Tempest

Coincidence? You sure you want to trust your business with DirecNic?

I have galleries on there.. So if it is in fact due to them, now they're effecting my business with their actions.

scottybuzz

I never visted those sites, but what type of content is on there? same as slicks?

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scottybuzz

infact they all look like hosting domains, whats going on there?

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spacedog

They're all free hosts.

Matt 26z

All owned by the same company. The largest, most reputable freehost. TheHun even allows submits using them.

I would certainly hope DirectNic didn't pull the plug on them. It would be a very dangerous thing if a registrar policed user controlled services.

BoyAlley

Spudstr

looks to be on lock to me.

Domain Name: KINGHOST.COM
Registrar: INTERCOSMOS MEDIA GROUP, INC. D/B/A DIRECTNIC.COM
Whois Server: whois.directnic.com
Referral URL: http://www.directnic.com
Name Server: NS1.KINGHOST.COM
Name Server: NS0.KINGHOST.COM
RRP Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Updated Date: 20-Oct-2006
Creation Date: 21-Aug-2001
Expiration Date: 21-Aug-2008

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stickyfingerz

this is about to get nasty folks.....

Spudstr

Yeah, all of kinghosts domains are on lock.

Thats pretty fucked up.

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stickyfingerz

Status: clientTransferProhibited

Status: clientTransferProhibited

Status: clientTransferProhibited

Status: clientTransferProhibited

digifan

Even the Hun is accepting galleries on kinghost... what's this world is coming to? ;(

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JD

what the fuck...

digifan

Or should I say "used to"?

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stickyfingerz

wow people should be all over this thread....

SmokeyTheBear

wtf kinghost is a pretty damn big adult host , that is going to put a huge crimp in some traffic..

But hey all it takes is anyone to make any allegation and it seems directnic will pull the plug until you prove yourself innocent. This is not looking good at all. I have never seen any correlation between cp and the sites mentioned above.

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crockett

Jesus if this is true Directnic just signed it's death sentence in Adult. I don't see how even the DN ass kissers could still stand behind them if DN shut down more adult sites.

Should be interesting if this turns out to be true.. are you sure the status stuff doesn't just mean the domain is locked?

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Spudstr

Well we have no idea exactly how much pressure DN is getting from the FBI to "look into this" because this is DN's responsibility for selling/controlling the domain.

Maybe DN is getting shit and is covering their ass.

Put yourself in DNs shoes....

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mrgica

judgment day is coming kids

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devilspost

Serge say they will only loose a few k so who cares.

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spasmo

Regardless of why they're down, this explains why some of my biggest trades ate shit today. Ugh.

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SmokeyTheBear

i think this is just a glitch unrelated that would be foolish for them..

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JD

ive got a feeling this is going to snowball into some serious shit....

SmokeyTheBear

Directnic isnt exactly the biggest fish around and certainly not a very big fish when it comes to shady shit.. I cant see what kind of pressure they could be giving them.. Trying to charge directnic criminally with in some way being complicit in cp would be pretty groundbreaking news in the industry and i would expect they would go for someone larger.. If we allow the DOJ to simply "tell" us whats bad and what isnt , it wont be long before the man behind the curtain tells us what is ok to read see and think..

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spasmo

They are back up! Woo hoo! (checked kinghost and 3wisp)

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datatank

Chill out people
http://who.godaddy.com/WhoIs.aspx?do...rog_id=godaddy


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Registry Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Status: clientDeleteProhibited

spasmo

Yeah. Seems to have been a coincidence. Glad everybody didn't jump their shit before knowing anything.

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Brujah

LOL people.. wow..

REGISTRAR-LOCK is normal.

You would be looking for active domains turning to REGISTRAR-HOLD.

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directfiesta

no drama

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Tempest

Back up.. hopefully it had nothing to do with DirectNic.. on the other hand I can see this exact type of thing happening.

BigDeanEvans

well my 500+ domains are gone after this

[Dan]

Sorry guys, it's not Directnic related.. Cogent had a fiber cut at 8:05am which isolated the Montreal network from the rest of the Net, it lasted ~15 hours!! What's unfortunate is we're in the process of turning up BGP sessions with our providers and a couple of days later this outage wouldn't have affected us.

However I must point out the recent Directnic drama had us wondering, as you can imagine it happens from time to time in the freehosting business that we receive cp complaints (it's very rare and we review uploads by our members but we can always miss some stuff). I'm not sure how they would react if they were cc'ed one of the complaints.

BTW thanks for your worries

spasmo

There is nothing to indicate that this incident had anything to do with DirectNIC.

Edit: What Dan said above.

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madawgz

everything seems to be working now, thats good

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pornonada

I'am not a free host expert, but i could imagine that exactly NOBODY or in digits, 0%, of the webmasters using your free service and hosting his galleries or whatever with you have the 2257 docs and papers for the content he has on his galleries/your host. This said, i doubt you EVER will be able to be confirm with the DirectNic TOS, means again that some simple complaints from one of your competitors, from an asshole, from a self declared internet censorist or someone just boring and writing complains all the day can/should/could bring down your whole internet business. Having in mind that you/your company is the Registrant i guess the DirectNic legal department will contact you for age verifications and similars.
Having in mind that on Slick's sites are about 200 galleries per site i guess there are 10.000's if not 100.000's or even more galleries and sites on your host(s).

Someone can only guess and imagine what would and could happen. But i wonder if people really feel comfortable asking themself such question: " I'am not sure what would be happe?". I guess free hosting is a lucrative business, i also guess you made major investements and whatever not and i guess that a termination of your account/domains for a week or so could/would bring down your whole business.

I don't understand why someone is risking that much only due a domain registration which is in the US$ 10 range. Furthermore there is NOT 1 point in their TOS, NOT 1 argument that they are better as any other registar, even reverse. If you compare their TOS with other Registrars TOS's you will see that you are nothing more than someone having rights to pay at time.
Something to think about in my opinion and take the time to read different TOS's.

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Angelslinks

Well,
Once you rape someone you will always be "guilty" for all rapes in the area for a loooooong time.

spasmo

Thanks for quoting me out of context.

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[Dan]

Pornonada, I agree with you on some points. However to be fair I must point out that in the past, Directnic has been cc'ed some complaints for our freehosts (however they were copyright infringments if memory serves me right), and we didn't hear from their legal dept. Their policy might have changed recently however... There is also the risk of changing to another registrar that will be even quicker to shutdown sites, there's a top registrar that has been known to be quick on the trigger. Finally we've been with Directnic since they were reselling for OpenSRS and we never had any problems, it's sometimes not easy to break a 5-6 years, trouble free, business relation.

You're right that if we were down for a week, it would be a disaster for our business. Freehosts are already hanging by a string (honest ones that is); you might think there is a lot of money in it, and it was true at some point in the past (maybe in 2001-2002), but it's very hard to turn a profit these days unless you know exactly what you're doing and you're big enough to buy sizable commits. We were down for a week a while back, it was during the whole hosting.fm/cologroup/pimpshost debacle and you can't imagine how much it hurt.. Needless to say it's not an experience we'd like to reproduce..

LadyMischief

If that's the case you'd think the feds would follow up with the domain registrants in question, no?

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RawAlex

Directnic is also hiding Bin Ladin and has the real recipe for Coke at their office... and they know the Caramilk secret too.

Peaches

What's amazing about this is LadyMischief AFTER reading this thread posted this on another board:

Originally Posted by LadyMischief View Post
Guess it doesn't matter what the legal rights are or what anyone things. Looks like DirectNIC just axed a freehost and all their domains are in registrar-lock as well.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=687480

Should be interesting to see who's next.

Yes, AFTER she read this thread AND after she posted after Dan explained that not only wasn't this DirectNic's problem, he trusts DirectNic!

I swear, I wonder about some people motives.

LadyMischief

Motives? I could care less. My point was it doesn't matter who was ACTUALLY right or wrong, they are doing what they are doing anyways. :P

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Drake

Just as an aside, why is it that all registrars are US based? Or are there non-US domain registrars?

Dvae

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They're not Mike - tho plenty spamming of the ICANN registry list in North America generally - ie the same people stuffing up multiple corp fronts and qualifying as another registrar.

There are registrars all over the place, Korea, Austria, India, Span, Germany, UK, Netherlands, China, France ad nausea....

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Peaches

THEY AREN'T DOING ANYTHING HERE! Geeeze. For the reading impaired:

Sorry guys, it's not Directnic related.. Cogent had a fiber cut at 8:05am which isolated the Montreal network from the rest of the Net, it lasted ~15 hours!! What's unfortunate is we're in the process of turning up BGP sessions with our providers and a couple of days later this outage wouldn't have affected us.

However I must point out the recent Directnic drama had us wondering, as you can imagine it happens from time to time in the freehosting business that we receive cp complaints (it's very rare and we review uploads by our members but we can always miss some stuff). I'm not sure how they would react if they were cc'ed one of the complaints.

BTW thanks for your worries

Then again:

Pornonada, I agree with you on some points. However to be fair I must point out that in the past, Directnic has been cc'ed some complaints for our freehosts (however they were copyright infringments if memory serves me right), and we didn't hear from their legal dept. Their policy might have changed recently however... There is also the risk of changing to another registrar that will be even quicker to shutdown sites, there's a top registrar that has been known to be quick on the trigger. Finally we've been with Directnic since they were reselling for OpenSRS and we never had any problems, it's sometimes not easy to break a 5-6 years, trouble free, business relation.

You're right that if we were down for a week, it would be a disaster for our business. Freehosts are already hanging by a string (honest ones that is); you might think there is a lot of money in it, and it was true at some point in the past (maybe in 2001-2002), but it's very hard to turn a profit these days unless you know exactly what you're doing and you're big enough to buy sizable commits. We were down for a week a while back, it was during the whole hosting.fm/cologroup/pimpshost debacle and you can't imagine how much it hurt.. Needless to say it's not an experience we'd like to reproduce..

And then you go to another board 12 hours after Dan said it had NOTHING to do with DirectNic and post that DirectNic took them down??!! WTF??!