RawAlex

Peaches, you have to remember that LadyMischief just happens to be sitting in the same room as another poster from Oakville that was pissing all over Directnic in the other threads.

I guess it runs in the family or something.

LadyMischief

Ya I realize I was incorrect. My apologies.

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LadyMischief

Pissing all over directnic? Why not read what he wrote he didn't give any opinions, mostly he just asked questions, and made wisecracks heh. I was incorrect and I apologized. Here AND there.

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Peaches

One of the owners of DirectNic is also a former owner of one of the larges free hosting sites in its time. Again, IME and IMO, DirectNic is the most "adult friendly" registrars out there BECAUSE they know the implications on businesses of jumping too quickly.

pornonada

Bottie,

may i ask if there are any FACTS that DirectNic is the MOST ADULT FRIENDLY Registrar or is it just your opinion as a Blonde Board Bot?

for me it seems now that former Adult People are even the opposite. Maybe something to compare with Smokers converted to NON-Smokers, there is nothing whorse, really, lol.

What, besides the DirectNIC TOS with which they can fuck over everybody who registered a domain with them, makes them a better and more secure Registrar for adult domains than Dotster, Enom, Monicker, Gandi for example????

And are all your Domains with DirectNic?

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Peaches

As I said, IME and IMO. For you, the obviously brilliant brunette, that means "In My Experience" and "In My Opinion".

Yes, all my domains are with DirectNic and have been for years. I started back at NetSol when they were $100, moved to DNS (who stole 3 of my domains) and then moved to DirectNic. I've never had a single issue and any problems *I'VE* caused (like forgetting to move a block on a domain I'd sold) were quickly fixed by them.

I've had a few attempts at trying to hijack some of my domains which have been handled immediately.

Again, since they started in the adult biz, IME AND IMO, they are the most adult friendly. Seems the guy who owns the freehost who someone else felt needed a thread started about them, feels happy with the service he's received through the years too.

Happy?

(I'm betting not )

pornonada

Fine than, i hope you have all your 2257 Docs for your 10.000's of Free Sites with them. Could turn out as a hard task someday to have to deal with collecting all the Docs for each Site. On the other hand, they owe you a lot for the last days botting, lol.

And by the way, for me the other guy with the freehosts (dan) sounded at least a bit concerned to me, but none of my work. Just wanted to say that it wasn't a "Hurray" i was reading in his posts, like you trying to suggest.

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Toker

I put TGP galleries on Kinghost 5 years ago that I still get signups from..
The Fucking they gave everyone was hidden, getting a free host
acct with KingHost wound up half the time saying they were adding
servers in the future but didn't have one now and recommended RoyalFreeHost I think it was and it was never mentioned they also owned it!
2 years later when there were thousands of people with Royal Accts and Galleries in TGP Archives they shut down and got rich off redirect 404
traffic..
Sometimes I think half the people in this Bizz run around with their dick out waiting for someone to drop their pants!!

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RawAlex

pornonada, you are particularly funny. You are just this side of a fake nick (you are your powerful 206 posts).

If you knew the history of the people involved in Directnic, if you understood where many of them came from (in this business and others), you wouldn't even think two seconds about it.

Attempting to lump people who add mainstream businesses to their empire into the same pile as born again christians is just laughable.

I think you have more of an interest in this because of some of the wonderful sites on your list of 62 TGPs (most of which aren't even running).

Webby

Awesome how a non-event can have folks still posting....

DirectNic and most registrars are useless as hell and only of value as to how little their domains cost - after that, it's only a matter of time before they screw something up. If it was not for DirectNic becoming a charity, DirectNic Center for Exploited Children, - their system or something else would screw up.

There is nothing "friendly" about any registrar - all they care about are another 100K of recurring billing domain names on their system.

Give this crap a break for Gawd's sake, or are we going to have the XBiz Registrar of the Year next?

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Toker

That doesn't mean anything, all my domains are on Lock also and yours
should be also.. That just stops anyone from transfering them to another Registra untill you go to your Acct manager and click the UNlock.
The only time a Domain is in a lock where it can't be transfered is for 60 days after it was bought or for 60 days after something in the Name, addy, phone # ect of the registered owner or contact is changed.
GFY is probably locked also even tho it doesn't show it, I just looked it
up and noticed GFY is on LSD!
You'll at GFY gonna have a Xmas party? I live on Division east of State St.
and could walk over there in about 5 minutes...

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RawAlex

yup, there is a good idea... as soon as it is proven and shown that all the usual suspects were pissing all over directnic again for no reason, let's "give this crap a break".

I wish you had followed your own advice a few days ago... but then again, a bunch of people didn't have egg on their face for jumping to conclusions, either.

Toker

That's NOT true, a Registra isn't responsible to check all the Domains
they've sold everyday.
The site owner and the hosting co who's responsible for people
being able to view the site are..
I can understand if the site got busted by the Feds which would
lean toward some proof of a criminal offence the domain could be lost
or pulled by ICANN who's the final authority for the domain but not NOT
by a Registra unless it was a violation of their TOS which said nothing
about this the other day.
A Domain like a Toll Free phone # are NOT owned by anyone but the
Government for Toll Free #s and ICANN for domains.
You have a Toll Free # with Sprint and drop it and it goes back into a pool where any phone comp can get it, a domain dropped goes back to ICANN
where ANY Registra can get it for you.. (Altho they are starting to hold them and resell them because an dropped domain usually has some traffic.)
Like GoDaddy has TDnam where they sell or auction dropped domains.

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Toker

If you are going to transfer them I can get ya an Exec acct at GoDaddy or
a GoldVIP account at Netsol and you can transfer them cheaper and get
your own acct rep..
Just PM me...

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Toker

They're all over the world, if you want to specialize in Trojans, Malware,
spyware or toolbars I recommend ESTdomains in Russia where EVERYthing reg'd there is BAD!

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Peaches

LOL!! Dude, as soon as 2257 was being talked about I took every single picture off my sites. Nothing but text now. The funny thing is that my income off those sites doubled!

BTW, I don't have 10's of thousands of domains. http://www.yourdomainhere/sex and sticking an .index page in there is a great way to get an index page into an SE w/o having a separate domain ;)

They owe me nothing. I talk a lot. When I believe in something or someone I talk about them. Look around and you'll see me post a lot about pugs. I like pugs. I like DirectNic.

cayne

Damn, it took long until somebody posted this... lol

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KrisKross

Does no one here know what registrar-lock is? All my domains are on registrar-lock AT MY CHOICE.

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u-Bob

funny (and sad) how half the people on a webmaster board have no idea what registrar-lock is...

the alchemist

Very much so... then again, lol @ registering domains with DirectNic...

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RawAlex

then again... lol @ mob mentality.

cue the sheep.

the alchemist

Uh? What are you talking about now?

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Tempest

Usually you're a pretty smart guy and post something worth reading. But I've been watching you post on this topic and you really look like a moron.

There is no loyalty in business.. that's the capitalist way.. It does not matter one little bit that DirectNic has been "adult friendly" in the past. If it's in their best business interest going forward, they will fuck over every adult domain at the drop of a hat. Like if they wanted to go public. Or maybe they want to suport a .xxx tld. Really. What a perfect way to get a shit load of adult domains out of your system. And if it's just a small percentage, what do they care.

As I said elsewhere, in this case it was an allegation of CP. Next time it could be something else completely. For anyone with a brain that's capable of looking at the bigger picture, it's their policy and handling of this matter that's the issue, not the circumstance. I just can't believe you're this naive but carry on.

Angelslinks

I like Pornonada so fuck off

RawAlex

Tempest, with all due respect, neither you nor I know enough details about this situation to make an intelligent business decision one way or the other. We don't know Directnic's motivations, and we certainly have no clue what Slick's real response was (was it "I'll do anything you want, I am innocent, so no problem, let me contact the sponsors" or "fuck you, you aren't the internet police"?).

With much respect for everyone involved in the spew that has come with this, all I can say is that at this moment, anyone switching registrars becuase of the (sorry, I have to) tempest in a teapot that has been created around this isn't really doing themselves any favors. Most people don't realize that they are moving to registrars with similar or worse terms... breaking a business relationship they may have had for years with Directnic on that basis is, IMHO, a little short sighted.

It is mob mentality...

Remember, the policy isn't different at any other registrar, they pretty much all routinely lock down and shut off domains for various reasons... the only difference is nobody comes to whine about it on GFY.

That is the bigger picture.

pornonada

my nick isn't a fake, i have no use for a fake nick and i'am thankfull i have only 206 posts here. I post generally on another board "ask....." . I wouldn't be really proud with everything over 1000k posts on gfy. While many people hide for several reasons behind a fake nick i don't do so and never have done

Honestly, i don't care about histories, other peoples, legends and myths. All i care is the today and the future. Looking to much into the past doesn't bring me anyhting because i'am only interested in what will happen in future.
I doesn't bring me anything if someone was a great guy the past 25 years and now he got sensile or whatever (just a general comment)

Maybe it's laughable, but i when i think something is wrong that i'am free to say my opinion as well as you can (and what you do anyway. My opinion is that the DirectNic Registar is the one with the whorst TOS from a DomainHolders point of view. Anything wrong with having such opinion? I'am wrong with this issue about the TOS?

Yes, it's a new project and even most sites aren't up yet. And you are totally wrong. I have NO, but absolutly NO personal interest in it. Neither i ever had a domain with DirectNic, neither i'am in the US are a US Citizien, neither i know ANY of the people involved in this case. It is just something i thought and still think was not handled correct. If you have folllowed my posts in the whole than you would have seen that i didn't make a single comment about thumbs, links or whatever, but only due the Models ID's requestments and the resolving problems out of this, so you can spare any personal attack. If you are not ok with my opinion, that's ok for me, i educated very democratic ;-)

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Tempest

Registrar locked the domains... registrar shut them off thus effecting the immediate, short and possibly long term revenue... registrar then turned some back on again...

Beyond any correspondence that's occured that we're not privy to, what more do we really need to know? I'm not willing to put my business at risk with a registrar that would do that. Personally I don't think any registrar should be messing with someones domains. If it's a content issue, it should be up to the host and authorities, not the registrar.

But if I thought a registrar should be able to do that, then I would at least want one that will respect my business and won't mess with it in ANY way while we worked to resolve the issue. DirectNic did not do that and I don't see any way they could justify those actions. That's why I would never use them, not would I recomend them and I'll actually be warning people away from them.

As for DirectNics "motivation".. You're right, we don't know. Which is why it's even more concerning, especially after MikeAI's post.

At the end of the day, nothing you say will change that for most people so you're just wasting your time, just as anyone trying to get you to see their way is wasting their time. It all comes down to how you run your business and what risks you're willing to take.

I've avoided most of this whole topic as you can never change certain peoples opinions and it's just one of those "tempests" that occurs over here. But it's certainly been great for a lot of your post counts.

RawAlex

pornonada, there is no personal attack here. I just think that, like some of the other posters in various threads on the subject, people have been massively fast to jump to a conclusion and paint the directnic people with a very broad brush.

Most of the assumptions about them (including your own) don't match up with the reality of the situation and of the history of the whole deal. Because you have no interest in history, you have no clue, and as a result, your entire opinion is based on a single snapshot of a situation, one where neither you nor I have enough information to know what really happened. Talk about guilty until proven innocent!

You can have an opinion about the Directnic TOS all you like, but I would suggest that you read your own registrars TOS really closely too, because you will find very similar terms almost without exception (and your host has them too, and your ISP, and your billing company if you are running membership sites).

At the end of the day, each person will choose to do business their own way. I just think it very unfortunate that misinformation seems to be the flavor of the week.

RawAlex

INCORRECT. This is the exact type of misinformation that has been piled on this. Yes, Directnic locked access to the domains and blocked transfers, but no, Directnic didn't just turn the domains off. They contacted Slick... and then some stuff happened that we don't know, and then then the next day (or the day after that) the domains were disabled.

As I said, you and I don't know what happened in the interim, but it is clear that something happened to change it from "provide information" to "your domains are turned off".

Something happened in there... and it is VERY presumptious to figure that Directnic was the only one in the wrong during that time frame.

Everything else is opinion, and each and every one of us is entitled to one (or more).

pornonada

While researching the last days i really saw huge differences in the TOS of each registrar.

But dude, i agree, i shouldn't care at all about that issue too much. First of all it costs me time, second it brings me just nothing as i'am anyway not us based, and maybe 3rd, could be smarter just to watch only.

Anyway, all the same arguments 1001 times posted from everyone, nothing new, so yes, i will leave directNic, not that it matters anway, lol.

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Tempest

I didn't say they just turned off the domains. You said we weren't privy to the communications and anything else that was going on so I stripped all of that out and outlined what we can see...

The domains we're locked... (some stuff happened)... the domains were disabled... (some stuff happened).. some domains were re-enabled... (more stuff happening).

That's exactly what you've outlined as well..

Does it really matter? What possible reason would be justifiable for disabling and then later re-enabling a businesses domains?

At least you agree that DirecNic was in the wrong. And that's enough for some people to decide not to do business with them. So I really don't know why you continue to argue the point.

RawAlex

Tempest, I wouldn't agree in the slightest that Directnic was in the wrong, far from it. Neither you nor I know exactly why they did what they did, nor do you or I know exactly what transpired between the parties involved that changed the situation are things moved along.

So no, I don't agree. I don't have enough information to declare directnic guilty. I only hope that you and posters like you give Directnic the same "innocent until proven guilty" that you think Slick deserves.

Tempest

I would think some people would take that as you saying DN was in the wrong. I did.

Regardless, it doesn't matter. For many of us, the moment they decided to police the domains registered thru them and locked it, that is when they were in the wrong. For some of us, we believe that their actions are the last thing that should happen after hosting and the authorities have been exhausted.

So a discussion about what we don't know is immaterial.

RawAlex

Nope, sorry if it read like that but, no... I said "it is VERY presumptious to figure that Directnic was the only one in the wrong" - people are assuming that DN is wrong and Slick is perfect snow fucking white... and that is a very bad presumption.

Very very little was made by the howlers, screamers, and boycotters about what Slick may or may not have done to resolve this situation or to better handle it. These people all came to these threads with an agenda... even going so far as to get Mr Douglas to make an off the cuff comment without having full information, and then repeating his comments over and over again as gospel.

There was that presumption that Directnic was the only one in the wrong from the word go. I have a feeling at the end of the day, Directnic will show to be either completely correct or doing what was right for their business under the circumstances, and very few of the people raising a ruckus around here will take a minute to say "well, I guess we were wrong".

Retractions and corrections are always printed in a little box on page 67, long after the front page headlines have done the damage.