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Old 07-19-2002, 02:34 AM   #1
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Would you like to see Israel take a beating?

Well?
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Old 07-19-2002, 04:48 AM   #2
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"I want peace"

Fucking tree-huggers! <img src="images/icons/1bluewinky.gif" align="middle" alt="">
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Old 07-19-2002, 05:25 AM   #3
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i prefer peace over people being killed
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Old 07-19-2002, 06:12 AM   #5
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since we're not going to prevent them from fighting, i think we should set up a rumble between palestine and israel, we transport all of them in one place and when we blow the whistle, they fight..and we record it of course
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Old 07-19-2002, 06:38 AM   #6
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I would like to see Israel moved. Give 'em Mississippi!
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Old 07-19-2002, 06:53 AM   #7
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since we're not going to prevent them from fighting, i think we should set up a rumble between palestine and israel, we transport all of them in one place and when we blow the whistle, they fight..and we record it of course

Good Idea, that could be the Bumfight part 2
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Old 07-19-2002, 07:14 AM   #8
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I say we dispose of some of our aging nuclear weapons and turn that little patch of dirty they keep fighting over in to a nice patch of brown glass.... "If you can share nicely, then neither one of you is getting it!"
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"If you cant share nicely, then neither one of you is getting it!"
Someone learned diplomacy from my parents.
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I've said it many times..... nothin' says lovin' like turning the homeland into a 500 mile-wide bowl of smoking glass.


Conflict? What conflict?
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Old 07-19-2002, 09:48 AM   #11
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As an Israeli citizen, I was disgusted by the question and some of the answers.
2 days ago 3 people were murdered in Tel Aviv after 2 suicide bombers detonated themselves over them only 8 miles from where I live.
3 days ago 9 Israelis were murdered after Palestinian terrorists opened fire at civilians.

After 9/11, when 3000 innocent American citizens were massacred by the world's biggest terrorist, I thought that at least Americans will see that terrorism must be fought 24/7/365 with "no buts".
Murderers (and their senders) of innocent people who detonate themselves over moms, dads & children with the intentional aim of murdering them do not deserve to live.

Posting a survey like the one you posted here is a disgrace.
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Old 07-19-2002, 09:51 AM   #12
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Not gonna happen. Israel has probably the best army in the world. Not to mention a kick ass air force [73 war notwithstanding].

Compare the US' Somalia campaign/fiasco with Israel's Entebbe rescue operation and you'll know what the hell I am talking about.
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Old 07-19-2002, 09:58 AM   #13
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As an Israeli citizen, I was disgusted by the question and some of the answers.
2 days ago 3 people were murdered in Tel Aviv after 2 suicide bombers detonated themselves over them only 8 miles from where I live.
3 days ago 9 Israelis were murdered after Palestinian terrorists opened fire at civilians.

After 9/11, when 3000 innocent American citizens were massacred by the world's biggest terrorist, I thought that at least Americans will see that terrorism must be fought 24/7/365 with "no buts".
Murderers (and their senders) of innocent people who detonate themselves over moms, dads & children with the intentional aim of murdering them do not deserve to live.

Posting a survey like the one you posted here is a disgrace.
Dont like it?

Give their land back.
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Not gonna happen. Israel has probably the best army in the world. Not to mention a kick ass air force [73 war notwithstanding].

Compare the US' Somalia campaign/fiasco with Israel's Entebbe rescue operation and you'll know what the hell I am talking about.
A better analogy would be the failed hostage rescue attempt during President Carter's term. That plan was virtually doomed to fail, and we were probably lucky that it failed in the first of its four phases. I don't know what military genius came up with that plan, but having spent more than 30 years in the Army, I can assure you that there are far too many of these genius types in the upper echelon.

Having said that it is usually civilian micro managment that is at fault when military operations go south, as was the case in Somalia.

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Old 07-19-2002, 10:04 AM   #15
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I say we dispose of some of our aging nuclear weapons and turn that little patch of dirty they keep fighting over in to a nice patch of brown glass.... "If you can share nicely, then neither one of you is getting it!"
Thats what i call "the final solution"
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why fuck with isreal they arent a bunch of terroristic ragheads?
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Old 07-19-2002, 10:25 AM   #17
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Dont like it?

Give their land back.
After you give the Detroit area to the red skins that lived there...
Arabs start the war and loose. The only Israel problem ? they cannot eliminate Palestinians like Americans eliminate red skins.
Just wondering how many US citizens suppose to be killed by Arabs before this stupid people will realize who is who in the Middle East
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Old 07-19-2002, 10:30 AM   #18
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why fuck with isreal they arent a bunch of terroristic ragheads?
it's the jewish thing...
ppl are dying in Africa...ppl getting killed in south east Asia...
but why ppl should care about it...when they can bitch about the middle east thing...
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Come on [Labret], be a stand up kind of guy and give Detroit back. Make mic's day.
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As an Israeli citizen, I was disgusted by the question and some of the answers.
Really? Tough shit. Many of us "Westerners" are simply sick to fucking DEATH of hearing day after day about all the BS bombings and fighting and endless attacks and retaliations in the God-damn fucking MIDDLE EAST.

Why anyone would be surprised or chagrined by some of the answers here is beyond reason.

Since Isreal says it will never leave, and since the surrounding Arab nations say they will never quit until they regain their land, the fighting will continue until you either cause another world war, or the alternative..... which is where what I said comes in. We fucking nuke the whole region and end it. period.

Now which would you prefer? Do something positive to end this 50 year mess? Or glow in the fucking dark? Your call. Either way we're sick of it.
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Come on [Labret], be a stand up kind of guy and give Detroit back. Make mic's day.
On this day of our Lord, July 19th 2002, I declare Detroit the property of the Native Americans.

Ok Mic, now its your turn.
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"Does Israel deserve a beating?"

Only ones who are gonna take a beating are those damn terrorists! and you if you dont shut up!

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On this day of our Lord, July 19th 2002, I declare Detroit the property of the Native Americans.

Ok Mic, now its your turn.
[Labret] did his part, so like the man said, its your turn.
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Just look what the Jews did to the Canaanites

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"So Joshua smote all the country of the hills, and of the south, and of the vale, and of the springs, and all their kings: he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded. And Joshua smote them from Kadesh-barnea even unto Gaza, and all the country of Goshen, even unto Gibeon."


They left none remaining.

These days we call that "genocide". The Jews call it Judaism.
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On this day of our Lord, July 19th 2002, I declare Detroit the property of the Native Americans.

Ok Mic, now its your turn.
I declare all Great Lake area property of Native Americans. Are you happy now? Israel can wait for another 200 years before declare something like this.
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Since Isreal says it will never leave, and since the surrounding Arab nations say they will never quit until they regain their land, the fighting will continue until you either cause another world war, or the alternative..... which is where what I said comes in. We fucking nuke the whole region and end it. period.
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They left none remaining.

These days we call that "genocide". The Jews call it Judaism. [/B]
[Labret] you better find a cellar, I fear that you may be "smote".
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They left none remaining.

These days we call that "genocide". The Jews call it Judaism. [/B]
What European people did in America ? this is real genocide. 150 mil of natives were killed
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What European people did in America ? this is real genocide. 150 mil of natives were killed
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The systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group


I dont know about you, but we still have a bunch of Natives... and its not legal to hunt them anymore.

If it was a "genocide" there would be NONE left.

Like the Canaanites.

Try again.
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Since Isreal says it will never leave, and since the surrounding Arab nations say they will never quit until they regain their land, the fighting will continue until you either cause another world war, or the alternative..... which is where what I said comes in. We fucking nuke the whole region and end it. period.

This will never happen. Remember Jewish lobby in US and Israel nukes too.
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gen·o·cide Pronunciation Key (jn-sd)
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The systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group


I dont know about you, but we still have a bunch of Natives... and its not legal to hunt them anymore.

If it was a "genocide" there would be NONE left.

Like the Canaanites.

Try again.
They kill most of them. Couple of mil. was put in reservation to show future US citizens how humanitarian they were
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What European people did in America ? this is real genocide. 150 mil of natives were killed
All throughout history lots of people have been killed by other people...so what.

Personally, i have yet to kill or even persecute a Native N. American.

if you want to do something useful to help the Natives go down to Queen and Spadina and feed the ones that live on the subway grate outside Osgoode Hall.

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They kill most of them. Couple of mil. was put in reservation to show future US citizens how humanitarian they were
http://canadiangenocide.nativeweb.org/

The Canadian genocide against their native peoples.
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Most indigenous populations in the US that were wiped out were wiped out by diseases like smallpox. There were not enough settlers to kill off the native population even if they wanted to.



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I dont know about you, but we still have a bunch of Natives... and its not legal to hunt them anymore.

If it was a "genocide" there would be NONE left.

Like the Canaanites.

Try again.
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http://canadiangenocide.nativeweb.org/

The Canadian genocide against their native peoples.
This is true - all bastards, but at list Canadians do not oppress Black people as US did
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Most indigenous populations in the US that were wiped out were wiped out by diseases like smallpox. There were not enough settlers to kill off the native population even if they wanted to.



Not true ? want to read something about this - read "Timequake" by Kurt Vonnegut
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This is true - all bastards, but at list Canadians do not oppress Black people as US did
Key word being "did".

Are you so sure? I am pretty sure Canadians had slaves.

http://www.museum.guelph.on.ca/bhslavery.htm

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The Act of the Legislative Assembly that was passed that year was a compromise. It confirmed the ownership of slaves already in Upper Canada, but did allow children of slaves born after the Act to be automatically freed when they reached 25 years of age


Imagine that.

All Canada did was free them before the South did.

Now what?

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Not true ? want to read something about this - read "Timequake" by Kurt Vonnegut
Vonnegut is not exactly a well recognized historian. Great novelist but not a historian. Check out the book "Guns Germs and Steel: The Fate of Human Societies" to reference the role microbes played in the "conquest" of the Americas. Here's the Amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...648274-8295306
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Vonnegut is not exactly a well recognized historian. Great novelist but not a historian. Check out the book "Guns Germs and Steel: The Fate of Human Societies" to reference the role microbes played in the "conquest" of the Americas. Here's the Amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...648274-8295306
Thanks, I read a lot of stuff on this issue - but I am reading addict and will read this book as well
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What the fuck are you reading?

You have been wrong on the last 3 points you tried to make.

I think you need to find some different reading material. Namely history books.
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Imagine that.

All Canada did was free them before the South did.

Now what? [/B]
Somebody who step first is a hero, who step second just a copycat
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Somebody who step first is a hero, who step second just a copycat
That wasnt your premise ding dong.

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but at list (sic) Canadians do not oppress Black people as US did


So which is it?

Are you heroes for being so progressive as to free your slaves when they reached the age of 25 IF they were born in Canada?

Wow, I bet black people in Canada think that was a sweet deal. Truly, Canadians are heroes of the Black peoples of the world.

HAIL CANADA. Or should I say "HEIL CANADA"?

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What the fuck are you reading?

You have been wrong on the last 3 points you tried to make.

I think you need to find some different reading material. Namely history books.
No I do not - you get me all wrong I am not a Canadian fun either
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As an Israeli citizen, I was disgusted by the question and some of the answers.
2 days ago 3 people were murdered in Tel Aviv after 2 suicide bombers detonated themselves over them only 8 miles from where I live.
3 days ago 9 Israelis were murdered after Palestinian terrorists opened fire at civilians.

After 9/11, when 3000 innocent American citizens were massacred by the world's biggest terrorist, I thought that at least Americans will see that terrorism must be fought 24/7/365 with "no buts".
Murderers (and their senders) of innocent people who detonate themselves over moms, dads & children with the intentional aim of murdering them do not deserve to live.

Posting a survey like the one you posted here is a disgrace.
lol go blow up yourself LOL
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On September 11 2001 I went with a colleague on mine to a business meeting.
Back then, I was working as a sales manager of a mainstream internet company.
After the meeting ended (it was something like 15:00 pm if I remember right) we got into my car and decided to grab launch somewhere since we didn't eat yet.
We headed to a Chinese restaurant.

On the way, I turned the radio on in the car and I heard someone describing how 2 airplanes were smashed into the Twin Towers.
At first, I thought I didn't understand it right.
I was sure it was some kind of a sketch or a discussion about a science fiction book.
After a minute I understood something horrible has happened.
We reached the restaurant which had a TV set turned on, showing pictures from the scene.

I was glued to screen, shocked, amazed and practically paralyzed.
Since I couldn't comtinue with my work, I took the rest of the off and drove straight to my home where I saw the live coverage of CNN.
Those images of mass murder chilled me.
As a person who lives in a country that suffers from terrorism for many years, I felt that the terrorists hurt me, my family and my people.

What is terrorism ?
Terrorism in the deliberate killing of civilians on the behalf of a political motive.
When you sourendor to terrism once, terrorism will hurt you forever since it will know that it can extort you.
Following the reason of some of the members here, president Bush should have launched a state department delegation to Osama Bin Laden, headed by Colin Powell after Sept. 11th.
I wonder why this delegation was never dispatched.
Don't you want peace ?
Don't you want to spare your citizens lives ?
Don't you think that peace is better than war ?
Don't you think that responding to the attack would only escalate the situation ?
Don't you know that the world is sick of wars ?

Well, I'm being sarcastic of course.
No, no delegation should have been dispatched.
In fact, the only delegation that should have been dispatched was an air force delegation, headed by a B-2 squadron.
That's what you did and I support you 100%.
At the bottom line, you can't negotiate with people who come to your place to blow themselves on your citizens.

I was sorry to read some of the members views but I'm glad that they're only a vocal minority.
I know that most Americans have conscience, moral and the ability do distinct right from wrong.
Whenever Americans will be hurt by terrorists, I will condemn it, stand by the US and support its action against terrorism.
I will never support murderers and their supporters.
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Old 07-19-2002, 11:31 AM   #46
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Rat, you're again stepping over the dipshit line here. The link you gave for "Canadian slave ownership" says the following.....

"<i>John Graves Simcoe, Upper Canada's (as Ontario was then known) first Lieutenant-Governor, tried to end slavery in the colony in 1773</i>"

So what? So a small region of Canada once owned some slaves. Big deal. And look at the date. We outlawed slavery a good 100 YEARS before the 'Mericuns did, and they (YOU) had to fight a major war to decide the issue.

Find another angle to slam Canada, this one holds no intelligence.
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Old 07-19-2002, 11:33 AM   #47
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So what? So a small region of Canada once owned some slaves.
And slavery was limited to a small part of the USA as well.

Whats your point?
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Old 07-19-2002, 11:33 AM   #48
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Originally posted by falafel
On September 11 2001 I went with a colleague on mine to a business meeting.
Back then, I was working as a sales manager of a mainstream internet company.
After the meeting ended (it was something like 15:00 pm if I remember right) we got into my car and decided to grab launch somewhere since we didn't eat yet.
We headed to a Chinese restaurant.

On the way, I turned the radio on in the car and I heard someone describing how 2 airplanes were smashed into the Twin Towers.
At first, I thought I didn't understand it right.
I was sure it was some kind of a sketch or a discussion about a science fiction book.
After a minute I understood something horrible has happened.
We reached the restaurant which had a TV set turned on, showing pictures from the scene.

I was glued to screen, shocked, amazed and practically paralyzed.
Since I couldn't comtinue with my work, I took the rest of the off and drove straight to my home where I saw the live coverage of CNN.
Those images of mass murder chilled me.
As a person who lives in a country that suffers from terrorism for many years, I felt that the terrorists hurt me, my family and my people.

What is terrorism ?
Terrorism in the deliberate killing of civilians on the behalf of a political motive.
When you sourendor to terrism once, terrorism will hurt you forever since it will know that it can extort you.
Following the reason of some of the members here, president Bush should have launched a state department delegation to Osama Bin Laden, headed by Colin Powell after Sept. 11th.
I wonder why this delegation was never dispatched.
Don't you want peace ?
Don't you want to spare your citizens lives ?
Don't you think that peace is better than war ?
Don't you think that responding to the attack would only escalate the situation ?
Don't you know that the world is sick of wars ?

Well, I'm being sarcastic of course.
No, no delegation should have been dispatched.
In fact, the only delegation that should have been dispatched was an air force delegation, headed by a B-2 squadron.
That's what you did and I support you 100%.
At the bottom line, you can't negotiate with people who come to your place to blow themselves on your citizens.

I was sorry to read some of the members views but I'm glad that they're only a vocal minority.
I know that most Americans have conscience, moral and the ability do distinct right from wrong.
Whenever Americans will be hurt by terrorists, I will condemn it, stand by the US and support its action against terrorism.
I will never support murderers and their supporters.

who gives a fuck?

Israel isn't even a proper country. It's a bit of land, that belongs to someone else, being squatted on by a bunch of idiots armed to the teeth.
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Old 07-19-2002, 11:34 AM   #49
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This is true - all bastards, but at list Canadians do not oppress Black people as US did
The man speaks truth.
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Old 07-19-2002, 11:35 AM   #50
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One question. Are you willing giving palestinans their own country + taking away all settlements?
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