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Old 01-13-2007, 02:15 AM   #151
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Old 01-13-2007, 12:54 PM   #152
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the anti-.xxx letters from Christian groups start coming in

I wonder if the Family Research Council will get involved again as well...
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Old 01-19-2007, 04:14 AM   #153
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another article

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/viewstor...20070119a.html


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'.XXX' Domain Name Under Consideration Again
By Nathan Burchfiel
CNSNews.com Staff Writer
January 19, 2007

(CNSNews.com) - The organization in charge of approving Internet domains has reintroduced a controversial proposal to create a domain registry specifically for pornographic content.

The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) in June 2005 approved the creation of the ".xxx" domain. But in May 2006, the organization voted against a contract with domain distributor ICM Registry, in part because of outcry from conservative family groups.

Since then, the ICANN and ICM Registry have worked to revise the terms of the original contract, adding policies aimed at prohibiting child pornography, requiring content labeling, prohibiting deceptive marketing and prohibiting unsolicited marketing.

ICANN began accepting public feedback on the revised contract on Jan. 5 and conservatives have relaunched a campaign to prevent its creation.

An Internet domain name points browsers to a website. For example, browsers can reach Cybercast News Service's website by entering www.cnsnews.com or www.cnsnews.org into their browser. Both domain names direct readers to the same website.

The same concept would apply to the new .xxx domain names. Owners of pre-existing or new adult websites could purchase the domain name and direct it to their site, making it easier for web surfers to find their page.

Opponents of the new domain worry that it will encourage more pornographic content on the Internet.

"Proliferating pornography will not protect children from pornography," the Christian group Focus on the Family said in an email to its members. "It will only increase the risk of exposure. Even if some families use filters to block XXX sites, children in families who don't will be at greater risk of exposure than before."

Focus on the Family also complains that creating the adult-only domain "would confer legitimacy to an industry that regularly scoffs at the law. It's like creating a free-market zone for drug dealers or prostitutes to operate more effectively."

The group has urged its members to oppose the new domain, comparing Internet pornography to "an unholy monster."

ICM Registry says the new domain "will create a clearly identifiable area of the Internet so that Internet users can be more informed when choosing to select or avoid adult entertainment sites."

Stuart Lawley, president of ICM, told Cybercast News Service that requirements for the new domain will make it easier for concerned parents to filter out adult content by offering owners of pornographic websites an incentive to label their pages with content tags that filtering software can read.

Website owners who purchase an ".xxx domain" to direct more browsers to their site will be required to label their page with content-specific tags that filtering software can recognize and block.

The tag would apply to all the domains pointing to the page, making it easier for filter software to block adult websites also registered under generic domains like ".com" or ".net," which do not require content tags.

ICM Registry says on its website that the adult domain is "for responsible members of the online adult entertainment industry and those that supply products and/or services to it." Part of the $60 annual fee for registering an .xxx domain would go to an independent governing body that would set policies for website owners who use the domain.

ICANN has received hundreds of comments from the public since the revised proposal was submitted Jan. 5, and the organization will continue to accept public comment until Feb. 5.

The feedback so far is opposed to the new domain by a margin of about 5-to-1.

Some of the opponents claim to be owners of adult websites who say they will not switch from .com to .xxx.

"Just for your information - about 95 percent of adult webmasters are opposed to the .xxx idea," one commenter identified as WebmasterCEO said. "We will not move our websites there!"

But Lawley said his company began offering reservations for the new domains in May 2006 and has "had a tremendous response."
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Old 01-19-2007, 07:17 AM   #155
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Here's some more info from our accidental supporters:

http://www.ynot.com/modules.php?op=m...le &sid=22742
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Old 01-19-2007, 07:50 AM   #156
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.....The feedback so far is opposed to the new domain by a margin of about 5-to-1.
Lets make it 100 to 1!
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Old 01-19-2007, 11:49 AM   #157
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where do these people come from?

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To whom it may concern,

As an adult webmaster I support .xxx. I am convinced it can make a difference
if our industry chooses to self regulate, rather than being forced to.

Ms. L. Peters
http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-icm.../msg00295.html


or

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Please get going with .XXX. THe delay has been long enough. I will use .xxx
for my sites.

Dennis Piper

http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-icm.../msg00249.html


and especially this one

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Please approve Dot.xxx

The comments against Dot.xxx amaze me!

In one letter a women expressed that it will make porn more accessible, how?
It can't get any more accessible than it currently is today. What it can do is
help webmasters identify their URLs to indicate content.

This same person does not seem to be aware of the trend to create special
suffixes, ie. .travel, .jobs, .aero, and so on.

In another email a person says that the cost will prohibit adoption because of
the high price. His stated price of $75 is TWENTY ONE cents per day. Sir, how
much per day do you pay for your Double Latte? The cost that webmasters pay
for their domains is a write off. Being that Dot.xxx will make more attractive
shorter strings available will clearly offset the cost. Only a speculator would
scoff at the price.

Another writer says that Dot.xxx will legitimize the porn industry. Lady, WE
are legitimate. The porn industry pays taxes that go to building roads,
supporting our Military, feeding and clothing hungry children, and everything
else that tax dollars do. MY tax dollars subsidize your Churches that are TAX
EXEMPT and DO NOT pay tax!

P.s. if you want to de-legitimize porno you need to elect people who will make
it illegal and STOP profiteering by accepting taxes from its sales. Not by
ignoring that it exists and refusing to label it.

Nearly every negative posting I read speaks of fear and ignorance.

Porn will exist with or without Dot.xxx.

Identification at the TLD level will NOT exist without Dot.xxx.

People need to stop fearing the truth; porn exists, has always, and will
always. Wouldn?t you rather live in a world where at least part of it is
labeled?

Please approve Dot.xxx

Sincerely,

Rick Wilkins
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http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-icm.../msg00303.html


are the ICM guys paying college kids to send such comments? Or are some people just retarded?

Anyway, looks like not much webmasters from GFY or not much adult companies are sending their anti-xxx emails anymore. The most anti-.xxx comments come now from religious groups supporters...
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Old 01-19-2007, 01:29 PM   #158
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Anyway, looks like not much webmasters from GFY or not much adult companies are sending their anti-xxx emails anymore. The most anti-.xxx comments come now from religious groups supporters...
Nope, still haven't seen a single email from a sponsor to affiliates addressing this.
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what I don't understand is that if it's not mandetory at first but they do eventually make it mandetory won't there be a asslickers.com and an asslickers.xxx? so then you fuck over the guy with the .com domain? I really don't see how this is going to work. the people who are responsible for making the internet popular are the ones who are going to be punished are they not? I'm sure that there will be lots of people who go out and buy up all of the popular sites then like sex.xxx, danni.xxx, hustler.xxx, you get the point. who is going to govern that? also how is it that the US now governs the internet? i don't see how they can be the ones enacting laws that effect ppl all over the world. the US doesn't even represent 10% of the worlds population yet they can govern the internet? how does this work?
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what I don't understand is that if it's not mandetory at first but they do eventually make it mandetory won't there be a asslickers.com and an asslickers.xxx? so then you fuck over the guy with the .com domain? I really don't see how this is going to work. the people who are responsible for making the internet popular are the ones who are going to be punished are they not? I'm sure that there will be lots of people who go out and buy up all of the popular sites then like sex.xxx, danni.xxx, hustler.xxx, you get the point. who is going to govern that? also how is it that the US now governs the internet? i don't see how they can be the ones enacting laws that effect ppl all over the world. the US doesn't even represent 10% of the worlds population yet they can govern the internet? how does this work?
I fear the probability that some asshole AMERICAN legislators ( who are pandering to the radical right-wing religious hypocrites who pressure him/her/them into yet another mis-directed "to protect the children" bill or law, and/or those who contribute campaign donations to that/those legislators) will propose legislation to fence-out all AMERICAN dot com adult sites and force us into .xxx by going after ISP, or 3d-party billing, etc and imposing fines and/or jail time if we don't shut down our adult dot com sites. American law can't force foreign websites to go to .xxx, so they will flourish, hurt the income of American Adult dot com companies/sites, and fill the void and demand for our content by providing access to much harsher content from the former USSR and some Eastern-European and Asian that will make it a nightmare for everyone, including parents. Add to that the loss of sales, taxes and the increase in the balance of trade deficits, and AMERICA gets hosed:-(((.

This .xxx has got to be stopped; and, IMHO, any entity that previously supported .xxx needs to write ICANN and rescind their support NOW (and PUBLICLY?)!!!!!!!!!

Yes, this old fogey is upset by .xxx and the people behind it, those supporting it, and those not willing to now admit they made a mistake when they supported it in the past before all the real facts came out. I invite those of you who know the present supporters to "OUT" them, and I hope ALL of us will boycott any supporters of .xxx.

IMHO .xxx is suicide for American adult sites.

:-(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

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Old 01-20-2007, 04:39 AM   #161
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where do these people come from?
search a little for my recent posts about this and you will realize.
and probably after this post and after you search you still won't know who it is even thuo it is in front of your face.
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search a little for my recent posts about this and you will realize.
and probably after this post and after you search you still won't know who it is even thuo it is in front of your face.
you said you're gonna send pro-.xxx comments unless someone pays you to stop

sounded like a joke...
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Old 01-20-2007, 09:48 PM   #164
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Old 01-21-2007, 06:57 AM   #165
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i was reading through about the .XXX stuff.. at first i didn't understand the commotion.. now i can see the fucking frustration!

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ICM (http://www.icmregistry.com/) is going to tell you how to run your business. If .XXX gets approved, you must follow their "best business practices" or else lose your .XXX

There are bills in congress to make .XXX mandatory.
WTF! they can GFTS!
people dont want some other old guys telling you how to run your adult entertainment website!? It is an industry ran by its People! not by a rich guy that decided to get a TLD!!

My letter will be in!
what else can i include aswell as those points ?
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i was reading through about the .XXX stuff.. at first i didn't understand the commotion.. now i can see the fucking frustration!



WTF! they can GFTS!
people dont want some other old guys telling you how to run your adult entertainment website!? It is an industry ran by its People! not by a rich guy that decided to get a TLD!!

My letter will be in!
what else can i include aswell as those points ?
Sentiment is shared here
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If you haven't already, read

http://www.fightthedotxxx.com/

Bear in mind that if .xxx would become mandatory, you can pretty much say goodbye to most of your traffic.
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Old 01-21-2007, 03:33 PM   #169
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my final bump for the original thread from one month ago

one more week is left for public comments and then somewhere in February or March ICANN is likely to be voting again whether to accept .xxx or not
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Old 01-27-2007, 08:11 AM   #172
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here's a cute one:

http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-icm.../msg00441.html
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Maybe we can also have one for .news that will make it so that any news about
war, violent crimes, reports on drug use or anything else bad can be censored.

And even better yet, I think you should make a .gay .christian .muslim .jewish
.whites .black .hispanic .asian, etc

Just in case someone is offended by another race, religion or anything else
currently covered by free speech ..

If we create these suggested .tld's for Gay people and Races/Religions, etc we
can also charge the ones we don't like alot of money to each year to help
"regulate" them. And it will be easier to block those people out.

Maybe if we are lucky the government will step in later on and make it illegal
for Gays to have a .com so we aren't offended by it.

I think the majority of homosexuals and the religions and races would probably
support this!

Being able to censor these people will make it one step closer to a perfect
world!

By considering .xxx I must thank you for setting a precedence for similar
future tld's.

Thank you for opening the door to censorship discussion, it's about time!

Thank you
Fed up with Free Speech

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I will be finalizing my draft letter to oppose the .xxx this weekend. I stopped a couple of weeks back as I was compiling more to add to my letter. It will be in by the end of this weekend.


FUCK YOU Lawley, Choke On A FAT DICK
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BUMP...I know its an old thread, but it is an important thread!!!!
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still time to comment.

public comments will close on feb 5th

write to ICANN now. don't believe the propaganda that its over.
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damn not one person posts in over an hour on the front page to help keep the awareness up. sad.
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funny thing - the "Alec Helmly personally Supports .XXX" thread got more views in 24 hours than this thread during one month
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C'mon, we need EVERYONE'S letters to ICANN denouncing .xxx

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I voted against it more than once
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To whom it may concern:

I am an adult webmaster working in the adult online business. I am also a veteran of the USAF and a decorated E-5 Non Commissioned Officer. I was a Police Officer for 5 years from 1988-1993. To believe that a TLD itself will protect children and keep them safe is to be naïve and tunnel-visioned in our perception of what .XXX is designed to do, which is make a few people a lot of money at the expense of others. I strongly oppose .XXX as a method for preventing children from seeing adult materials online. The originator of this proposal is clearly motivated by money and the adult internet rejects his principals.

The .XXX TLD will not prevent children from seeing pornography on the Internet. The .XXX TLD will not prevent children from being preyed upon and abused by Internet predators. I don’t see Dateline with Chris Hansen talking about pornographic websites as a catalyst to those sick people that they snare on their “To Catch A Predator” show. The .XXX TLD will not stop pornographic unsolicited emails (SPAM). What .XXX will do is line the pockets of the proposals creator, nothing more. The proposals creator cares not of children.

.XXX will not make it any harder for children to access adult materials. Regardless of filtering or whatever other mechanisms we think that we can apply to a domain extension, nothing will work. What works is parents being responsible for their children by being aware of what they are doing. By proposing and enacting .KIDS, software may be installed that will only allow .KIDS domains to resolve. .COM will always have some sort of pornographic affiliated with it. There are renegades all over the world that really don’t care what TLDs we use. The only course of action is to hold parents accountable and provide them a tool (.KIDS) so they may allow only those .KIDS domains to resolve in their homes. If ICM/IFFOR care about children, they would be spending their time trying to get the .KIDS TLD passed. Please, help us all protect our children, nieces, nephews, and grandchildren by working towards a .KIDS TLD. Thank you for your consideration.

I’m not going to get longwinded on you as I am sure you have 1000’s of these to read. .XXX is a bad idea, designed by mere financial opportunists that recognized a potential opportunity. Lets not play their game, but instead do something that really will protect the countries children, and those around the world should other countries decide to follow in the path that is created by pushing through a .KIDS TLD.

Thank you

A concerned veteran


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I've written an op/ed for YNOT with my two cents (well... maybe more like a dime or two) on .XXX, and the nature of the industry's debate surrounding .XXX.

A brief excerpt:

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We have nothing close to a complete picture to work from in assessing the potential impact of .xxx would be, and I have a very hard time ?supporting? anything so entirely undefined.

What will the ?best practices? adopted by IFFOR consist of? We don?t know.

As it has been asserted by the ICM that it will fight to keep .xxx a purely voluntary measure, what shape will the eventual rules for operating a site on the .xxx domain take regarding links to adult sites hosted on other domains, or accepting traffic from sites on hosted on other domains? Again, we don?t know.

To support something so ill-defined, in my mind, is akin to supporting the political campaign of a candidate who professes no party affiliation, hasn?t answered any questions regarding the policy positions they favor, and to do so simply because that candidate has assured me ?I am for good things, especially those good things you will like.?

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The full op/ed is posted here for anyone interested in reading the rest.

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Old 02-15-2007, 06:36 PM   #183
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look what this moron said on the icann board regarding .xxx

lol at least she's against it, but what a fucking moron (she really doesn't want a website dedicated to porn!) read on:


Dear ICANN,

I appeal to you in the strongest terms as a mother, grandmother, woman,
and citizen not to establish an all pornography internet website. Pornography
is becoming addictive to so many men and young boys. I have witnessed its
effect personally in the lives of people close to me. I have seen one young
father lose his job as an engineer because of his addiction and viewing of
pornography on a corporate computer. I have seen young men who become
shamefully addicted loathe themselves for it, but have great difficulty
stopping. I have seen such addiction bring untold pain and anguish to family
members and have seen marriages severely damaged or destroyed as a result. I
know a young man who was subjected to viewing pornography as a young child and
who was also sexually preyed upon. He too has struggled with addiction to
pornography, despite the fact that he knows firsthand how horrible its effects
are. I have seen an appalling breakdown of virtue, decency, and moral pur!
ity among teens. In one classroom in a public middle school where my daughter
teaches two children engaged in oral sex in the middle of class. There is an
epidemic of oral sex among America's teen population. Many are now suffering
from oral STD's as a result. Pornography available on the internet is a plague
upon society. It proliferates a great evil. It promotes and legitimizes the
degradation and subjugation of millions. Sexual predators are spawned,
enflamed, and emboldened by it. Horrific crimes are committed as a result of
legitimizing such defiling behavior.
How is it that you are desirous of establishing such a site? Please do not
bring this guilt upon yourselves. Do not rationalize away for the sake of
material profit the responsibility you will bear before God for the pain,
degradation, and destruction of untold millions who will frequent your proposed
website. Do not think the lame excuse of people being able to block the site
if they don't want to view it will stand before God's judicial review.

Sincerely,
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will this never die ?
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amazing...a bump for this thread...

WTF is going on in this thread post 141?

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Send your emails opposing .xxx to [email protected]

Be sure to mention that you work in the industry, that you represent the company you work for, and name the company.

You have to respond to the confirming email you get from ICANN, otherwise your comment won't be counted.

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IMHO, this could eradicate a lot of us if we don't email ICANN and get this permanently defeated:-(((

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if I see 900 opposition emails by March 9 - I promise to go naked in the shower !
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if I see 900 opposition emails by March 9 - I promise to go naked in the shower !

Will it be all by yourself or accompanied by a young sweet lady or more of them?
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