Paymonde: Due Diligence - GoFuckYourself.com

mistermee · 11-07-2006, 03:49 PM

If you need a nice little break from your daily panic attack about the increasingly probable meltdown of Paymonde (aka the new Ibill), perhaps you ought to try a nice bit of googling...

Start with the name "norton burah" -- president of Paymonde. Seems Norton is very fond of giving interviews as well as issuing press releases, particularly extolling the protection of the public (and webmasters) from, of all things, fraud.

My personal favourite is from AVN:
"My Virtualcard Kills Fraud Dead"

But there's lots more out there and I encourage all interested webmasters to take a few moments to introduce yourself to the life and times of Mr. Burah.

If you'd like to drop a note (or some other type of paper) to and/or on Nort, you might wish to send it to this address:

Mr. Norton Burah
President
Paymonde
2021 Union Suite 818
Montreal, Quebec h3a 2s9 Ca

Rather than bothering Mr. Burah with any further correspondence (to which, from past experience, we assume he will not bother to reply) we are planning on sending something directly to the RMCP and other official legal bodies in the Province of Quebec.

Enjoy!

123Roman · 11-07-2006, 04:06 PM

don't forget ceo Howard Cohen

"?A lot people came to us and said that [other companies] have a debit card system and we have a lot of problems with them. You guys are always trying hard to please your customers, you should try to come up with a debit card program where people can access their funds at an ATM machine,? MyVirtualCard CEO Howard Cohen told AVNOnline.com."

http://temp.avnonline.com/index.php?...tent_ID=207026

Webby · 11-07-2006, 04:16 PM

There are a few people who have an interest in MyVirtualCard from the past - and prob good reason for MVC "disappearing" and Paymode rising from the ashes.

Here's a sampler...

http://willeystudios.com/

All of these corp names or net faces, MyVirtualCard, Funds2Go and Paymode, are interconnected in more than just "trading relationships" despite claims by "JollyJoe" to the contrary.

Webby · 11-07-2006, 04:18 PM

BTW... This domain was a contact for a processor.. yaskifo.com. There may, or may not be a connection. The background on yaskifo.com is that is was used as a contact point (email) and closed down immediately funds were owning to clients. (With the usual modus operandi of hiding behind maildrop addresses and corp names)

Barefootsies · 11-07-2006, 04:22 PM

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=674741

mistermee · 11-07-2006, 04:22 PM

No, we must not forget Mr. Cohen nor, for that matter, the "voice" of Paymonde here on GFY, none other than the suddenly very quiet Mr. Joshua Ungar (aka jungar -- do a search for his posts on GFY). He's only made a mere 377 posts on this board alone.

His GFY info:

email: [email protected]
ICQ: 339460672

More to come!

123Roman · 11-07-2006, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistermee

No, we must not forget Mr. Cohen nor, for that matter, the "voice" of Paymonde here on GFY, none other than the suddenly very quiet Mr. Joshua Ungar (aka jungar -- do a search for his posts on GFY). He's only made a mere 377 posts on this board alone.

His GFY info:

email: [email protected]
ICQ: 339460672

More to come!

He doent work for the company anymore...he left over the summer...

hent · 11-07-2006, 04:27 PM

im pretty sure josh (jungar) is no longer with them.,

Barefootsies · 11-07-2006, 04:27 PM

Well it's not for lack of trying to get answers the past week.

-Regular e-mail.
-A.W.W. e-mail to CEO and pres.
-ICQ
-Support Ticket(s)
-Phone Calls.

None returned.

Barefootsies · 11-07-2006, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 123Roman

He doent work for the company anymore...he left over the summer...

Maybe he left with everyone's payouts?

pradaboy · 11-07-2006, 04:31 PM

Joshua isn't with them anymore, hasn't been since June.

He has nothing to do with all the shit they're causing.

123Roman · 11-07-2006, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Maybe he left with everyone's payouts?

doubt it...they were ok back then..no problems with them in june...

Theo · 11-07-2006, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Maybe he left with everyone's payouts?

No he didn't. He was sales manager, nothing to do with it.

Kenny B! · 11-07-2006, 04:32 PM

Josh left in June he hsn't been with the company for a while!

Barefootsies · 11-07-2006, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

No he didn't. He was sales manager, nothing to do with it.

O.I.C.

diesel · 11-07-2006, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistermee

No, we must not forget Mr. Cohen nor, for that matter, the "voice" of Paymonde here on GFY, none other than the suddenly very quiet Mr. Joshua Ungar (aka jungar -- do a search for his posts on GFY). He's only made a mere 377 posts on this board alone.

His GFY info:

email: [email protected]
ICQ: 339460672

More to come!

He is not working there anymore and left in June.

123Roman · 11-07-2006, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

O.I.C.

told ya lol

Barefootsies · 11-07-2006, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 123Roman

told ya lol

Perhaps he knew something then, and jumped ship.

123Roman · 11-07-2006, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Perhaps he knew something then, and jumped ship.

it was common knowledge that philippine bank was losing mastercard...kimmykim even said so...

Kenny B! · 11-07-2006, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Perhaps he knew something then, and jumped ship.

He left to have a little break and go back to his studies

Barefootsies · 11-07-2006, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 123Roman

it was common knowledge that philippine bank was losing mastercard...kimmykim even said so...

123Roman · 11-07-2006, 04:56 PM

where is gooddomains?

Quotealex · 11-07-2006, 04:56 PM

It pains me to ear bad rumours about a company that's from my backyard.

Barefootsies · 11-07-2006, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 123Roman

where is gooddomains?

My guess is he is still spinning on this..

mistermee · 11-07-2006, 05:17 PM

If, as has been reported, Mr. Ungar has left the ailing S.S. Paymonde, then I humbly ask his pardon for having suggested in this thread that he is in any way associated with the current management.

As far as our friends Nort and Howie are concerned, I'm assuming -- until otherwise disabused of the notion (that is, until we are paid) -- that both are rats who have yet to leave the sinking ship.

BTW: I earnestly hope that I am wrong. Perhaps they're merely taking a short holiday, perhaps in a picturesque African or Eastern European nation.

RegUser · 11-07-2006, 06:36 PM

well so far as I am concenred i am still getting payments from them w/o a hitch

Barefootsies · 11-07-2006, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RegUser

well so far as I am concenred i am still getting payments from them w/o a hitch

Good news for you atleast.

mistermee · 11-07-2006, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RegUser

well so far as I am concenred i am still getting payments from them w/o a hitch

This is good news...for you, at least. How comes it tho that so many others are not receiving their payments? This is extraordinarily interesting. We have received nothing from them this week and yet some are reporting payments. This makes me even MORE nervous and upset than before.

If some webmasters are receiving payments and others are not, then we must assume that they have now undertaken a policy of paying some and not others. And what, one wonders, is the criterion for that?

HighSociety · 11-07-2006, 08:02 PM

still waiting for this weeks payment, this is the first time in 2 years it has not arrived on monday or tuesday. normally if it is late it will post of tuesday, i have 11,000 dollars sitting in the 6 month hold and stand to lose that if they were to shut down

MaddCaz · 11-07-2006, 08:05 PM

wow. Address and all....

Barefootsies · 11-07-2006, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by made2ordervideos

still waiting for this weeks payment, this is the first time in 2 years it has not arrived on monday or tuesday. normally if it is late it will post of tuesday, i have 11,000 dollars sitting in the 6 month hold and stand to lose that if they were to shut down

Barefootsies · 11-07-2006, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaddCaz

wow. Address and all....

Pete-KT · 11-07-2006, 08:30 PM

That sucks i got a nice chunk of change sitting in the account on reserve and a little bit from rebills I stopeed using them when josh left

gooddomains · 11-08-2006, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 123Roman

where is gooddomains?

All will be fine. Another day another Ibill.

gooddomains · 11-08-2006, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Good news for you atleast.

See, all is fine.

gooddomains · 11-08-2006, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

My guess is he is still spinning on this..

I'd hit it for sure

gooddomains · 11-08-2006, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 123Roman

it was common knowledge that philippine bank was losing mastercard...kimmykim even said so...

no no, all will be fine. No problems with anything. The will do it the Ibill way.

gooddomains · 11-08-2006, 02:11 AM

bump 4 a honest company where nobody knows if it's located in Canada, the UK or the Philipines

123Roman · 11-08-2006, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by gooddomains

bump 4 a honest company where nobody knows if it's located in Canada, the UK or the Philipines

pimp

Barefootsies · 11-08-2006, 07:50 AM

Another day..
Another missing dollar.

Barefootsies · 11-08-2006, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gooddomains

All will be fine. Another day another Ibill.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gooddomains

See, all is fine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gooddomains

I'd hit it for sure

Quote:

Originally Posted by gooddomains

no no, all will be fine. No problems with anything. The will do it the Ibill way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gooddomains

bump 4 a honest company where nobody knows if it's located in Canada, the UK or the Philipines

123Roman · 11-08-2006, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

hey guy

Barefootsies · 11-08-2006, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 123Roman

hey guy

hey back to roman

11-07-2006, 03:49 PM	#1
mistermee Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 104	Paymonde: Due Diligence If you need a nice little break from your daily panic attack about the increasingly probable meltdown of Paymonde (aka the new Ibill), perhaps you ought to try a nice bit of googling... Start with the name "norton burah" -- president of Paymonde. Seems Norton is very fond of giving interviews as well as issuing press releases, particularly extolling the protection of the public (and webmasters) from, of all things, fraud. My personal favourite is from AVN: "My Virtualcard Kills Fraud Dead" But there's lots more out there and I encourage all interested webmasters to take a few moments to introduce yourself to the life and times of Mr. Burah. If you'd like to drop a note (or some other type of paper) to and/or on Nort, you might wish to send it to this address: Mr. Norton Burah President Paymonde 2021 Union Suite 818 Montreal, Quebec h3a 2s9 Ca Rather than bothering Mr. Burah with any further correspondence (to which, from past experience, we assume he will not bother to reply) we are planning on sending something directly to the RMCP and other official legal bodies in the Province of Quebec. Enjoy!

11-07-2006, 04:06 PM	#2
123Roman Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 237	don't forget ceo Howard Cohen "?A lot people came to us and said that [other companies] have a debit card system and we have a lot of problems with them. You guys are always trying hard to please your customers, you should try to come up with a debit card program where people can access their funds at an ATM machine,? MyVirtualCard CEO Howard Cohen told AVNOnline.com." http://temp.avnonline.com/index.php?...tent_ID=207026 Last edited by 123Roman; 11-07-2006 at 04:08 PM..

11-07-2006, 04:16 PM	#3
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	There are a few people who have an interest in MyVirtualCard from the past - and prob good reason for MVC "disappearing" and Paymode rising from the ashes. Here's a sampler... http://willeystudios.com/ All of these corp names or net faces, MyVirtualCard, Funds2Go and Paymode, are interconnected in more than just "trading relationships" despite claims by "JollyJoe" to the contrary. __________________ XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

11-07-2006, 04:18 PM	#4
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	BTW... This domain was a contact for a processor.. yaskifo.com. There may, or may not be a connection. The background on yaskifo.com is that is was used as a contact point (email) and closed down immediately funds were owning to clients. (With the usual modus operandi of hiding behind maildrop addresses and corp names) __________________ XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat. Last edited by Webby; 11-07-2006 at 04:20 PM..

11-07-2006, 04:22 PM	#5
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11-07-2006, 04:27 PM	#8
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11-07-2006, 04:31 PM	#11
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11-07-2006, 04:32 PM	#14
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11-07-2006, 04:56 PM	#22
123Roman Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 237	where is gooddomains?

11-07-2006, 04:56 PM	#23
Quotealex Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: The Global Digerati Village Posts: 6,265	It pains me to ear bad rumours about a company that's from my backyard.

11-07-2006, 05:17 PM	#25
mistermee Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 104	If, as has been reported, Mr. Ungar has left the ailing S.S. Paymonde, then I humbly ask his pardon for having suggested in this thread that he is in any way associated with the current management. As far as our friends Nort and Howie are concerned, I'm assuming -- until otherwise disabused of the notion (that is, until we are paid) -- that both are rats who have yet to leave the sinking ship. BTW: I earnestly hope that I am wrong. Perhaps they're merely taking a short holiday, perhaps in a picturesque African or Eastern European nation.

11-07-2006, 06:36 PM	#26
RegUser Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,472	well so far as I am concenred i am still getting payments from them w/o a hitch

11-07-2006, 08:02 PM	#29
HighSociety Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,786	still waiting for this weeks payment, this is the first time in 2 years it has not arrived on monday or tuesday. normally if it is late it will post of tuesday, i have 11,000 dollars sitting in the 6 month hold and stand to lose that if they were to shut down __________________ http://www.highsociety.com http://www.playgirl.com http://www.cheri.com Jonathan "JC" Maldini ICQ: 223 643

11-07-2006, 08:05 PM	#30
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11-07-2006, 08:30 PM	#33
Pete-KT Workin With The Devil Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Bloomfield, MI Posts: 51,532	That sucks i got a nice chunk of change sitting in the account on reserve and a little bit from rebills I stopeed using them when josh left

11-08-2006, 02:11 AM	#38
gooddomains Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 10,127	bump 4 a honest company where nobody knows if it's located in Canada, the UK or the Philipines

11-08-2006, 07:50 AM	#40
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	Another day.. Another missing dollar. __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"