What blows my mind about "real work" - GoFuckYourself.com

Chris Corn · 02-16-2007, 11:21 AM

When say, its a Friday nearing 2:00 p.m. and you're done at 5:00 p.m. and basically you are going to just sit around and be non-productive anyway and it will make no difference to how much your company earns, but you still have to stay there until 'time is up'. It blows my mind. Why dont we just nock off early, why does our system work like this so that everyone has to "earn their money". Your boss just can't give you something for free. It's whats wrong with today. No probs at my end, but something to think about.

ADL Colin · 02-16-2007, 11:24 AM

Good point. No use wasting the boss' money. You might as well go home and save him some. You go home and he deducts 3/40 of your paycheck. You have more free time. Company profit increases. Everybody wins.

fallenmuffin · 02-16-2007, 11:25 AM

work on commission..problem solved.

interracialtoons · 02-16-2007, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Corn

When say, its a Friday nearing 2:00 p.m. and you're done at 5:00 p.m. and basically you are going to just sit around and be non-productive anyway and it will make no difference to how much your company earns, but you still have to stay there until 'time is up'. It blows my mind. Why dont we just nock off early, why does our system work like this so that everyone has to "earn their money". Your boss just can't give you something for free. It's whats wrong with today. No probs at my end, but something to think about.

If they start letting you leave at 2:00pm then you will start fucking off as soon as you get to work. At least now you do some work before you start fucking off.

Violetta · 02-16-2007, 12:17 PM

find a more interesting job

Chris Corn · 02-16-2007, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by interracialtoons

If they start letting you leave at 2:00pm then you will start fucking off as soon as you get to work. At least now you do some work before you start fucking off.

They should know you've done work by inspecting your productivity, not hours spent on the job. If your productivity goes down, they fire you. If there's no work to do, why stay? Hours on the job has nothing to do with work getting done, but most people think that it does.

Darkland · 02-16-2007, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Corn

When say, its a Friday nearing 2:00 p.m. and you're done at 5:00 p.m. and basically you are going to just sit around and be non-productive anyway and it will make no difference to how much your company earns, but you still have to stay there until 'time is up'. It blows my mind. Why dont we just nock off early, why does our system work like this so that everyone has to "earn their money". Your boss just can't give you something for free. It's whats wrong with today. No probs at my end, but something to think about.

Maybe I am not reading this right but you think you should knock off early and STILL get paid a full day?

If that IS what you believe then THATS whats wrong with today.

germ · 02-16-2007, 02:55 PM

the "problem today" that you speak of is the fact that theres no incentive for people to do any real work when they're paid on an hourly basis with no bonus system in place.

Chris Corn · 02-16-2007, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkland

Maybe I am not reading this right but you think you should knock off early and STILL get paid a full day?

If that IS what you believe then THATS whats wrong with today.

Well hmmm, work should be about productivity, not about time. You should be paid based on work done, not time in....yes you should be paid for time off, if otherwise there is no work to be done. If at the end of the day, regardless if you are physically there at work doing nothing or at home/leisure there is no discernable difference in the companies profits, then you should be able to spend it however you wish. What's the point putting your time in? Is your boss buying your labour or your time? For those that think you should be paid for no labour (say there is actually nothing productive available to do) while you wait for the day to end, then you're actually selling your time, not your labour, and he is purchasing your life.

Fizzgig · 02-16-2007, 03:03 PM

Some people work right up until qutting time on Friday and keep going. Those people are referred to as "your future boss".

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interracialtoons · 02-16-2007, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Corn

Well hmmm, work should be about productivity, not about time. You should be paid based on work done, not time in....yes you should be paid for time off, if otherwise there is no work to be done. If at the end of the day, regardless if you are physically there at work doing nothing or at home/leisure there is no discernable difference in the companies profits, then you should be able to spend it however you wish. What's the point putting your time in? Is your boss buying your labour or your time? For those that think you should be paid for no labour (say there is actually nothing productive available to do) while you wait for the day to end, then you're actually selling your time, not your labour, and he is purchasing your life.

How productive are you, if you can't find someting to do when there is "no work"?

Elli · 02-16-2007, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fizzgig

Some people work right up until qutting time on Friday and keep going. Those people are referred to as "your future boss".

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hehe so true

Linkster · 02-16-2007, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by germ

the "problem today" that you speak of is the fact that theres no incentive for people to do any real work when they're paid on an hourly basis with no bonus system in place.

Gee I guess that concept of being paid an hourly wage to work for that number of hours - and now you need a bonus or incentive to do that? You must have been brought up in the "My kid eats your shit" bumper stickers world of rewarding every little damned thing you do so you feel "special"????
Go get a fucking real life - or do what most in your generation do - text your best friend about that old asshole on GFY pinging on your feelings

LiveDose · 02-16-2007, 05:49 PM

Some people like to punch the clock and not worry about anything. And some people have to punch the clock because they see no other way. Just be happy you've figured out another way.

Scott McD · 02-16-2007, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Corn

When say, its a Friday nearing 2:00 p.m. and you're done at 5:00 p.m. and basically you are going to just sit around and be non-productive anyway and it will make no difference to how much your company earns, but you still have to stay there until 'time is up'. It blows my mind. Why dont we just nock off early, why does our system work like this so that everyone has to "earn their money".

I think people should be given the option of leaving early once the work is done, and not getting paid for that time.

Before i worked in the biz, my old job would let me do this. I didn't miss the 'little' amount off my wages, and i enjoyed getting home early some days, and maybe going out for a nice game of golf or something on a sunny day...

wdforty · 02-16-2007, 06:15 PM

But if you finished early at 2pm, you'd stop being productive at 11am instead ;)

Spunky · 02-16-2007, 06:37 PM

I've been busting my hump for the man for 25 plus years.Unless your on a salary you don't get paid for hours missed.You're only as good as your last job..

Contra · 02-16-2007, 06:41 PM

WoW, there is a major difference in philosophy in this thread. I agree that work is stupid.

kane · 02-16-2007, 07:00 PM

My brother works in construction. He works 4 10 hour days and has Fri, sat and Sunday off. On Thursday they are told that they get to go home whenever they finish what is on the schedule for that day. Obviously the work needs to be done correctly, but they usually end up getting to leave 1-2 hours early and still get paid for the full 10. My brother said it's a motivator because people that would normally slack are busting their asses to get things done.

Chris Corn · 02-16-2007, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

My brother works in construction. He works 4 10 hour days and has Fri, sat and Sunday off. On Thursday they are told that they get to go home whenever they finish what is on the schedule for that day. Obviously the work needs to be done correctly, but they usually end up getting to leave 1-2 hours early and still get paid for the full 10. My brother said it's a motivator because people that would normally slack are busting their asses to get things done.

That completely makes sense and how it should be. Work is slatted and when its done, you go home or do whatever you want. Yes there is a major difference in philosophy for sure. I've been in a job where that wasnt the case. You'd just hang out, nothing productive to do, but you had to stretch the day out to get your wage. It got tiring. If I dont produce now, I dont get paid. If there is nothing to do, I dont work.

kane · 02-16-2007, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Corn

That completely makes sense and how it should be. Work is slatted and when its done, you go home or do whatever you want. Yes there is a major difference in philosophy for sure. I've been in a job where that wasnt the case. You'd just hang out, nothing productive to do, but you had to stretch the day out to get your wage. It got tiring. If I dont produce now, I dont get paid. If there is nothing to do, I dont work.

I've had jobs like that in the past. In many jobs people are just doing enough to not get fired. There was a job I had working for a pretty big tech company where they had goals for us to reach. Sometimes they were daily or weekly or monthly. They didn't care how you worked to get the goals met, just so long as it happened. So a lot of days we would take 90 minute lunches and stuff like that. They paid us for it all and just told us they didn't care that the knew the job was mentally taxing (it was the hardest job I have ever had) so some days you need some time to decompress and let your brain unlock. If we got what they needed done on time, they were as happy as could be.

There was one poor bastard at the job that spent 8-9 hours a day just filling out and maintaining spreadsheets. He hated it because it was so boring, that poor guy never got to leave early

But he earned his check that was for sure.

Doctor Dre · 02-16-2007, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Fizzgig

Some people work right up until qutting time on Friday and keep going. Those people are referred to as "your future boss".

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Fizzgig

Or sheeps that will end up earning a good salary but will never make the big bucks.

J. Falcon · 02-16-2007, 08:06 PM

Especially on a Friday before a long weekends!! Who the hell is going to be productive??

fusionx · 02-16-2007, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Corn

Well hmmm, work should be about productivity, not about time. You should be paid based on work done, not time in....yes you should be paid for time off, if otherwise there is no work to be done. If at the end of the day, regardless if you are physically there at work doing nothing or at home/leisure there is no discernable difference in the companies profits, then you should be able to spend it however you wish. What's the point putting your time in? Is your boss buying your labour or your time? For those that think you should be paid for no labour (say there is actually nothing productive available to do) while you wait for the day to end, then you're actually selling your time, not your labour, and he is purchasing your life.

Your management sucks.

They either have too many employees, not enough biz, or both.

I wouldn't trust a company like that - not if I was concerned about longevity with them. Pretty soon they'll figure that out and start canning people (or hopefully generating more biz).

The other side of the coin - be responsible and find other things to do. Add value to your company, and subtly let management know about it. Get that raise and promotion. Then you can be the guy finding work for the employees to do

E$_manager · 02-17-2007, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Corn

When say, its a Friday nearing 2:00 p.m. and you're done at 5:00 p.m. and basically you are going to just sit around and be non-productive anyway and it will make no difference to how much your company earns, but you still have to stay there until 'time is up'. It blows my mind. Why dont we just nock off early, why does our system work like this so that everyone has to "earn their money". Your boss just can't give you something for free. It's whats wrong with today. No probs at my end, but something to think about.

I know a couple of companies that give their employees to earn the percentage of the revenue they brought to the company, buy most of them of course wouldn't let you out till evening (6pm).

Adultnet · 02-17-2007, 08:23 AM

there are many cases in some you don't need to stay and work too long

Chris Corn · 02-17-2007, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by fusionx

Your management sucks.

They either have too many employees, not enough biz, or both.

I wouldn't trust a company like that - not if I was concerned about longevity with them. Pretty soon they'll figure that out and start canning people (or hopefully generating more biz).

The other side of the coin - be responsible and find other things to do. Add value to your company, and subtly let management know about it. Get that raise and promotion. Then you can be the guy finding work for the employees to do

You actually nailed it...the management sucked

BitAudioVideo · 02-17-2007, 09:27 AM

i forget what its like to slack off at work. taking off early on friday? taking the weekend off? i worked on christmas day! im trying to plan on going fishing in march and thinking... can i really take 3 days off work?!?

Va2k · 02-17-2007, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Corn

When say, its a Friday nearing 2:00 p.m. and you're done at 5:00 p.m. and basically you are going to just sit around and be non-productive anyway and it will make no difference to how much your company earns, but you still have to stay there until 'time is up'. It blows my mind. Why dont we just nock off early, why does our system work like this so that everyone has to "earn their money". Your boss just can't give you something for free. It's whats wrong with today. No probs at my end, but something to think about.

1ST you're an idiot if you don't think working in this biz is REAL WORK! 2nd Would you pay people to just go home if there is nothing to do? Don't think so! 3rd Refer to #1

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Chris Corn Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 237	What blows my mind about "real work" When say, its a Friday nearing 2:00 p.m. and you're done at 5:00 p.m. and basically you are going to just sit around and be non-productive anyway and it will make no difference to how much your company earns, but you still have to stay there until 'time is up'. It blows my mind. Why dont we just nock off early, why does our system work like this so that everyone has to "earn their money". Your boss just can't give you something for free. It's whats wrong with today. No probs at my end, but something to think about. __________________ I shoot video. Corn.Christopher (at) gmail.com ICQ 212-072-421

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kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	My brother works in construction. He works 4 10 hour days and has Fri, sat and Sunday off. On Thursday they are told that they get to go home whenever they finish what is on the schedule for that day. Obviously the work needs to be done correctly, but they usually end up getting to leave 1-2 hours early and still get paid for the full 10. My brother said it's a motivator because people that would normally slack are busting their asses to get things done.

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BitAudioVideo Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: USA, Georgia Posts: 1,246	i forget what its like to slack off at work. taking off early on friday? taking the weekend off? i worked on christmas day! im trying to plan on going fishing in march and thinking... can i really take 3 days off work?!? __________________ Hi-Quality Encoding - Bulk Orders - On Time! http://bitaudiovideo.com icq 50476697 - aim n3r0xXx