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  • ryph
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2002
    • 1225

    #1

    Self-Employment is like Crack

    I was just going through some old files stored away from ages ago, and I came across this little rant posted here on gfy some years ago. It really hits home, and I remember reading it over each adn every time things were looking bad when I was first starting out. I figured id repost it, as I'm sure this hit close to home to a lot of folks on here as well.

    Self-Employment is like crack...

    Those who know, know.

    You start working for yourself and make more and more money. Pretty soon you are making
    more money than you ever have before, and the whole time you're having a blast. Next
    thing you know you are fucking spoiled rotten. No matter how bad shit gets you can't
    imagine going back to a real fucking job. Pushing pencils or running somebody elses
    business? Me fucking run your shit while I take home a whopping $10 a fucking hour? I'd
    rather fucking die!

    You push yourself as hard as you can because theres no way in hell you could ever do
    that again. No matter what happens you'd rather live on the street than have to punch
    a fucking timeclock. You are going to do whatever the fuck it takes to make money you
    can call your own. It may be a pain in the ass but it's YOUR pain and YOUR ass. You'll
    get lazy and shit will go wrong. But when it does, you can damn sure figure it out and
    you will survive. You WILL do whatever the fuck you have to for things to work.

    And when your wife or girlfriend says you work to much and/or don't spend enough time
    with them you will tell them to fuck off with their spoiled ass because NO FUCKING WAY
    you are going to let your business slide to the point where you have to sign your name
    to a job application.

    Aside from the fact that I can no longer force myself to work for somebody how do you
    people get by on $10, $15, or even $30 a fucking hour? I don't have much of anything but
    $30 an hour wouldn't fucking touch the notes I have.


    Beware noobs, once you reach a certain point there is no turning back. You would rather
    fucking die.
    tom at ryphs dot com
  • Dagwolf
    President of Canada
    • Sep 2003
    • 23141

    #2
    It's like that even if you don't make loads. I value my freedom.
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    • starpimps
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      • Sep 2006
      • 6954

      #3
      wow...well put.
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      • escorpio
        doesn't fuck around.
        • Oct 2002
        • 23481

        #4
        Thanks, that was some inspiration I needed. Going through a rough period.
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        • Splum
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          • May 2003
          • 6195

          #5
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          • woj
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            • Jul 2002
            • 47880

            #6
            well said
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            • teg0
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              • Jan 2006
              • 4204

              #7
              I've already gotten to that point. I was in a supermarket the other day and and heard some girl talking to a friend about how she just got a $13 hour job. Talking about it like she just won the lotto or something.

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              • scotty2hotty1111
                Confirmed User
                • Apr 2006
                • 1113

                #8
                Originally posted by ryph
                once you reach a certain point there is no turning back. You would rather
                fucking die.
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                • tony299
                  lurker
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 57021

                  #9
                  I would agree

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                  • pr0
                    rockin tha trailerpark
                    • May 2001
                    • 23088

                    #10
                    It's a good point....but rather die? Naaa.....8 hours a day doing security or tech support would be pretty funny. Remember that #....its only 8 hours, & at the end of your 8-5, you can do whatever the fuck you want & live your life.

                    Our businesses are all time consuming & life consuming. 12, 14, 18, 20 hours a day......most of the people here can't even sleep without dreaming in code & stats.

                    It really is a toss up....get rich & die quick due to stress. Or be poor & take some assholes bullshit all day, but live till your 80+ : )

                    Me, i'll get rich & die quick.
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                    • CC
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2001
                      • 1690

                      #11
                      So true. I love not having to work for the man at an office Monday - Friday with people I hate.

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                      • wyldworx
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 5144

                        #12
                        It is a hard one, but I would ask this. Why would one want to go backwards, I have found this industry to be more forgiving than most, and more desirable. Crack just makes you look ugly and scatters the fuck out of you till there is no more to scatter!!

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                        • DateDoc
                          Outside looking in.
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 14243

                          #13
                          The more you make the more you want. You hit a $1k day in sales and you begin to think ok what do i have to do to double that and it turns out it isn't really that hard. You do have to work a lot but I'd rather bust my ass for 10 years and make more than I can spend and retire than worry about what every one is doing tonight or the next night, etc.

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                          • tabasco
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 2624

                            #14
                            Good read. I'm at that point now - pretty sure I'm gonna quite my job in next few weeks to peddle porn fulltime and also get a couple of mainstream projects off the ground.

                            In six months doing this only part time I've managed to exceed my day job pay by a decent margin. 6 months ago I didn't have a clue about this industry or how to make even the most basic html page or any of it, and I still have lots to learn. But I've been working my fucking ass off on this because I soon saw the potential to be able to do this fulltime and not have to drag my ass to a job I don't really like every day for the next 40 years whilst barely making enough to cover the mortgage.

                            Fuck that shit... I'm gonna back myself to do this.
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                            • sicone
                              Retired
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 18453

                              #15
                              when put that way, yes it is like crack

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                              • ryph
                                Confirmed User
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 1225

                                #16
                                Originally posted by pr0
                                It's a good point....but rather die? Naaa.....8 hours a day doing security or tech support would be pretty funny. Remember that #....its only 8 hours, & at the end of your 8-5, you can do whatever the fuck you want & live your life.

                                Our businesses are all time consuming & life consuming. 12, 14, 18, 20 hours a day......most of the people here can't even sleep without dreaming in code & stats.

                                It really is a toss up....get rich & die quick due to stress. Or be poor & take some assholes bullshit all day, but live till your 80+ : )

                                Me, i'll get rich & die quick.
                                Actually, yes rather die. Not sure how hard you work, but I'm sure most established people have gotten to the point where it's very laid back. Wake up around noonish, check some emails, checks stats. Grab some food.. bs watching tv. Dabble in some projects till 8ish and go out and do whatever with friends who do have 9-5s.
                                12, 14, 18 hrs a day? Christ. Maybe if a must be done project came along, sure I've pulled 48hr sessions straight. But thats the exception not the norm.
                                Self employment is supposed to be about relaxed lifestyle, not JUST the money.
                                Last edited by ryph; 01-20-2007, 05:55 AM.
                                tom at ryphs dot com

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                                • selena
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2004
                                  • 7995

                                  #17
                                  I'd agree with the vast majority of that post.

                                  I don't have a lot of free time but when I do, and I'm asked to go do something, my first thought always is "but I could be working".
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                                  • jerzeemedia
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • May 2004
                                    • 1532

                                    #18
                                    Let me input here, I quit my job about 3 years ago now. That post, is so very true; at least it is for me. I work sometimes a couple of days in a row without sleep just because I know my work will pay off, and it'll result in the many benefits of not having an employer. Times can get pretty rough, but if you can fight through them (as it's very hard to usually), they usually improve with some extra elbow grease. Hang in there, all my self-employed friends and strugglers.
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                                    • polish_aristocrat
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Jul 2002
                                      • 40377

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by BusterPorn
                                      The more you make the more you want. You hit a $1k day in sales and you begin to think ok what do i have to do to double that and it turns out it isn't really that hard.
                                      congrats on earning $2k per day

                                      Originally posted by ryph
                                      Self employment is supposed to be about relaxed lifestyle, not JUST the money.
                                      definitely
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                                      • DraX
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                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 7147

                                        #20
                                        very intreresting post, made me think twice
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                                        • BlackCrayon
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Jun 2003
                                          • 19634

                                          #21
                                          yes i agree. there have been rough times where people told me 'maybe i should get a real job' because i wasn't making very much. fuck that i thought, i'll get back up there and sure enough things got better again and im back making more money than them again. and most definitely is about a relaxed lifestyle to me. i love to be able to go back to bed in the morning, not have a schedule, not have to commute and not have to listen to anyone but me.
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                                          • Marshal
                                            Biz Dev and SEO
                                            • Jun 2005
                                            • 15219

                                            #22
                                            yep, self-employments is like crack! i've found out i was in top ten earnings in my town, and i'm sure this is the point where's no comming back!
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                                            • Zester
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jul 2003
                                              • 5344

                                              #23
                                              good read.
                                              i'm doing this part time and got to the point my sites work for themselves - I don't have to do anything but read emails every now and then.
                                              i don't have much trouble with my day job so I got my ass covered either way: if porn dies tomorrow - still got my day job which is enough income, and if I get fired from my day job - HA! who gives a fuck, I got a salary doing things that makes me jerk off and now I will have to jerk off full time - poor me !! HAHAHA!!
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                                              • Mr. E
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Mar 2006
                                                • 453

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by teg0
                                                I've already gotten to that point. I was in a supermarket the other day and and heard some girl talking to a friend about how she just got a $13 hour job. Talking about it like she just won the lotto or something.
                                                LMAO! Yea, thats funny when that happens.

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                                                • Alphonso
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                                                  • Dec 2005
                                                  • 544

                                                  #25
                                                  So true !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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                                                  • Herb Kornfield
                                                    Is on the 1
                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                    • 4996

                                                    #26
                                                    Indeed it is ...

                                                    It is the best feeling in the world to know that you are the master of your destiny.

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                                                    • Buzz
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Apr 2004
                                                      • 1908

                                                      #27
                                                      Believe me or not, but I LOVE THE "CRACK"!

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                                                      • martinsc
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Jun 2005
                                                        • 27043

                                                        #28
                                                        just keep in mind it's not only about the money...
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                                                        • Adultnet
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                                                          • Sep 2003
                                                          • 8713

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Herb Kornfield
                                                          Indeed it is ...

                                                          It is the best feeling in the world to know that you are the master of your destiny.
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                                                          • Barefootsies
                                                            Choice is an Illusion
                                                            • Feb 2005
                                                            • 42635

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Splum
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                                                            True dat.

                                                            I use the same reference in "being free from the Matrix".

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                                                            • Barefootsies
                                                              Choice is an Illusion
                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                              • 42635

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                              congrats on earning $2k per day



                                                              definitely
                                                              Cheers

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                                                              • SkeetSkeet
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                                                                • Oct 2005
                                                                • 5404

                                                                #32
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                                                                  #33
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                                                                  • free4porn
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                                                                    • Jun 2005
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                                                                    #34
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                                                                    • DaddyHalbucks
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                                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                                      • 18975

                                                                      #35
                                                                      That point for me was $0 per hour. I quit my job when I was broke and had no income from webmastering.

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                                                                      • Boobs
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                                                                        • Aug 2006
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                                                                        #36
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          i was self employeed for 4 years doing this shit, now i have a job that i work 5PM till 10PM, it helps alot, sure its GUARANTEED money, which is nice, because my shit could flop and i wouldn't make any sales for like 2 weeks, that would suck, but yeah... it also helps me get away from this because recently, id get lazy and not wanna do anything, well being away from the comp for 5-6 hours a day 4 days aweek really helps keep me motivated and not burnt out, i will most likely keep this job even if i'm making more an hour with my website then i am a whole 6 months at this job, just to keep things fresh and not boring

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                                                                          • scottybuzz
                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                            • May 2006
                                                                            • 14799

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Madrox
                                                                            i was self employeed for 4 years doing this shit, now i have a job that i work 5PM till 10PM, it helps alot, sure its GUARANTEED money, which is nice, because my shit could flop and i wouldn't make any sales for like 2 weeks, that would suck, but yeah... it also helps me get away from this because recently, id get lazy and not wanna do anything, well being away from the comp for 5-6 hours a day 4 days aweek really helps keep me motivated and not burnt out, i will most likely keep this job even if i'm making more an hour with my website then i am a whole 6 months at this job, just to keep things fresh and not boring
                                                                            same here I have a part time job. Just in case sales slump and stay at 0. at least i got a back up and dont have to wait 2 months just to get registered to get a job.
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                                                                            • Klen
                                                                              • Aug 2006
                                                                              • 32234

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Money money money,must be funny,it's a richman world

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                                                                              • mavtaxi
                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                • Jan 2007
                                                                                • 65

                                                                                #40
                                                                                KlenTelaris, well put ... it's just money....
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                                                                                • Ecchi22
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                                                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                                                  • 10012

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Nice thread, thanks.

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                                                                                  • J. Falcon
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                                                                                    • May 2006
                                                                                    • 31587

                                                                                    #42
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                                                                                    • madawgz
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                                                                                      • Mar 2006
                                                                                      • 30509

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      yeah i know exactly what your talking about
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                                                                                      • reynold
                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                                        • 51271

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Herb Kornfield
                                                                                        Indeed it is ...

                                                                                        It is the best feeling in the world to know that you are the master of your destiny.
                                                                                        I agree with this.

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                                                                                        • Peaches
                                                                                          Old broad
                                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                                          • 13933

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          This could not be more true. I've worked for myself full time for 11 years now. I'm going to have to serve some time in a few months in an office working for a paycheck. HOPEFULLY it won't be more than 6 months. I am dreading it. If I can break it in slowly it would be OK: Let me come in at noon, wearing my jammies, with my dogs, then slowly take away the things I like about working for myself, lol.

                                                                                          If you're going to work, might as well make all the money for yourself instead of someone else - it' the ONLY way to live/work for me.

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                                                                                          • Mr. Romance
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                                                                                            • Mar 2005
                                                                                            • 7821

                                                                                            #46
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                                                                                            • nico-t
                                                                                              emperor of my world
                                                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                                                              • 29901

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              true dat my niggas, true dat.

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                                                                                              • Masterchief
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Jun 2006
                                                                                                • 530

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                bump for truth

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                                                                                                • DonkeyPunchProductions
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                                                                                                  • Dec 2005
                                                                                                  • 188

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  thank you...

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                                                                                                  • flashfire
                                                                                                    ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2
                                                                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                                                                    • 13098

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    very much how I feel...but it kinda makes me cheap because I want to save all my money so there is no chance I will ever have to go back

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