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Nookster 12-14-2006 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jact (Post 11527857)
I fail to see how a bank asking YOU for YOUR id compares to DN asking Slick for the model's id. Third party identification is not first party identification and this argument doesn't stand up.

Very well said. If only everyone would be smart enough to know that difference. :2 cents:

HostGladiator 12-14-2006 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11527848)
it's called a sharpie marker. Get one.

I have plenty, thanks.. Sharpie it out and you run the risk of them saying you altered the ID.

jact 12-14-2006 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11527854)
Same arguments as before. Trust me, anyone shooting CP ain't getting model IDs, and ain't staying in contact with the models after to get a current ID.

CP people don't keep 2257 records... and that is the point.

You seem to need a refresher on why we have 2257 then.

Pleasurepays 12-14-2006 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TeenGodFather (Post 11527825)
What if the content(ID) was shot in 1997 and the girl was born in 1984?
What does the ID prove in that case? You sort of need full docs to make any use of the ID's..

i'm not saying anything one way or the other. but to answer your question... they didn't ask to see everything. they wanted a pic/date of birth... they could have clarified that. however, i am fairly certain that they put some thought into the request before they made it being that they have in house legal staff and were threatening to interrupt someones business.

also... i would speculate that asking for information doesn't violate any privacy laws. providing information in a way that violates privacy laws would. holding someone hostage while requiring them to provide information that is not lawful for them to provide, i doubt means that DirectNIC is violating any federal or state privacy laws. privacy laws are centered around information and how it must be stored and when and how it can be shared in various circumstances and in various situations (medical records, financial records etc etc)

JFK 12-14-2006 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jact (Post 11527722)
Sued or not, you can't take allegations back, you can't take what people think of you back, you can't reverse the damage that this will do to slick for the rest of his life.

wise words:2 cents:

scardog 12-14-2006 12:58 PM

How would he provide the IDs, if he was using FHGs? Will programs provide those to affiliates?

crockett 12-14-2006 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick (Post 11527580)
I haven't heard anything from them since yesterday, so I'm not sure why they just pulled the plug without warning.

If you see the sponsors listed on my page, you'd see that they are ALL legit sponsors. IF the girls are all 18, it's legal, case closed. It shouldn't be "well, they LOOK younger than 18, it's illegal, shut it down".

Damn man I feel for you. I had already made up my mind to move my domains away from them because of the way they are handling this. This just confirms it.. What a bunch of ass hats.

On a side note, I know all your thumbs are sponsor hosted FHG's however even myself being in the teen niche I kinda thought some of your thumbs were a bit pushing it. Not just the teen stuff but even some of the others.

However that's just my personal opinion and I do think DirectNic is way out of line here. I hope you sue the shit out of them because I know your network brings in some good money. They are causing a lot of lost income with this stunt which will be hard as hell to recover.

baddog 12-14-2006 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeakEasy (Post 11527716)
That is 100% true. DN didn't just decide to hassle you one day, they have orders to do so. Get your Lawyed NOW and prepare for the feds. This isnt a matter of DN thinking somethings wrong with your sites, it's much higher than that.:2 cents:

this is pretty accurate I would guess

RawAlex 12-14-2006 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by insomniac768 (Post 11527869)
I have plenty, thanks.. Sharpie it out and you run the risk of them saying you altered the ID.

wow... this isn't a 2257 inspection dude! Nobody is going to bitch for black lines of un-required info!

SiMpLe 12-14-2006 12:59 PM

Holy shit!

Pleasurepays 12-14-2006 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by insomniac768 (Post 11527828)
Yes, that pic/DOB can also contain (depending on the state) social security number, blood type and of course a home address.

a "pic" and "date of birth" is not the same as all other data. my question was simply about the law and what the law defines as personally ideantifying information. not whether or not you intelligent enough to understand that the ID can have all other data blacked out before its shown to someone.

aico 12-14-2006 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches (Post 11527849)
My bank asked me for a picture ID when I wrote a check for cash yesterday. The stores ask for one when I use my credit card or write a check. They aren't representatives of the DOJ either :thumbsup

DN is loaded with lawyers. I can't imagine they turned Slick off without a reason, but if they did, he has EVERY right to sue them. He already has an attorney. I suspect, like when he first approached this situation by making a post here instead of contacting DirectNic or his attorney, that he again posted here before knowing the story of what's going on.

But AGAIN, for those of you who feel someone's "seeding" me, lol, if DN screwed up, they deserve to be sued.


Not that it matters, but, there's a large difference between voluntarily showing someone your own ID, and showing someone some else's ID without their permission or knowledge.

nation-x 12-14-2006 01:00 PM

it loads fine for me...

Slick 12-14-2006 01:00 PM

I just called up DirectNic support and they said I was shut down due to illegal content. I asked for a phone number for the legal department, but they said they didn't have one.

HometownHardcore 12-14-2006 01:01 PM

Doesn't load here for me

jact 12-14-2006 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick (Post 11527906)
I just called up DirectNic support and they said I was shut down due to illegal content. I asked for a phone number for the legal department, but they said they didn't have one.

Did they say suspected or alleged illegal content, or simply "illegal content"?

Jace 12-14-2006 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick (Post 11527906)
I just called up DirectNic support and they said I was shut down due to illegal content. I asked for a phone number for the legal department, but they said they didn't have one.

holy shit

that is pretty crazy

Slick 12-14-2006 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jact (Post 11527912)
Did they say suspected or alleged illegal content, or simply "illegal content"?

They said Illegal Content.

jact 12-14-2006 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick (Post 11527918)
They said Illegal Content.

Be sure to mention that to your council the next conversation you have.

Slick 12-14-2006 01:03 PM

The thing is that a few of the sponsors stepped up and offered me the documents of the model's IDs, as long as I kept them confidential. That's really great of them, but I guess it won't help me now.

xclusive 12-14-2006 01:04 PM

They better have proof if they are straight out saying it's illegal and not just think it is. I can't wait to see how this all plays out as it's very important for all of us.

directfiesta 12-14-2006 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jact (Post 11527857)
I fail to see how a bank asking YOU for YOUR id compares to DN asking Slick for the model's id. Third party identification is not first party identification and this argument doesn't stand up.

went thru that yesterday with all of them, but to no avail.
Don't forget, this is GFY, and most here are uneducated and cannot form a logical reasonning.
:2 cents:

Nookster 12-14-2006 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick (Post 11527918)
They said Illegal Content.

Make sure you can get proof that you have no illegal content and sue the fuck out of them. :2 cents:

woj 12-14-2006 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by insomniac768 (Post 11527828)
Yes, that pic/DOB can also contain (depending on the state) social security number, blood type and of course a home address.

Directnic (I think) said that those pieces of information can be covered up, that they only needed dob and picture...

HostGladiator 12-14-2006 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11527892)
wow... this isn't a 2257 inspection dude! Nobody is going to bitch for black lines of un-required info!

That maybe true but DN has no authority or right to ask to see any models ID. They aren't the FBI or the DOJ.

Peaches 12-14-2006 01:05 PM

OK, OK, I was wrong about the ID thing - sorry ;)

Slick, YOU HAVE AN ATTORNEY! Damn, dude - use him.

aico 12-14-2006 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 11527942)
Directnic (I think) said that those pieces of information can be covered up, that they only needed dob and picture...

They also said he had until the 18th to provide them. I double checked my calendar, and it's still the 14th here.

sextoyking 12-14-2006 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick (Post 11527918)
They said Illegal Content.

Slick,

With as many lawyers as directnic has - they wouldn't of done this for no reason at all, trust me. They have been serving the adult industry for many many years.

I know you feel picked on, hurt, etc, etc but no one knows who talked to directnic or who they talked to, i.e. feds, etc.

I would seek counsel ASAP and shut up asap....

loosing some domains / profits is bad enough but if there was bs images or whatever - loosing liberty is something to ponder.

no drama, just listen to counsel.

Pete-KT 12-14-2006 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick (Post 11527906)
I just called up DirectNic support and they said I was shut down due to illegal content. I asked for a phone number for the legal department, but they said they didn't have one.

No legal department? wow now thats fucked up, Slick im a couple hours away from you hit me up if you need anything bro

Manowar 12-14-2006 01:07 PM

Bump once more

Jace 12-14-2006 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches (Post 11527951)
OK, OK, I was wrong about the ID thing - sorry ;)

Slick, YOU HAVE AN ATTORNEY! Damn, dude - use him.

just because he is posting on here and updating us doesn't mean he isn't also talking to his attorney

NoComments 12-14-2006 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick (Post 11527797)
Ya know, I'll have to say it again, I HAVE NO CHILD PORN ON MY FUCKING PAGES !!!!! There are sites out there that are CLEARLY showing child porn, why not go after them.

What the fuck is this, the fucking Pat Robertson Messageboard ???

don't worry, son, you are not the first and not the last stupid mothefuck who was fucked by the system. In porn business, being extreamely stupid is a punishable offense.

Never mind me, I'll enjoy your crying on GFY very soon,
you've seen nothing yet. You can thank your stipidity for ALL of it.

carry on.

Slick 12-14-2006 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete-KT (Post 11527959)
No legal department? wow now thats fucked up, Slick im a couple hours away from you hit me up if you need anything bro

Thanks man, I appreciate it.

RawAlex 12-14-2006 01:08 PM

Slick, a little advice... I would take a moment to make sure your PC at home is VERY clean, okay? Nothing to get alarmed about, but if this got reported to the authorities, you might get a nice knock knock one of these days... so make sure that your cache is clean, know what I mean?

Slick 12-14-2006 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Winetalk (Post 11527967)
don't worry, son, you are not the first and not the last stupid mothefuck who was fucked by the system. In porn business, being extreamely stupid is a punishable offense.

Never mind me, I'll enjoy your crying on GFY very soon,
you've seen nothing yet. You can thank your stipidity for ALL of it.

carry on.

Thanks for cheering me up, your posts really make me feel much better :)

Pete-KT 12-14-2006 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick (Post 11527971)
Thanks man, I appreciate it.

anytime bro

Peaches 12-14-2006 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 11527964)
just because he is posting on here and updating us doesn't mean he isn't also talking to his attorney

His attorney (if he's a decent one) would have told him to STFU on a public message board, IMO.

Anthony 12-14-2006 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick (Post 11527981)
Thanks for cheering me up, your posts really make me feel much better :)

This shitstorm is just beginning, Serge was warning you up front.

Jace 12-14-2006 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches (Post 11527986)
His attorney (if he's a decent one) would have told him to STFU on a public message board, IMO.

i agree with that, but what can ya do, ya know?

Pleasurepays 12-14-2006 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Winetalk (Post 11527967)
don't worry, son, you are not the first and not the last stupid mothefuck who was fucked by the system. In porn business, being extreamely stupid is a punishable offense.

Never mind me, I'll enjoy your crying on GFY very soon,
you've seen nothing yet. You can thank your stipidity for ALL of it.

carry on.

on a funny and someone fortuitous note.. on The History Channel right now is a documentary about Joliette prison... level 1, maximum security. Doesn't seem that bad really... unless you are a cop or involved in cp/pedophilia.

RawAlex 12-14-2006 01:12 PM

yeah, Serge is pretty good at predicting shitstorms for some reason... :)

scottybuzz 12-14-2006 01:12 PM

I have read this whole thread through and the ONLY opinion that counts or matters is Webby's

GET THE FUCK OFF GFY AND SOLVE THIS WITH A LAWYER. you are wasting crucial time here.

jact 12-14-2006 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 11527992)
This shitstorm is just beginning, Serge was warning you up front.

I think that's the understatement of the century at this point. It's going to be interesting to watch how this pans out not only for Slick, but anyone dealing in "legal" teen content.

aico 12-14-2006 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches (Post 11527986)
His attorney (if he's a decent one) would have told him to STFU on a public message board, IMO.

They'd also have a # for the legal dept... which makes me think he doesn't have an attorney as of yet.

Pleasurepays 12-14-2006 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 11528009)
I have read this whole thread through and the ONLY opinion that counts or matters is Webby's

GET THE FUCK OFF GFY AND SOLVE THIS WITH A LAWYER. you are wasting crucial time here.

he's been told that many times... his refusal to do so might offer some insight into why he is in the position he is in.

:2 cents:

WiredGuy 12-14-2006 01:17 PM

Which sponsors were the FHG's from?
WG

Anthony 12-14-2006 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jact (Post 11528011)
I think that's the understatement of the century at this point. It's going to be interesting to watch how this pans out not only for Slick, but anyone dealing in "legal" teen content.

Bro,

I'm glad I'm out of the teen market myself.

I know how it feels to be in this position.

jact 12-14-2006 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 11528043)
Bro,

I'm glad I'm out of the teen market myself.

I know how it feels to be in this position.

The last company I worked for focused entirely on the teen market, the younger looking the better (While legal). It made me very uneasy dealing with that content. I'm very, very glad to be out of it.

Sure, it makes money, of course it does, it appeals to that huge market that fantasize about being with just barely post-pubescent teens, but that doesn't make it morally right.

I'm sure I'll get slammed for this post, but everyone's entitled to their opinions and their comfort levels, "legal" teen content where the girls look uber young, wear braces, pigtails, teddybears, etc, isn't within my comforts.

NoComments 12-14-2006 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11528003)
on a funny and someone fortuitous note.. on The History Channel right now is a documentary about Joliette prison... level 1, maximum security. Doesn't seem that bad really... unless you are a cop or involved in cp/pedophilia.

I was always wondering....
where the faces on posters come from? Does anybody look for them specifically,
or poster boys look for publishers.

This idiot is surely looking for publisher...and I can see somebody granting him the wish and all benefits associated with martyrdom
;)

NoComments 12-14-2006 01:23 PM

holy fuck, how do I do it! I love top spot on the page
;)


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