GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum

GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum (https://gfy.com/index.php)
-   Fucking Around & Business Discussion (https://gfy.com/forumdisplay.php?f=26)
-   -   Well DirectNic Shut Me Down (https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=686803)

Anthony 12-14-2006 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga (Post 11528545)
Hey Serge!! :)

Im Keeping busy! I thought you were abroad again on your travels!

What happend to the horse porn link?!

DAMNIT!!! :)

jact 12-14-2006 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 11528554)
ok obviously you are the paragon, the very epitome, of logic, rationalism and intelligence.

Now will you shut the fuck up?

I peed myself a little. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

CDSmith 12-14-2006 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 11528506)
Not quite.

There was one thumb that linked to a site that the Danish authorities shut down. Slick said that was a trade, so it was not linking to his sponsor content (FHGs). However, hs 2257 statement claims that the thumbs come from the galleries he is linking to.

So, say you were a fed and just clicking around, you see the statement, you click the thmb, the Danish message saying they took down the gallery for cp comes up and voila, 1+1 makes 3, the thumb must be cp because it ame from a gallery that another legal authority has already labeled as cp..

Not quite.

They deemed the SITE in question as illegal and shut it down. They did not deem the thumb linking the site as illegal. That thumb pertains to it's corresponding gallery, and those thumb links are run by a script that skims some of the traffic and sends it out to trades. When that happens people need to realize that the thumb becomes basically a blind link.

Feds are obviously going to have to be educated about how these scripts and sites and thumbs work, and I have no doubt that it will take several court cases in order to accomplish that, sadly.

Peaches 12-14-2006 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slick (Post 11528518)
The biggest problem I'm facing is that my attorney is located in L.A. and the quickest way to go get something going is go get someone in New Orleans, so we're trying to find the right person there. One guy we talked to, has a partner that's out in London now, so he wanted to take the time to review it with him, so he said that he could do nothing until Monday, which as you know, is a few days away, I need action NOW.

We're working on it.

Googling an attorney in New Orleans would probably do you better good than waiting until Monday.

jact 12-14-2006 02:55 PM

I know why Slick did this! He wants to win the xbox for the longest thread of the week! :1orglaugh

LadyMischief 12-14-2006 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11528539)
that has nothing to do with privacy laws. thanks for playing tho

But it has everything to do with this case, considering that DirectNic is a REGISTRAR? ;)

CDSmith 12-14-2006 02:58 PM

Slickster, I bet you had no idea your little problem would blow up into the drama of the month for the entire industry, did you?

:D

NoComments 12-14-2006 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 11528515)
I think I'm banned from there now, dunno if it was done a while ago or just since this debacle began.


nobody banned you,
if you can see this:
http://winetalk.com/forum/member.php?userid=18
you are OK

Jman 12-14-2006 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slick (Post 11528299)
Dude, fuck you. I've been in this fucking business for a lot longer than you and I probably make more than you could ever imagine making doing this. Shut the fuck up.

You just made me spit my tea god damnit :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

If you only knew Slick.

Best advice I can give you is leave the keyboard cause you got bigger things to take care of then seek justice on a site called GO FUCK YOURSELF IMHO

Bake 12-14-2006 03:01 PM

The drama of the year maybe?
If this guy has a lawyer Id be getting a new one.
This is a problem that will be very interesting to see the outcome I hope all the facts come out.

Winetalk do you really need to feed your ego by playing the arrogant asshole with these kids.

nastynun 12-14-2006 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slick (Post 11528518)
The biggest problem I'm facing is that my attorney is located in L.A. and the quickest way to go get something going is go get someone in New Orleans, so we're trying to find the right person there. One guy we talked to, has a partner that's out in London now, so he wanted to take the time to review it with him, so he said that he could do nothing until Monday, which as you know, is a few days away, I need action NOW.

We're working on it.

You might check with Joe http://www.xxxlaw.net/

polish_aristocrat 12-14-2006 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches (Post 11528576)
Googling an attorney in New Orleans would probably do you better good than waiting until Monday.

I wouldn't google a dentist, much less an attorney

NoComments 12-14-2006 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga (Post 11528545)
Hey Serge!! :)

Im Keeping busy! I thought you were abroad again on your travels!

we were...but came back 4 days ago from Thailand and Cambodia

Peaches 12-14-2006 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 11528613)
I wouldn't google a dentist, much less an attorney

It's got to be better than what he's getting now. Actually a dentist might be better than the legal advice he's getting now.

dig420 12-14-2006 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winetalk (Post 11528595)
nobody banned you,
if you can see this:
http://winetalk.com/forum/member.php?userid=18
you are OK

yep I was trying to get into the wrong forum, lost my bookmarks :(

NoComments 12-14-2006 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bake (Post 11528611)

Winetalk do you really need to feed your ego by playing the arrogant asshole with these kids.


yeap...as a matter of fact I do.

Look what happened after we fed an elephant. He didn't complain, 'cuz he is a MAN and you are a bitch!
:)


http://nocomments.com/2/Thailand/Fun...%20tumor...JPG

Carrie 12-14-2006 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 11528569)
Feds are obviously going to have to be educated about how these scripts and sites and thumbs work, and I have no doubt that it will take several court cases in order to accomplish that, sadly.

Or they could take the less costly and more logical route of hiring an adult webmaster and/or a programmer to explain it to them... but that's not likely to happen.

Brujah 12-14-2006 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jact (Post 11528503)
Maybe google.com should be shut down!!! :upsidedow

Yes! Who is their registrar? :1orglaugh

Juicy D. Links 12-14-2006 03:08 PM

http://www.nymalegigolos.com/master-pics/huh.gifhttp://www.nymalegigolos.com/master-pics/huh.gifhttp://www.nymalegigolos.com/master-pics/huh.gifhttp://www.nymalegigolos.com/master-pics/huh.gifhttp://www.nymalegigolos.com/master-pics/huh.gif

sarettah 12-14-2006 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 11528569)
Feds are obviously going to have to be educated about how these scripts and sites and thumbs work, and I have no doubt that it will take several court cases in order to accomplish that, sadly.

Good luck with that especially when the 2257 statement (a legal statement) says differently.

Legal notices aren't advertisements, they have to speak truth.



.

NoComments 12-14-2006 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shakula (Post 11528536)
I must ask you. Ive read some posts about you here on GFY.
You did well during the goldage for porn. But winetalk.com,
2000-20006 and you have about 1000 posts?
Most likely are they yours....

Seems that it was easy back in the day with porn!

what can I say!?
I am a fucking failure!

Anybody has CP content for sale? Time to get back into business!

I'm calling Webfather now and offer him $100 for
http://childpornography.com

Peaches 12-14-2006 03:19 PM

Time to take up a collection for Serge. I'll start with $5.

NoComments 12-14-2006 03:28 PM

Thank you, Peaches!

Who is in charge of "Webmasters auctions" nowadays?
;)

Bake 12-14-2006 03:31 PM

How dumb can some of you be saying things like this to Winetalk
Originally Posted by Shakula
I must ask you. Ive read some posts about you here on GFY.
You did well during the goldage for porn. But winetalk.com,
2000-20006 and you have about 1000 posts?
Most likely are they yours....

Seems that it was easy back in the day with porn!

And you dont even understand it no wonder he amuses himself at your expense.

sam from montreal 12-14-2006 03:37 PM

fucking unbelievable !! :mad: :mad:

NoComments 12-14-2006 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bake (Post 11528755)

And you dont even understand it no wonder he amuses himself at your expense.


There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result.
~Winston Churchill

Carrie 12-14-2006 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darksoul (Post 11527633)
Slick, buy some other domains and switch your trades over to the new ones
so you don't lose all income till this gets sorted.

If my domains were truly down or on hold, and my lawyer was telling me to wait, this is definitely what I'd be doing.
Of course I'd be triple-checking all of those trades so another one like that Danish CP trade wouldn't be in there, and I'd be not using sponsor galleries that promoted sites where the girls look underage. If I had to, I'd get my freaking Dad to come over and give his opinion on whether the girls looked okay or not, since obviously "public perception" is a big part of the issue here.

If it's hundreds of trades and will take some time, well, what else are you going to do while waiting for your lawyer to call you back?

At this point it looks like getting another lawyer is in order as well. Jeffrey Douglas evidently has an opinion in the matter, since he's spoken up about it I'd call him first.

.:R I O:. 12-14-2006 03:57 PM

Sorry to hear that bro...:(

John69 12-14-2006 04:19 PM

now i see why direct nic closed the domain name

have a look at some of these girls, they look 13

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://...jorpervert.com

Theo 12-14-2006 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winetalk (Post 11528815)
There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result.
~Winston Churchill


Do you play Call Of Duty II lately or something? ;-)

StarkReality 12-14-2006 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shakula (Post 11528536)
Seems that it was easy back in the day with porn!

Yep, it was, because there wasn't much free porn around, you were able to pay for it with amex, the GBU told you which sponsors to stay away from and a freesite on tripod (with 15 xpics or babylon-x banners, two galleries with "public domain" content, a 3 fullpage ads cascade to click through before you saw the first pic) made you more than a 200k tgp today...and once you got your own domain and hosting, it went down in a day because the server was unable to handle the traffic.

DirtyProfits 12-14-2006 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRRED (Post 11527664)
I admire you for deciding to reevaluate. CP or even insinuated cp is very serioius biz. People talk very highly of you and respect you. But I've just lately had several tgp guys tell me straight up, that the younger looking, underdeveloped type girls that look 13 DO draw more clicks. It's disturbing. Whether it's legal or not, it might be time to figure out how far one will go for that extra couple sales or those extra coupld hundred or thousand clicks.

Not worth it, obviously, the way things turned out. Good luck though and I hope others are paying close attention.

I fully agree with you!

Pleasurepays 12-14-2006 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyMischief (Post 11528582)
But it has everything to do with this case, considering that DirectNic is a REGISTRAR? ;)

asking for personal identifiable information and disclosing it are not the same thing. not sure why DirectNIC being a registrar changes that fact.

Agent 488 12-14-2006 06:18 PM

can't believe the judas goats around here - i'm sure everyone has it noted ..

DirtyProfits 12-14-2006 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budsbabes (Post 11529724)
can't believe the judas goats around here - i'm sure everyone has it noted ..

Shut the fuck up Jesus Christ :321GFY

Everybody has a different opinion and point of view. That has nothing to do with being illoyal.

jact 12-14-2006 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John69 (Post 11529033)
now i see why direct nic closed the domain name

have a look at some of these girls, they look 13

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://...jorpervert.com

So let's make the webmaster using the FHG the target of our judgment and leave the sponsors who provide them out of it? :2 cents:

PHP-CODER-FOR-HIRE 12-14-2006 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11527413)
I just visited your sites without issue.

DNS Cache.

Agent 488 12-14-2006 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyProfits (Post 11529787)
Shut the fuck up Jesus Christ :321GFY

Everybody has a different opinion and point of view. That has nothing to do with being illoyal.

:321GFY
:321GFY :321GFY
:321GFY :321GFY :321GFY
:321GFY :321GFY
:321GFY

SomeCreep 12-14-2006 06:44 PM

Harsh. In my opinion, a registrar has no business shutting down sites. The content is with the webhost, so it should be up to the webhost to decide if the content is illegal. The registrar has the right to refuse Slick's business, but in that case they should simply state to Slick, that they no longer wish to be his registrar and that if he does not transfer his domains elsewhere in 30 days, they will change his DNS and effectively shut down his sites.

No doubt Slick would've transferred his domains to another registrar and all this drama would've been avoided.

RawAlex 12-14-2006 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 11529875)
Harsh. In my opinion, a registrar has no business shutting down sites. The content is with the webhost, so it should be up to the webhost to decide if the content is illegal. The registrar has the right to refuse Slick's business, but in that case they should simply state to Slick, that they no longer wish to be his registrar and that if he does not transfer his domains elsewhere in 30 days, they will change his DNS and effectively shut down his sites.

No doubt Slick would've transferred his domains to another registrar and all this drama would've been avoided.


Would you like the host to do the same thing? "we have a complaint here that your sites contain illegal images. So rather than making you fix it or shut down, can we help you move to another host that has no clue so you can keep going?"

Perhaps the processors... can you just picture CCBilll "Well, we can't process for your stuff because it appears some of the models are under 18 and you don't want to produce the documents... but hey, we will help you transfer over to paycom, no problems!"

Yup. let's all just pass the buck.

PMdave 12-14-2006 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jact (Post 11529797)
So let's make the webmaster using the FHG the target of our judgment and leave the sponsors who provide them out of it? :2 cents:

Hmmmm??? didn't see any sponsors whining that directnic canned their domain. Their turn will come. As an afilliate you choose who you do business with and what you promote. And when you use pics of girls that look underaged and place them on your site that's your responsibility not any sponsors'.
When you become a drugdealer you can't blame your wholesaler when you get busted. You can take him down with you ,but it will not take away your responsibilty.

Chio The Pirate 12-14-2006 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 11528112)
Taking into consideration him saying they didnt have a legal department, I doubt Slick has a lawyer.

Oh Btw.

That shit storm I was talking about?!

http://news.google.com/news?q=direct...utf-8&oe=utf-8

This looks to be the start.

YARGH!
I am sure what he meant by saying the support guy said "they didn't have one" meant they didn't have the number for the legal department, which is what slick asked for.

jact 12-14-2006 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PMdave (Post 11529899)
Hmmmm??? didn't see any sponsors whining that directnic canned their domain. Their turn will come. As an afilliate you choose who you do business with and what you promote. And when you use pics of girls that look underaged and place them on your site that's your responsibility not any sponsors'.
When you become a drugdealer you can't blame your wholesaler when you get busted. You can take him down with you ,but it will not take away your responsibilty.

While the above is true, if the wholesaler is exposed, they don't generally lie blameless either. In this case however, Slick's taking all the heat for displaying these questionable images with no mention of sponsors who do this day in and day out.

In the end it really doesn't matter, it'll sort itself out and it'll probably take the heavy hand of a gov't hell bent on seeing us destroyed vs self regulation. Old argument.

SomeCreep 12-14-2006 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11529884)
Would you like the host to do the same thing? "we have a complaint here that your sites contain illegal images. So rather than making you fix it or shut down, can we help you move to another host that has no clue so you can keep going?"

Perhaps the processors... can you just picture CCBilll "Well, we can't process for your stuff because it appears some of the models are under 18 and you don't want to produce the documents... but hey, we will help you transfer over to paycom, no problems!"

Yup. let's all just pass the buck.

Webhosts and processors could be held liable legally for the content which they host or process for. A registrar would not be held liable for the content of the website for which it merely maintains the registration of domain.

jact 12-14-2006 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 11529934)
Webhosts and processors could be held liable legally for the content which they host or process for. A registrar would not be held liable for the content of the website for which it merely maintains the registration of domain.

I believe that MikeAI's argument was that there was a proposed law on the 8th that would fine certain classes of companies $300,000 for failing to report it, so they were being proactive to a law that was proposed vs enforcing something that'd passed and was enacted.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...t=%24300%2C000

First post for reference.

stickyfingerz 12-14-2006 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11529884)
Would you like the host to do the same thing? "we have a complaint here that your sites contain illegal images. So rather than making you fix it or shut down, can we help you move to another host that has no clue so you can keep going?"

Perhaps the processors... can you just picture CCBilll "Well, we can't process for your stuff because it appears some of the models are under 18 and you don't want to produce the documents... but hey, we will help you transfer over to paycom, no problems!"

Yup. let's all just pass the buck.

Sorry but that analogy is terrible. A domain name is property. That is the larger issue here. They are stealing from him period. If there is a problem of legality that is an issue for the law to handle, not a registrar. If they dont want to allow him to do business with him then they should tell him to transfer his domains out. If they feel there is something illegal they should report what they find questionable to the authorities and at that point they are free of any possible liability.

MikesTraffic 12-14-2006 07:02 PM

Fuck em man

Pleasurepays 12-14-2006 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 11529958)
Sorry but that analogy is terrible. A domain name is property. That is the larger issue here. They are stealing from him period.


so you firmly believe that EVERY registrar has TOS that are granting themselves illegal powers?

have you sent them the notice yet? won't they be shocked to learn that some kid on GFY is 5 steps ahead of about 200 attorneys?

stickyfingerz 12-14-2006 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11530124)
so you firmly believe that EVERY registrar has TOS that are granting themselves illegal powers?

have you sent them the notice yet? won't they be shocked to learn that some kid on GFY is 5 steps ahead of about 200 attorneys?

First off you being 3 years older than me doesnt give you the right to call me "kid" Secondly are you saying a domain name is not property? Think there was some case recently where some guy who lost a domain for years and years got it returned to him. Hmm now what domain was that. lol Someone go tell that judge to reverse the ruling cause PleasurePays doubts it.

A company can write that if you break their tos you have to lick a kangaroos pussy. Does that make it law? lmfao. :1orglaugh


Oh and TREE FIDDY!

Pleasurepays 12-14-2006 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 11528554)
ok obviously you are the paragon, the very epitome, of logic, rationalism and intelligence.

Now will you shut the fuck up?

translation:

"ok, you have stripped me of my standby, default argument - "you are a asshole republican and religious nut" and i have nothing else to say because i can't participate in any conversation in a rational, calm and intelligent manner discussing important points and looking at all sides of the issue... without retreating to partisan politics and babbling on about how Clinton should have became the first Supreme Emporer of Planet Earth"


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:31 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©2000-, AI Media Network Inc123