no criticism of the president... is morally treasonable to the American public.
Theodore Roosevelt

Why would I post otherwise? Certainly I may be sensationalizing some of my posts for shock effect. Point of the matter is if anyone believes 9/11 was a conspiracy the scale of which is simply statistically IMPOSSIBLE to pull off then they really need to do the rest of us on this planet a favor and quit breathing.

This has nothing to do with President Bush, you actually BELIEVE that 9/11 is a conspiracy?

You tinfoil nuts always like to use the word 'melt'. Steel loses it's load baring ability at around 600F, that is fact, no one disputes that. That's why you have to use clever wording and hope no one is really paying attention.

767 is bigger then a 707. I don't know were you fuckers get this info. :1orglaugh

I believe? dont you know how to read? I said I dont think that could happen and why.

lol madawg just got even more dumber in my book than he already was

lol, you made my day, another idiot

yeah the USA killed thousands of citizens to put themselves in worse position than before

damn how did all you conspiracy theorists know?

sorry I didnt realize you were asking a question my bad.

lol you listen to alex jones too ..

Are you kidding -- A 707 is slightly smaller than a 767?

An "advanced" 707 has the following specs:

Wingspan 145 feet 9 inches (44.42 m)
Length 152 feet 11 inches (46.6 m)

A 767 has the following specs:

Wingspan 170 ft 4 in (51.9m)
Length 201 feet 4 inches (61.4 m)


Shall we go into gross weight, fuel capacity, and cargo weight?

wasnt supposed to be worse i guess they just fucked up

Didn't you know that they just called it a 767 to make it seem bigger?

What I would like to know is how the US government can keep such a massive conspiracy under wraps.
Did GWB have everyone involved killed right after?

yeah because the 767 is much bigger than the 747 right!!

WTC 7, oh how nice it comes down.

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Both are HUGE compared to a 707. Did you really think a 707 is bigger than a 767?


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was takin the piss

well for some reason i thought america wanted the weak and huddled masses, etc.

wanting and allowing are two different things

Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door.

written on the statue of liberty.

There were firemen reporting about a huge hole in building 7, caused by the towers when they felt down.

It cracks me up with these conspiracy theorists, because they only tell what they want you to hear.

Here is some debunking stuff for the interested:
http://911myths.com/html/wtc7_damage.html

I know what it says.

sure i feel free.

why would i feel afraid? my life hasn't changed one bit since 9/11. not one thing is different in my life after Bush or 9/11. the only difference is that i have to take my shoes off to get through security when boarding a plane. other than that, i wake up, i work, i go to the gym, i go out with my wife and i still do all the same things i did on 9/10.

you're not only very paranoid.. you're delusional.

there is one huge flaw in your parting quote... our government is set up so "absolute power" is not in anyones hands. no degree of paranoia on your part will change that fact. no degree of paranoia changes the fact that there are 3 branches of government and an adequate system of checks and balances that have worked so well for 3 centuries, that there has never been a need to change it... and so well that much of the western and developed world has tried to emulate it.

Here is the link of the video and the BBC reporter. Fast foward to about 15:00 and you will see the reporter saying the WTC 7 collapsed and its still standing.


http://www.esnips.com/doc/47ae2fd7-0...lding7Collapse

great points

So what does that prove? That the journalists were confused like all of us?