Self-Employment is like Crack - GoFuckYourself.com

ryph · 01-19-2007, 10:01 PM

I was just going through some old files stored away from ages ago, and I came across this little rant posted here on gfy some years ago. It really hits home, and I remember reading it over each adn every time things were looking bad when I was first starting out. I figured id repost it, as I'm sure this hit close to home to a lot of folks on here as well.

Self-Employment is like crack...

Those who know, know.

You start working for yourself and make more and more money. Pretty soon you are making
more money than you ever have before, and the whole time you're having a blast. Next
thing you know you are fucking spoiled rotten. No matter how bad shit gets you can't
imagine going back to a real fucking job. Pushing pencils or running somebody elses
business? Me fucking run your shit while I take home a whopping $10 a fucking hour? I'd
rather fucking die!

You push yourself as hard as you can because theres no way in hell you could ever do
that again. No matter what happens you'd rather live on the street than have to punch
a fucking timeclock. You are going to do whatever the fuck it takes to make money you
can call your own. It may be a pain in the ass but it's YOUR pain and YOUR ass. You'll
get lazy and shit will go wrong. But when it does, you can damn sure figure it out and
you will survive. You WILL do whatever the fuck you have to for things to work.

And when your wife or girlfriend says you work to much and/or don't spend enough time
with them you will tell them to fuck off with their spoiled ass because NO FUCKING WAY
you are going to let your business slide to the point where you have to sign your name
to a job application.

Aside from the fact that I can no longer force myself to work for somebody how do you
people get by on $10, $15, or even $30 a fucking hour? I don't have much of anything but
$30 an hour wouldn't fucking touch the notes I have.

Beware noobs, once you reach a certain point there is no turning back. You would rather
fucking die.

Dagwolf · 01-19-2007, 10:09 PM

It's like that even if you don't make loads. I value my freedom.

starpimps · 01-19-2007, 10:12 PM

wow...well put.

escorpio · 01-19-2007, 10:13 PM

Thanks, that was some inspiration I needed. Going through a rough period.

Splum · 01-19-2007, 10:21 PM

Free from the Matrix since 1999 and never going back

woj · 01-19-2007, 10:24 PM

well said

teg0 · 01-19-2007, 10:24 PM

I've already gotten to that point. I was in a supermarket the other day and and heard some girl talking to a friend about how she just got a $13 hour job. Talking about it like she just won the lotto or something.

scotty2hotty1111 · 01-19-2007, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryph

once you reach a certain point there is no turning back. You would rather
fucking die.

tony286 · 01-19-2007, 10:53 PM

I would agree

pr0 · 01-20-2007, 01:24 AM

It's a good point....but rather die? Naaa.....8 hours a day doing security or tech support would be pretty funny. Remember that #....its only 8 hours, & at the end of your 8-5, you can do whatever the fuck you want & live your life.

Our businesses are all time consuming & life consuming. 12, 14, 18, 20 hours a day......most of the people here can't even sleep without dreaming in code & stats.

It really is a toss up....get rich & die quick due to stress. Or be poor & take some assholes bullshit all day, but live till your 80+ : )

Me, i'll get rich & die quick.

CC · 01-20-2007, 02:20 AM

So true. I love not having to work for the man at an office Monday - Friday with people I hate.

wyldworx · 01-20-2007, 02:34 AM

It is a hard one, but I would ask this. Why would one want to go backwards, I have found this industry to be more forgiving than most, and more desirable. Crack just makes you look ugly and scatters the fuck out of you till there is no more to scatter!!

DateDoc · 01-20-2007, 02:34 AM

The more you make the more you want. You hit a $1k day in sales and you begin to think ok what do i have to do to double that and it turns out it isn't really that hard. You do have to work a lot but I'd rather bust my ass for 10 years and make more than I can spend and retire than worry about what every one is doing tonight or the next night, etc.

tabasco · 01-20-2007, 02:35 AM

Good read. I'm at that point now - pretty sure I'm gonna quite my job in next few weeks to peddle porn fulltime and also get a couple of mainstream projects off the ground.

In six months doing this only part time I've managed to exceed my day job pay by a decent margin. 6 months ago I didn't have a clue about this industry or how to make even the most basic html page or any of it, and I still have lots to learn. But I've been working my fucking ass off on this because I soon saw the potential to be able to do this fulltime and not have to drag my ass to a job I don't really like every day for the next 40 years whilst barely making enough to cover the mortgage.

Fuck that shit... I'm gonna back myself to do this.

sicone · 01-20-2007, 02:55 AM

when put that way, yes it is like crack

ryph · 01-20-2007, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0

It's a good point....but rather die? Naaa.....8 hours a day doing security or tech support would be pretty funny. Remember that #....its only 8 hours, & at the end of your 8-5, you can do whatever the fuck you want & live your life.

Our businesses are all time consuming & life consuming. 12, 14, 18, 20 hours a day......most of the people here can't even sleep without dreaming in code & stats.

It really is a toss up....get rich & die quick due to stress. Or be poor & take some assholes bullshit all day, but live till your 80+ : )

Me, i'll get rich & die quick.

Actually, yes rather die. Not sure how hard you work, but I'm sure most established people have gotten to the point where it's very laid back. Wake up around noonish, check some emails, checks stats. Grab some food.. bs watching tv. Dabble in some projects till 8ish and go out and do whatever with friends who do have 9-5s.
12, 14, 18 hrs a day? Christ. Maybe if a must be done project came along, sure I've pulled 48hr sessions straight. But thats the exception not the norm.
Self employment is supposed to be about relaxed lifestyle, not JUST the money.

selena · 01-20-2007, 08:05 AM

I'd agree with the vast majority of that post.

I don't have a lot of free time but when I do, and I'm asked to go do something, my first thought always is "but I could be working".

jerzeemedia · 01-20-2007, 08:28 AM

Let me input here, I quit my job about 3 years ago now. That post, is so very true; at least it is for me. I work sometimes a couple of days in a row without sleep just because I know my work will pay off, and it'll result in the many benefits of not having an employer. Times can get pretty rough, but if you can fight through them (as it's very hard to usually), they usually improve with some extra elbow grease. Hang in there, all my self-employed friends and strugglers.

polish_aristocrat · 01-20-2007, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BusterPorn

The more you make the more you want. You hit a $1k day in sales and you begin to think ok what do i have to do to double that and it turns out it isn't really that hard.

congrats on earning $2k per day

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryph

Self employment is supposed to be about relaxed lifestyle, not JUST the money.

definitely

DraX · 01-20-2007, 08:43 AM

very intreresting post, made me think twice

BlackCrayon · 01-20-2007, 08:50 AM

yes i agree. there have been rough times where people told me 'maybe i should get a real job' because i wasn't making very much. fuck that i thought, i'll get back up there and sure enough things got better again and im back making more money than them again. and most definitely is about a relaxed lifestyle to me. i love to be able to go back to bed in the morning, not have a schedule, not have to commute and not have to listen to anyone but me.

Marshal · 01-20-2007, 09:13 AM

yep, self-employments is like crack! i've found out i was in top ten earnings in my town, and i'm sure this is the point where's no comming back!

Zester · 01-20-2007, 09:15 AM

good read.
i'm doing this part time and got to the point my sites work for themselves - I don't have to do anything but read emails every now and then.
i don't have much trouble with my day job so I got my ass covered either way: if porn dies tomorrow - still got my day job which is enough income, and if I get fired from my day job - HA! who gives a fuck, I got a salary doing things that makes me jerk off and now I will have to jerk off full time - poor me !! HAHAHA!!

Mr. E · 01-20-2007, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teg0

I've already gotten to that point. I was in a supermarket the other day and and heard some girl talking to a friend about how she just got a $13 hour job. Talking about it like she just won the lotto or something.

LMAO! Yea, thats funny when that happens.

Alphonso · 01-20-2007, 09:23 AM

So true !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Herb Kornfield · 01-20-2007, 09:51 AM

Indeed it is ...

It is the best feeling in the world to know that you are the master of your destiny.

Buzz · 01-20-2007, 09:57 AM

Believe me or not, but I LOVE THE "CRACK"!

martinsc · 01-20-2007, 10:28 AM

just keep in mind it's not only about the money...

Adultnet · 01-20-2007, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herb Kornfield

Indeed it is ...

It is the best feeling in the world to know that you are the master of your destiny.

yeah its goody

Barefootsies · 01-20-2007, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splum

Free from the Matrix since 1999 and never going back

True dat.

I use the same reference in "being free from the Matrix".

Barefootsies · 01-20-2007, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

congrats on earning $2k per day

definitely

Cheers

SkeetSkeet · 01-20-2007, 12:14 PM

you have to be a work-a-holic to have a successful program !

leming · 01-20-2007, 12:15 PM

He-he...
Yep 100% of true...

free4porn · 01-20-2007, 01:37 PM

thats my inspiration now!

DaddyHalbucks · 01-20-2007, 01:47 PM

That point for me was $0 per hour. I quit my job when I was broke and had no income from webmastering.

The climb up has been brutal.

But there no other path for me.

Boobs · 01-20-2007, 01:48 PM

i must be crackkkkeddd

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-20-2007, 02:00 PM

i was self employeed for 4 years doing this shit, now i have a job that i work 5PM till 10PM, it helps alot, sure its GUARANTEED money, which is nice, because my shit could flop and i wouldn't make any sales for like 2 weeks, that would suck, but yeah... it also helps me get away from this because recently, id get lazy and not wanna do anything, well being away from the comp for 5-6 hours a day 4 days aweek really helps keep me motivated and not burnt out, i will most likely keep this job even if i'm making more an hour with my website then i am a whole 6 months at this job, just to keep things fresh and not boring

scottybuzz · 01-20-2007, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madrox

i was self employeed for 4 years doing this shit, now i have a job that i work 5PM till 10PM, it helps alot, sure its GUARANTEED money, which is nice, because my shit could flop and i wouldn't make any sales for like 2 weeks, that would suck, but yeah... it also helps me get away from this because recently, id get lazy and not wanna do anything, well being away from the comp for 5-6 hours a day 4 days aweek really helps keep me motivated and not burnt out, i will most likely keep this job even if i'm making more an hour with my website then i am a whole 6 months at this job, just to keep things fresh and not boring

same here I have a part time job. Just in case sales slump and stay at 0. at least i got a back up and dont have to wait 2 months just to get registered to get a job.

Klen · 01-20-2007, 02:54 PM

Money money money,must be funny,it's a richman world

mavtaxi · 01-20-2007, 03:46 PM

KlenTelaris, well put ... it's just money....

Ecchi22 · 01-20-2007, 04:39 PM

Nice thread, thanks.

J. Falcon · 01-20-2007, 04:48 PM

Good points but not everyone is as fotunate.

madawgz · 01-20-2007, 04:55 PM

yeah i know exactly what your talking about

reynold · 01-21-2007, 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herb Kornfield

Indeed it is ...

It is the best feeling in the world to know that you are the master of your destiny.

I agree with this.

Peaches · 01-22-2007, 09:08 AM

This could not be more true. I've worked for myself full time for 11 years now. I'm going to have to serve some time in a few months in an office working for a paycheck. HOPEFULLY it won't be more than 6 months. I am dreading it.

If I can break it in slowly it would be OK: Let me come in at noon, wearing my jammies, with my dogs, then slowly take away the things I like about working for myself, lol.

If you're going to work, might as well make all the money for yourself instead of someone else - it' the ONLY way to live/work for me.

Mr. Romance · 01-22-2007, 09:12 AM

Its not easy...nothing is that is worth something

Mr. Romance

nico-t · 01-22-2007, 09:27 AM

true dat my niggas, true dat.

Masterchief · 03-18-2007, 12:24 AM

bump for truth

DonkeyPunchProductions · 03-18-2007, 12:32 AM

thank you...

flashfire · 03-18-2007, 12:43 AM

very much how I feel...but it kinda makes me cheap because I want to save all my money so there is no chance I will ever have to go back

01-19-2007, 10:01 PM	#1
ryph Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NJ Posts: 1,215	Self-Employment is like Crack I was just going through some old files stored away from ages ago, and I came across this little rant posted here on gfy some years ago. It really hits home, and I remember reading it over each adn every time things were looking bad when I was first starting out. I figured id repost it, as I'm sure this hit close to home to a lot of folks on here as well. Self-Employment is like crack... Those who know, know. You start working for yourself and make more and more money. Pretty soon you are making more money than you ever have before, and the whole time you're having a blast. Next thing you know you are fucking spoiled rotten. No matter how bad shit gets you can't imagine going back to a real fucking job. Pushing pencils or running somebody elses business? Me fucking run your shit while I take home a whopping $10 a fucking hour? I'd rather fucking die! You push yourself as hard as you can because theres no way in hell you could ever do that again. No matter what happens you'd rather live on the street than have to punch a fucking timeclock. You are going to do whatever the fuck it takes to make money you can call your own. It may be a pain in the ass but it's YOUR pain and YOUR ass. You'll get lazy and shit will go wrong. But when it does, you can damn sure figure it out and you will survive. You WILL do whatever the fuck you have to for things to work. And when your wife or girlfriend says you work to much and/or don't spend enough time with them you will tell them to fuck off with their spoiled ass because NO FUCKING WAY you are going to let your business slide to the point where you have to sign your name to a job application. Aside from the fact that I can no longer force myself to work for somebody how do you people get by on $10, $15, or even $30 a fucking hour? I don't have much of anything but $30 an hour wouldn't fucking touch the notes I have. Beware noobs, once you reach a certain point there is no turning back. You would rather fucking die. __________________ tom at ryphs dot com

01-19-2007, 10:09 PM	#2
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01-19-2007, 10:12 PM	#3
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01-19-2007, 10:13 PM	#4
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01-19-2007, 10:21 PM	#5
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01-19-2007, 10:24 PM	#7
teg0 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gringo in Puerto Rico Posts: 4,204	I've already gotten to that point. I was in a supermarket the other day and and heard some girl talking to a friend about how she just got a $13 hour job. Talking about it like she just won the lotto or something.

01-19-2007, 10:53 PM	#9
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	I would agree

01-20-2007, 01:24 AM	#10
pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	It's a good point....but rather die? Naaa.....8 hours a day doing security or tech support would be pretty funny. Remember that #....its only 8 hours, & at the end of your 8-5, you can do whatever the fuck you want & live your life. Our businesses are all time consuming & life consuming. 12, 14, 18, 20 hours a day......most of the people here can't even sleep without dreaming in code & stats. It really is a toss up....get rich & die quick due to stress. Or be poor & take some assholes bullshit all day, but live till your 80+ : ) Me, i'll get rich & die quick.

01-20-2007, 02:20 AM	#11
CC Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,690	So true. I love not having to work for the man at an office Monday - Friday with people I hate.

01-20-2007, 02:34 AM	#12
wyldworx So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: oz-trailer Posts: 5,144	It is a hard one, but I would ask this. Why would one want to go backwards, I have found this industry to be more forgiving than most, and more desirable. Crack just makes you look ugly and scatters the fuck out of you till there is no more to scatter!!

01-20-2007, 02:34 AM	#13
DateDoc Outside looking in. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: To Hell You Ride Posts: 14,243	The more you make the more you want. You hit a $1k day in sales and you begin to think ok what do i have to do to double that and it turns out it isn't really that hard. You do have to work a lot but I'd rather bust my ass for 10 years and make more than I can spend and retire than worry about what every one is doing tonight or the next night, etc. __________________

01-20-2007, 02:35 AM	#14
tabasco Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In a van down by the river Posts: 2,624	Good read. I'm at that point now - pretty sure I'm gonna quite my job in next few weeks to peddle porn fulltime and also get a couple of mainstream projects off the ground. In six months doing this only part time I've managed to exceed my day job pay by a decent margin. 6 months ago I didn't have a clue about this industry or how to make even the most basic html page or any of it, and I still have lots to learn. But I've been working my fucking ass off on this because I soon saw the potential to be able to do this fulltime and not have to drag my ass to a job I don't really like every day for the next 40 years whilst barely making enough to cover the mortgage. Fuck that shit... I'm gonna back myself to do this. __________________ "There is no other way to see a thing except to look at it" - fatfoo

01-20-2007, 02:55 AM	#15
sicone Retired Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Sac Posts: 18,453	when put that way, yes it is like crack __________________

01-20-2007, 08:05 AM	#17
selena Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: On The Edge Posts: 7,994	I'd agree with the vast majority of that post. I don't have a lot of free time but when I do, and I'm asked to go do something, my first thought always is "but I could be working". __________________ ~ Doer of Things at MetArtMoney Where Flawless Beauty Meets Art ~The MetArt Network ~ selena.delgado9

01-20-2007, 08:28 AM	#18
jerzeemedia Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,532	Let me input here, I quit my job about 3 years ago now. That post, is so very true; at least it is for me. I work sometimes a couple of days in a row without sleep just because I know my work will pay off, and it'll result in the many benefits of not having an employer. Times can get pretty rough, but if you can fight through them (as it's very hard to usually), they usually improve with some extra elbow grease. Hang in there, all my self-employed friends and strugglers. __________________ Free Adult Blog Hosting http://www.waqn.com free porn www.mojohost.com - Best guys, best host.

01-20-2007, 08:43 AM	#20
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01-20-2007, 08:50 AM	#21
BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	yes i agree. there have been rough times where people told me 'maybe i should get a real job' because i wasn't making very much. fuck that i thought, i'll get back up there and sure enough things got better again and im back making more money than them again. and most definitely is about a relaxed lifestyle to me. i love to be able to go back to bed in the morning, not have a schedule, not have to commute and not have to listen to anyone but me. __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

01-20-2007, 09:13 AM	#22
Marshal Biz Dev and SEO Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 15,181	yep, self-employments is like crack! i've found out i was in top ten earnings in my town, and i'm sure this is the point where's no comming back! __________________ --- Busy ranking websites on Google...

01-20-2007, 09:15 AM	#23
Zester Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 5,344	good read. i'm doing this part time and got to the point my sites work for themselves - I don't have to do anything but read emails every now and then. i don't have much trouble with my day job so I got my ass covered either way: if porn dies tomorrow - still got my day job which is enough income, and if I get fired from my day job - HA! who gives a fuck, I got a salary doing things that makes me jerk off and now I will have to jerk off full time - poor me !! HAHAHA!! __________________ * Mainstream ? $65 per sale * new male contraception Last edited by Zester; 01-20-2007 at 09:16 AM..

01-20-2007, 09:23 AM	#25
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01-20-2007, 09:51 AM	#26
Herb Kornfield Is on the 1 Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Philly Burbs Posts: 4,996	Indeed it is ... It is the best feeling in the world to know that you are the master of your destiny.

01-20-2007, 09:57 AM	#27
Buzz Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,908	Believe me or not, but I LOVE THE "CRACK"!

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01-20-2007, 01:37 PM	#34
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01-20-2007, 01:47 PM	#35
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01-20-2007, 01:48 PM	#36
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01-20-2007, 02:00 PM	#37
Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE MOBILE PORN: IMOBILEPORN Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Tinseltown NL Posts: 16,502	i was self employeed for 4 years doing this shit, now i have a job that i work 5PM till 10PM, it helps alot, sure its GUARANTEED money, which is nice, because my shit could flop and i wouldn't make any sales for like 2 weeks, that would suck, but yeah... it also helps me get away from this because recently, id get lazy and not wanna do anything, well being away from the comp for 5-6 hours a day 4 days aweek really helps keep me motivated and not burnt out, i will most likely keep this job even if i'm making more an hour with my website then i am a whole 6 months at this job, just to keep things fresh and not boring

01-20-2007, 02:54 PM	#39
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	Money money money,must be funny,it's a richman world

01-20-2007, 03:46 PM	#40
mavtaxi Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 65	KlenTelaris, well put ... it's just money.... __________________ http://deepthroatsucking.sexbrides.com/

01-20-2007, 04:39 PM	#41
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01-20-2007, 04:48 PM	#42
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01-20-2007, 04:55 PM	#43
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