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I wonder how much he would be making without the affiliates. |
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1. Suck up to client. 2. Get owned. 3. Backpedal from thread, insulting everyone on the way out. Did I miss anything? Bring your debate-hat next time you decide to make such a poorly thought out comment in a business thread. Thanks. |
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:1orglaugh :1orglaugh Dear sir, please let me know if you'll ever consider letting my traffic grace your sites. Quote:
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Right now what I see is a $5 fee because Mayor wants to make a point, and charge me a tax because he doesn't agree with how I do business.. Waive the fee or see the last of me I think on this one.. Bad PR for you too bro. Nobody would complain to cover postage, $2 seems reasonable and more importantly fair. If you're not going to play fair, then fuck it why should I? |
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if you want to argue/insult with me please try to have something intelligent to say or just do yourself a favor and refrain from replying to me. |
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I cant believe what this thread turned into. Just a mess, a real fucking mess.
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Not to stick my nose where it doesnt belong, but im kinda surprised nobody made this point yet.
why should the little guy have to pay the higher check fees and the whale get it free? Because you make more money from the whales right away? Think of it this way: The whales, you pay them all their money all the time ( you dont get to hold it ) The little guy ( a sale every now and then ) you get to hold their money untill they hit the min payout. Therefor you have more money to invest in your own inhouse traffic/sales and make just that much more money. So the whale who you dont get to hold his money and make money from it, you pay them for free. But the lil guy who, you get to invest his money to make more for yourself untill they hit they min payout, you charge them that much more to get their check? Im not at all bitching about the 5$ fee as it is only 3$ more, but it just doesnt make sense to me. |
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Good on you for not supporting checks. They are a VERY old form of payment and USA is probably one of the only remaining counties in the WORLD that still uses them.
ive not offered check payouts as an option to affiliates for almost 3 years now. We live in an electronic age and you are (webmasters) promoting digital goods - you sure as hell better embrace the technology by having a digital account :) Good on you Mayor! |
If there is anyone that should be picked on, it's the bucketload of sponsors that take out the $2 epassporte charges to do a transfer.......
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that's not much
janswebring.com takes 30$ for my wire transfer each time |
[QUOTE=AaronM;11691583]Rabbit, I'm honestly surprised to read this. I know for a fact that you have great traffic and a nominal $5 fee should not concern you in the least.
QUOTE] it's a matter of principle... |
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If it was only $5.
Let's say I have 30 sponsors that each pay weekly. Each one starts charging $5. 30 X 5 * 52 = $7800 in a year. "But wait!" you say. "it isn't 30 sponsors, it is just 1!". That is today. But trust me, if sponsors think they can foist another expense off onto the affiliate side of the deal and get away with it, they pretty much all will. Some of them will even be gutsy and start chariging $10 for checks (and $8 for Epass, making Epass the "better bargain becauseyou save $2 for processing!") and away you go. I have a new plan. I am going to claim $5 per week per sponsor as "income handling fees". Obviously, it costs me money to process incoming payments, and if they can justify $5 to write a check, I can justify $5 for having to take it to the bank. |
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Also I find it rather amusing, how they handle this situation...Why not say 500USD check FREE <500USD a 5USD fee in the first post....No they first make some stupid comments about peoples website(s)...Oh well, |
5 bucks is nothing in the big scope of things. Mayors Money Rocks and is run by solid people. If 5 bucks for a check affects you that much then maybe you need to get into some other biz as you are obviously a failure in this one.:2 cents:
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LOL I know you're not new but you're sure acting like it ;) If you have traffic (real traffic) your a fucktard if you don't negotiate a higher payout and thus cover any wire/check/epass/moron fees :) You guys make me laugh :) Big announcement coming soon . . . |
Mayor, I read you loud and clear. Got it. Thanks.
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As for buying the drinks, since Mike's been my customer periodically through the years, I generally pay for those. |
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Charging anything for making a payment (except via transfer when that is optional) is bad business and worse psychology: you convince someone to get as far as your signup page, pulling him/her in with all the good stuff you promise, and then you hit them with charges, high minimums, etc.
Even if only to a limited extent, that has to be counter-productive. It always sends a signal to me that here is a business which hasn't bothered to find a non-negative way to deal with such issues. Of course it costs money to issue payments, the same way as it does to rent an office or run a telephone. But it's downright unprofessional to itemize those costs and pass them on (publicly) to people you want to feel as positive as possible about working with you, rather than have you come across as penny-pinching... |
It's all mute point now anyway since we added the "big check" option. But I really do like reading hate posts from kids I have never met, have never affected my business in any way and who have no clue what they are talking about.
Guys like Rabbit, I have had great dealings with and their opinions matter to me. When they speak it's well thought out and it's received well and usually acted on. Fake nic/newb morons like knightdown are down right cute they way they show off their extra chromosome ;) |
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if you can't read through the shit and see that he doesn't want to pay for the postage and time to send out 1000's of small checks and this increase is his way to make money off of people he thinks are stupid for still using checks then I guess you can't see the obvious. If that is his reasoning then so be it, If he is going to insult people and be blunt in that regard why not be honest about why you putting the charge in place? |
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If I send the same traffic to program "A" and he pays me $10000 , that I send to B who pays me $8000 , but "A" charges me $1000 to send me my check...
I'm still sending to A. Its not about the fee for the check , its about the size of the check ;) |
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One thing Mayor needs to learn is that there are 1000's of affiliate companies out there. True, I wouldn't drop their company if I was already using them and I would have them waive the "moron" fee as he put it. But I am not using your company. I have thousands to choose from, you are one of many. I can only try out a few at a time. Stupid shit like this and your attitude here is more then enough reason for me to skip you and try someone else this week. And all of you others who are still hung up on the " it's only $5 and checks are so 80's" etc... damn, you are clueless. |
Will, thanks for keeping the thread alive as it seems to be attracting a number of new quality affiliates for us... :pimp
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nice try, i never heard that one before. :upsidedow |
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and true, there are 1000s programs but we certainly tend to set trends rather than follow them and that's why people do business with us... :thumbsup |
This could have been all solved if the initial posts were not about insulting people and explained the reason for wanting to do this ...
Instead all it has been is a bash fest and it is just making people look more and more bad. I don't think the point was ever as much the $5 as compared to how people are being treated in this thread. And by the way not a big player by any means somewhere over $500 dollars for the year with MM I guess that throws me into the category of being made fun of so go ahead if it makes you feel better. |
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