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KingHost, XFreeHosting, 3Wisp, CleanAdultHost down. DirectNic is the registrar.
Coincidence? You sure you want to trust your business with DirecNic?
I have galleries on there.. So if it is in fact due to them, now they're effecting my business with their actions. |
I never visted those sites, but what type of content is on there? same as slicks?
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infact they all look like hosting domains, whats going on there?
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I would certainly hope DirectNic didn't pull the plug on them. It would be a very dangerous thing if a registrar policed user controlled services. |
They don't appear to be on registrar lock, and all use their own private name servers, and although I don't know for sure, I'd say this is probably a connectivity issue with those at this point.
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Domain Name: KINGHOST.COM Registrar: INTERCOSMOS MEDIA GROUP, INC. D/B/A DIRECTNIC.COM Whois Server: whois.directnic.com Referral URL: http://www.directnic.com Name Server: NS1.KINGHOST.COM Name Server: NS0.KINGHOST.COM RRP Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK Status: clientUpdateProhibited Status: clientTransferProhibited Status: clientDeleteProhibited Updated Date: 20-Oct-2006 Creation Date: 21-Aug-2001 Expiration Date: 21-Aug-2008 |
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Yeah, all of kinghosts domains are on lock.
Thats pretty fucked up. |
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited Status: clientTransferProhibited Status: clientTransferProhibited |
Even the Hun is accepting galleries on kinghost... what's this world is coming to? ;(
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what the fuck...
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Or should I say "used to"?
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wow people should be all over this thread....
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wtf kinghost is a pretty damn big adult host , that is going to put a huge crimp in some traffic..
But hey all it takes is anyone to make any allegation and it seems directnic will pull the plug until you prove yourself innocent. :( This is not looking good at all. I have never seen any correlation between cp and the sites mentioned above. |
Jesus if this is true Directnic just signed it's death sentence in Adult. I don't see how even the DN ass kissers could still stand behind them if DN shut down more adult sites.
Should be interesting if this turns out to be true.. are you sure the status stuff doesn't just mean the domain is locked? |
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Maybe DN is getting shit and is covering their ass. Put yourself in DNs shoes.... |
judgment day is coming kids
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Regardless of why they're down, this explains why some of my biggest trades ate shit today. Ugh.
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Here's what one industry attorney has to say about a registrar's legal liability for content appearing on domains: Quote:
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i think this is just a glitch unrelated that would be foolish for them..
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Yes, let's not jump to TOO many conclusions until we're 100% certain that DirectNic pulled them down for "TOS Violations". Anybody know anyone from KingHost they can contact to end the speculation? |
ive got a feeling this is going to snowball into some serious shit....
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Directnic isnt exactly the biggest fish around and certainly not a very big fish when it comes to shady shit.. I cant see what kind of pressure they could be giving them.. Trying to charge directnic criminally with in some way being complicit in cp would be pretty groundbreaking news in the industry and i would expect they would go for someone larger.. If we allow the DOJ to simply "tell" us whats bad and what isnt , it wont be long before the man behind the curtain tells us what is ok to read see and think.. |
Hrm. I'm still showing:
Name Server: NS0.KINGHOST.COM Name Server: NS1.KINGHOST.COM Don't think we'd be seeing that if DirectNic axed them..... |
They are back up! Woo hoo! (checked kinghost and 3wisp)
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Chill out people
http://who.godaddy.com/WhoIs.aspx?do...rog_id=godaddy NS4.YAHOO.COM NS5.YAHOO.COM NS1.YAHOO.COM NS2.YAHOO.COM NS3.YAHOO.COM MarkMonitor.com - The Leader in Corporate Domain Management ---------------------------------------------------------- For Global Domain Consolidation, Research & Intelligence, and Enterprise DNS, go to: www.markmonitor.com ---------------------------------------------------------- Registry Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK Registry Status: clientUpdateProhibited Registry Status: clientTransferProhibited Registry Status: clientDeleteProhibited |
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LOL people.. wow..
REGISTRAR-LOCK is normal. You would be looking for active domains turning to REGISTRAR-HOLD. |
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Yeah, everything's looking normal. Only thing that got me confused for a minute is the difference in status between several whois databases. They must have been actively making changes. |
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Back up.. hopefully it had nothing to do with DirectNic.. on the other hand I can see this exact type of thing happening.
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Sorry guys, it's not Directnic related.. Cogent had a fiber cut at 8:05am which isolated the Montreal network from the rest of the Net, it lasted ~15 hours!! What's unfortunate is we're in the process of turning up BGP sessions with our providers and a couple of days later this outage wouldn't have affected us.
However I must point out the recent Directnic drama had us wondering, as you can imagine it happens from time to time in the freehosting business that we receive cp complaints (it's very rare and we review uploads by our members but we can always miss some stuff). I'm not sure how they would react if they were cc'ed one of the complaints. BTW thanks for your worries :) |
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Edit: What Dan said above. |
everything seems to be working now, thats good :)
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Having in mind that on Slick's sites are about 200 galleries per site i guess there are 10.000's if not 100.000's or even more galleries and sites on your host(s). Quote:
I don't understand why someone is risking that much only due a domain registration which is in the US$ 10 range. Furthermore there is NOT 1 point in their TOS, NOT 1 argument that they are better as any other registar, even reverse. If you compare their TOS with other Registrars TOS's you will see that you are nothing more than someone having rights to pay at time. Something to think about in my opinion and take the time to read different TOS's. |
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Once you rape someone you will always be "guilty" for all rapes in the area for a loooooong time. |
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Pornonada, I agree with you on some points. However to be fair I must point out that in the past, Directnic has been cc'ed some complaints for our freehosts (however they were copyright infringments if memory serves me right), and we didn't hear from their legal dept. Their policy might have changed recently however... There is also the risk of changing to another registrar that will be even quicker to shutdown sites, there's a top registrar that has been known to be quick on the trigger. Finally we've been with Directnic since they were reselling for OpenSRS and we never had any problems, it's sometimes not easy to break a 5-6 years, trouble free, business relation.
You're right that if we were down for a week, it would be a disaster for our business. Freehosts are already hanging by a string (honest ones that is); you might think there is a lot of money in it, and it was true at some point in the past (maybe in 2001-2002), but it's very hard to turn a profit these days unless you know exactly what you're doing and you're big enough to buy sizable commits. We were down for a week a while back, it was during the whole hosting.fm/cologroup/pimpshost debacle and you can't imagine how much it hurt.. Needless to say it's not an experience we'd like to reproduce.. |
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Directnic is also hiding Bin Ladin and has the real recipe for Coke at their office... and they know the Caramilk secret too.
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What's amazing about this is LadyMischief AFTER reading this thread posted this on another board:
Originally Posted by LadyMischief View Post Guess it doesn't matter what the legal rights are or what anyone things. Looks like DirectNIC just axed a freehost and all their domains are in registrar-lock as well. http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=687480 Should be interesting to see who's next. Yes, AFTER she read this thread AND after she posted after Dan explained that not only wasn't this DirectNic's problem, he trusts DirectNic! I swear, I wonder about some people motives. :( |
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Motives? I could care less. My point was it doesn't matter who was ACTUALLY right or wrong, they are doing what they are doing anyways. :P |
Just as an aside, why is it that all registrars are US based? Or are there non-US domain registrars?
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There are registrars all over the place, Korea, Austria, India, Span, Germany, UK, Netherlands, China, France ad nausea.... |
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Sorry guys, it's not Directnic related.. Cogent had a fiber cut at 8:05am which isolated the Montreal network from the rest of the Net, it lasted ~15 hours!! What's unfortunate is we're in the process of turning up BGP sessions with our providers and a couple of days later this outage wouldn't have affected us. However I must point out the recent Directnic drama had us wondering, as you can imagine it happens from time to time in the freehosting business that we receive cp complaints (it's very rare and we review uploads by our members but we can always miss some stuff). I'm not sure how they would react if they were cc'ed one of the complaints. BTW thanks for your worries Then again: Pornonada, I agree with you on some points. However to be fair I must point out that in the past, Directnic has been cc'ed some complaints for our freehosts (however they were copyright infringments if memory serves me right), and we didn't hear from their legal dept. Their policy might have changed recently however... There is also the risk of changing to another registrar that will be even quicker to shutdown sites, there's a top registrar that has been known to be quick on the trigger. Finally we've been with Directnic since they were reselling for OpenSRS and we never had any problems, it's sometimes not easy to break a 5-6 years, trouble free, business relation. You're right that if we were down for a week, it would be a disaster for our business. Freehosts are already hanging by a string (honest ones that is); you might think there is a lot of money in it, and it was true at some point in the past (maybe in 2001-2002), but it's very hard to turn a profit these days unless you know exactly what you're doing and you're big enough to buy sizable commits. We were down for a week a while back, it was during the whole hosting.fm/cologroup/pimpshost debacle and you can't imagine how much it hurt.. Needless to say it's not an experience we'd like to reproduce.. And then you go to another board 12 hours after Dan said it had NOTHING to do with DirectNic and post that DirectNic took them down??!! WTF??! :disgust |
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