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natedawg · 02-10-2007, 09:17 AM

I dunno if it is just me, but this is not the first time this has happened. I got a sale with liondollars, worth $30 in stats remote yesturday. Today I wake up and now statsremote tells me I got a sale with liondollars worth $0.

I do an all time check with statsremote, and have 53 sales, but the worth of those sales is only $840? I only promote links that make $30 per sale, so I thought 53 sales would be worth $1,590.

I have sent their support an email last week and still have no reply.

Are they shaving? Are they chargebacks? What the hell.

Does anyone else have this problem? or am I alone with this?

CaptainHowdy · 02-10-2007, 11:53 AM

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tranza · 02-10-2007, 11:58 AM

That's not good.

TubeSubmitters · 02-10-2007, 12:02 PM

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Barefootsies · 02-10-2007, 12:04 PM

blonda80 · 02-10-2007, 12:07 PM

bump for you

Pimpin_J · 02-10-2007, 12:13 PM

Dont think they are shaving! StatsRemote doesnt show you the total income for a certain day from one sponsors! It shows you month income/daily percentage = ST output. Hope you can follow me.

madawgz · 02-10-2007, 12:20 PM

ive made money with them, they arnt shaving

liondollars is a good company

Agent 488 · 02-10-2007, 12:21 PM

do a test sign up.

Jman · 02-10-2007, 12:29 PM

Useless thread title if you can't back it up IMHO.

FrameShifter · 02-10-2007, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMan

Useless thread title if you can't back it up IMHO.

Back what up? Maybe you missed the "?" in the title. He wasn't saying they are shaving. He's asking if they are based on what he's experienced with them.

sherie · 02-10-2007, 01:11 PM

There are many ways to contact someone without starting a thread like this. As said earlier in the thread about statsremote, there is one reason. Log into your LionDollar account and check there. Did you even do that before posting this thread? Did you do an all time check in your Lion Dollars account? It would seem as though you haven't.

I have been sending traffic there for years and have not had any issue's that weren't resolved immediately.

They could be having technical issue's, who know's. But dude, before making a thread with the word "shave" in it, you really should exhaust all ways of communication beforehand. Sending an email to support a week ago is not exhausting those avenues.

KrisKross · 02-10-2007, 01:39 PM

Did you bother to login to your actual LionDollars account and check what the stats say in there?

WarChild · 02-10-2007, 01:41 PM

Stats remote often behaves in strange ways. Sales for no dollars. Multiple sales and hits appearing, then dissapearing. It happens on more than just one program in my experience.

fuzebox · 02-10-2007, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisKross

Did you bother to login to your actual LionDollars account and check what the stats say in there?

I was wondering this also. Anyone who has used Statsremote for any amount of time knows that it screws up sometimes and needs to be reset.

WiredGuy · 02-10-2007, 02:11 PM

Never rely on a third party to deliver anything more than an indication of your sales. Before making an accusation as serious as this, try logging into LionDollars directly to check the sales yourself for accuracy.
WG

Adam_M · 02-10-2007, 02:25 PM

LionDollars are good people.
Have a talk with them and I am sure they will sort it out for you.

Adam

Jman · 02-10-2007, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrameShifter

Back what up? Maybe you missed the "?" in the title. He wasn't saying they are shaving. He's asking if they are based on what he's experienced with them.

ROFLMMFFWAO

You got to be kidding me right.

Title could of said LionsDollars/Statsremote stats problem.

Why the FUCK did he have to put the word shave in the title of this post.

Fucking Morons

Sausage · 02-10-2007, 03:00 PM

CTB and liondollars are solid people. Sometimes these things happen, and the first thing that pops into my head isn't always shaving. I know we often refund signups that are obvious fraud or very risky, and the sales numbers remain. Before a thread like this you really should contact ctb or one of the ld team.

Agent 488 · 02-10-2007, 03:06 PM

programs don't shave. that's fucking bullshit.

uno · 02-10-2007, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherie

There are many ways to contact someone without starting a thread like this. As said earlier in the thread about statsremote, there is one reason. Log into your LionDollar account and check there. Did you even do that before posting this thread? Did you do an all time check in your Lion Dollars account? It would seem as though you haven't.

I have been sending traffic there for years and have not had any issue's that weren't resolved immediately.

They could be having technical issue's, who know's. But dude, before making a thread with the word "shave" in it, you really should exhaust all ways of communication beforehand. Sending an email to support a week ago is not exhausting those avenues.

Wow, I agree with Sherie!

Agent 488 · 02-10-2007, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMan

Why the FUCK did he have to put the word shave in the title of this post.

exactly. you could have also used barber, brush, clip, crop, cut, cut back, cut down, decorticate, graze, kiss, knock off, make bare, pare, peel, plane, prune, shear, shingle, shred, skim, skin, skive, slash, slice thin, sliver, strip, touch, or trim.

pornguy · 02-10-2007, 03:52 PM

When stats remote does that, try logging into the programs stats, before you start a thread like this.

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-10-2007, 03:56 PM

So Fucking Banned.

Doctor Dre · 02-10-2007, 03:57 PM

madawgz you're fucking acting ignorant.

I'm sending many sales a day to a program (beeing their #1 affiliate) and I'm still wondering if they are shaving my ass.

No way you can prove they shave or don't shave without trying a bunch of test signups in many different circonstances (geo targeting etc etc).

XMaster · 02-10-2007, 04:00 PM

statsremote might be wrong. did you check program stats ?

madawgz · 02-10-2007, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

madawgz you're fucking acting ignorant.

I'm sending many sales a day to a program (beeing their #1 affiliate) and I'm still wondering if they are shaving my ass.

No way you can prove they shave or don't shave without trying a bunch of test signups in many different circonstances (geo targeting etc etc).

yeah i know what you mean

i get a constant number of signups per day and i flip around sponsors all the time, getting the same number of signups on liondollars as i would on another affiliate program

i feel paranoid just like you all the time lol, always wondering...

Nysus · 02-10-2007, 04:09 PM

Why do people get worked up when someone starts a thread about possibility of someone shaving? It's a legitimate concern / question. Obviously any sponsor whether they shave or Not are going to say they don't; there could be a valid reason for a sale showing and disappearing, so of course contacting the sponsor is handy.. anyway.

uno · 02-10-2007, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nysus

Why do people get worked up when someone starts a thread about possibility of someone shaving? It's a legitimate concern / question. Obviously any sponsor whether they shave or Not are going to say they don't; there could be a valid reason for a sale showing and disappearing, so of course contacting the sponsor is handy.. anyway.

It's a pretty big deal to call the integrity of a program into question.

cj_purve · 02-10-2007, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nysus

Why do people get worked up when someone starts a thread about possibility of someone shaving? It's a legitimate concern / question. Obviously any sponsor whether they shave or Not are going to say they don't; there could be a valid reason for a sale showing and disappearing, so of course contacting the sponsor is handy.. anyway.

I think its more that the basis for the shaving question was the reporting of a 3rd party program ... stats remote has their own way of doing things, programs can't be responsible for that. After all, its the programs data, they shouldn't have to tecnically support a 3rd party program that is taking their data and displaying it in their own format.

I just sms'd toyboy who will be here soon (although give him 5 as he's probably having a sunday morning quickie!!! ... or 2 ... lol )

Phoenix · 02-10-2007, 04:38 PM

hey Natedawg

please get in touch with me and i will look into this for you.

[email protected]

ICQ#163879276

please send your account name and we will look into it

perhaps your email never came though as i monitor all support emails and nothing of that nature came through

cj_purve · 02-10-2007, 04:51 PM

thanks Mr Phoenix!

Kimo · 02-10-2007, 05:16 PM

lion dollars rocks

CuriousToyBoy · 02-11-2007, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherie

There are many ways to contact someone without starting a thread like this. As said earlier in the thread about statsremote, there is one reason. Log into your LionDollar account and check there. Did you even do that before posting this thread? Did you do an all time check in your Lion Dollars account? It would seem as though you haven't.

I have been sending traffic there for years and have not had any issue's that weren't resolved immediately.

They could be having technical issue's, who know's. But dude, before making a thread with the word "shave" in it, you really should exhaust all ways of communication beforehand. Sending an email to support a week ago is not exhausting those avenues.

Damn.

Just back from a weekend at the beach, can't a man have ANY time off ;-)

We are always available to look at your issues, hit us up anytime ....

We HAVE had a couple of issues with StatsRemote because of our backend batching (and we are rewriting that as we speak to fix bugs), but NOTHING goes missing.

Email me on [email protected] or ICQ #293070684, CuriousToyBoy on Skype, [email protected] on MSN, GMM Toy Boy on AOL or GMMtoyboy on Yahoo.

Thanks for coming

CuriousToyBoy · 02-11-2007, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj_purve

I just sms'd toyboy who will be here soon (although give him 5 as he's probably having a sunday morning quickie!!! ... or 2 ... lol )

I was.

At Kingscliff on the beach.

BBQ'ing sausages and eggs when your text came through !

Awesome day, kids love it down there.

CuriousToyBoy · 02-11-2007, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix

hey Natedawg

please get in touch with me and i will look into this for you.

[email protected]

ICQ#163879276

please send your account name and we will look into it

perhaps your email never came though as i monitor all support emails and nothing of that nature came through

Cheers Brad, sorry mate, did not see your response beforfe I chimed on in !!

And what Brad says is right folks... with Brad and Z and myself in different timezones, there is ALWAYS someone around for you to hit up.

Unlike some I welcome threads like these, because unlike others, we have NOTHING to hide and love the opportunity to chime on in and fly the flag.

How many others AVOID the hard issues and questions ?

LionDollars don't.

CuriousToyBoy · 02-11-2007, 02:33 AM

And guys, thanks fro the kudos in this thread ... we bust out nuts to make our affiliates happy, and as with the recent payment problems thread (which was sorted !) we are OPEN to all.

Appreciate your support and LOVE sending you all money.

;-)

Shoplifter · 02-11-2007, 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nysus

Why do people get worked up when someone starts a thread about possibility of someone shaving? It's a legitimate concern / question.

I'm often surprised there is not more talk of this here on GFY...Certainly on the TGP boards this is discussed in much more direct language. But mention the "s" word here and the Politburo will descend pretty quickly to discredit even the possibility of shaving. Speculation about shaving amongst webmasters in a situation where they are not privy to any real accounting info is acceptable.

Just as a matter of record...Have I been shaved by some of the major programs that are represented on GFY, yeah I have. Has there been software sold to programs that enables shaving, hell yeah. Are most affiliates dumb as posts to accept it as business as usual....well who knows.

My advice to anyone worried about shaving is start your own paysites.

All this aside tho the original poster should not rely on Stats Remote as any indication of foul play...Despite what I have said there are a lot of on the level programs out there.

CuriousToyBoy · 02-11-2007, 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoplifter

I'm often surprised there is not more talk of this here on GFY...Certainly on the TGP boards this is discussed in much more direct language. But mention the "s" word here and the Politburo will descend pretty quickly to discredit even the possibility of shaving. Speculation about shaving amongst webmasters in a situation where they are not privy to any real accounting info is acceptable.

Just as a matter of record...Have I been shaved by some of the major programs that are represented on GFY, yeah I have. Has there been software sold to programs that enables shaving, hell yeah. Are most affiliates dumb as posts to accept it as business as usual....well who knows.

My advice to anyone worried about shaving is start your own paysites.

All this aside tho the original poster should not rely on Stats Remote as any indication of foul play...Despite what I have said there are a lot of on the level programs out there.

Nice, logical and well presented post IMHO.

Key word you used ..... SPECULATION.

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natedawg Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 30	Liondollars Shaving? I dunno if it is just me, but this is not the first time this has happened. I got a sale with liondollars, worth $30 in stats remote yesturday. Today I wake up and now statsremote tells me I got a sale with liondollars worth $0. I do an all time check with statsremote, and have 53 sales, but the worth of those sales is only $840? I only promote links that make $30 per sale, so I thought 53 sales would be worth $1,590. I have sent their support an email last week and still have no reply. Are they shaving? Are they chargebacks? What the hell. Does anyone else have this problem? or am I alone with this? __________________ Nathan Marcon

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