Paymonde: Due Diligence

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  • mistermee
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2005
    • 104

    #1

    Paymonde: Due Diligence

    If you need a nice little break from your daily panic attack about the increasingly probable meltdown of Paymonde (aka the new Ibill), perhaps you ought to try a nice bit of googling...

    Start with the name "norton burah" -- president of Paymonde. Seems Norton is very fond of giving interviews as well as issuing press releases, particularly extolling the protection of the public (and webmasters) from, of all things, fraud.

    My personal favourite is from AVN:
    "My Virtualcard Kills Fraud Dead"

    But there's lots more out there and I encourage all interested webmasters to take a few moments to introduce yourself to the life and times of Mr. Burah.

    If you'd like to drop a note (or some other type of paper) to and/or on Nort, you might wish to send it to this address:

    Mr. Norton Burah
    President
    Paymonde
    2021 Union Suite 818
    Montreal, Quebec h3a 2s9 Ca

    Rather than bothering Mr. Burah with any further correspondence (to which, from past experience, we assume he will not bother to reply) we are planning on sending something directly to the RMCP and other official legal bodies in the Province of Quebec.

    Enjoy!
  • 123Roman
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2006
    • 237

    #2
    don't forget ceo Howard Cohen



    "?A lot people came to us and said that [other companies] have a debit card system and we have a lot of problems with them. You guys are always trying hard to please your customers, you should try to come up with a debit card program where people can access their funds at an ATM machine,? MyVirtualCard CEO Howard Cohen told AVNOnline.com."


    http://temp.avnonline.com/index.php?...tent_ID=207026
    Last edited by 123Roman; 11-07-2006, 02:08 PM.

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    • Webby
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Oct 2002
      • 14956

      #3
      There are a few people who have an interest in MyVirtualCard from the past - and prob good reason for MVC "disappearing" and Paymode rising from the ashes.

      Here's a sampler...

      http://willeystudios.com/

      All of these corp names or net faces, MyVirtualCard, Funds2Go and Paymode, are interconnected in more than just "trading relationships" despite claims by "JollyJoe" to the contrary.
      XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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      • Webby
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Oct 2002
        • 14956

        #4
        BTW... This domain was a contact for a processor.. yaskifo.com. There may, or may not be a connection. The background on yaskifo.com is that is was used as a contact point (email) and closed down immediately funds were owning to clients. (With the usual modus operandi of hiding behind maildrop addresses and corp names)
        Last edited by Webby; 11-07-2006, 02:20 PM.
        XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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        • Barefootsies
          Choice is an Illusion
          • Feb 2005
          • 42635

          #5

          http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=674741
          Should You Email Your Members?

          Link1 | Link2 | Link3

          Enough Said.

          "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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          • mistermee
            Confirmed User
            • Dec 2005
            • 104

            #6
            No, we must not forget Mr. Cohen nor, for that matter, the "voice" of Paymonde here on GFY, none other than the suddenly very quiet Mr. Joshua Ungar (aka jungar -- do a search for his posts on GFY). He's only made a mere 377 posts on this board alone.

            His GFY info:

            email: [email protected]
            ICQ: 339460672

            More to come!

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            • 123Roman
              Confirmed User
              • Oct 2006
              • 237

              #7
              Originally posted by mistermee
              No, we must not forget Mr. Cohen nor, for that matter, the "voice" of Paymonde here on GFY, none other than the suddenly very quiet Mr. Joshua Ungar (aka jungar -- do a search for his posts on GFY). He's only made a mere 377 posts on this board alone.

              His GFY info:

              email: [email protected]
              ICQ: 339460672

              More to come!
              He doent work for the company anymore...he left over the summer...

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              • hent
                Confirmed User
                • Dec 2005
                • 192

                #8
                im pretty sure josh (jungar) is no longer with them.,
                ICQ: 331 531 469

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                • Barefootsies
                  Choice is an Illusion
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 42635

                  #9
                  Well it's not for lack of trying to get answers the past week.

                  -Regular e-mail.
                  -A.W.W. e-mail to CEO and pres.
                  -ICQ
                  -Support Ticket(s)
                  -Phone Calls.

                  None returned.

                  Last edited by Barefootsies; 11-07-2006, 02:29 PM.
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                  • Barefootsies
                    Choice is an Illusion
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 42635

                    #10
                    Originally posted by 123Roman
                    He doent work for the company anymore...he left over the summer...
                    Maybe he left with everyone's payouts?

                    Should You Email Your Members?

                    Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                    Enough Said.

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                    • pradaboy
                      sell me your banners
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 12931

                      #11
                      Joshua isn't with them anymore, hasn't been since June.

                      He has nothing to do with all the shit they're causing.
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                      • 123Roman
                        Confirmed User
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 237

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Barefootsies
                        Maybe he left with everyone's payouts?

                        doubt it...they were ok back then..no problems with them in june...

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                        • Theo
                          HAL 9000
                          • May 2001
                          • 34515

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Barefootsies
                          Maybe he left with everyone's payouts?


                          No he didn't. He was sales manager, nothing to do with it.

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                          • Kenny B!
                            Confirmed Abuser
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 5718

                            #14
                            Josh left in June he hsn't been with the company for a while!
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                            • Barefootsies
                              Choice is an Illusion
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 42635

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                              No he didn't. He was sales manager, nothing to do with it.
                              O.I.C.

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                              Enough Said.

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                              • diesel
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jan 2001
                                • 1097

                                #16
                                Originally posted by mistermee
                                No, we must not forget Mr. Cohen nor, for that matter, the "voice" of Paymonde here on GFY, none other than the suddenly very quiet Mr. Joshua Ungar (aka jungar -- do a search for his posts on GFY). He's only made a mere 377 posts on this board alone.

                                His GFY info:

                                email: [email protected]
                                ICQ: 339460672

                                More to come!
                                He is not working there anymore and left in June.
                                Last edited by diesel; 11-07-2006, 02:37 PM.

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                                • 123Roman
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Oct 2006
                                  • 237

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                  O.I.C.

                                  told ya lol

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                                  • Barefootsies
                                    Choice is an Illusion
                                    • Feb 2005
                                    • 42635

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by 123Roman
                                    told ya lol
                                    Perhaps he knew something then, and jumped ship.

                                    Should You Email Your Members?

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                                    Enough Said.

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                                    • 123Roman
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Oct 2006
                                      • 237

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                      Perhaps he knew something then, and jumped ship.

                                      it was common knowledge that philippine bank was losing mastercard...kimmykim even said so...

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                                      • Kenny B!
                                        Confirmed Abuser
                                        • Jun 2003
                                        • 5718

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                        Perhaps he knew something then, and jumped ship.

                                        He left to have a little break and go back to his studies
                                        Kenny -at- YourPaysitePartner.com
                                        Skype: kennyb514

                                        Do business with us:
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                                        • Barefootsies
                                          Choice is an Illusion
                                          • Feb 2005
                                          • 42635

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by 123Roman
                                          it was common knowledge that philippine bank was losing mastercard...kimmykim even said so...
                                          Should You Email Your Members?

                                          Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                          Enough Said.

                                          "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                          • 123Roman
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Oct 2006
                                            • 237

                                            #22
                                            where is gooddomains?

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                                            • Quotealex
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Sep 2001
                                              • 6265

                                              #23
                                              It pains me to ear bad rumours about a company that's from my backyard.

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                                              • Barefootsies
                                                Choice is an Illusion
                                                • Feb 2005
                                                • 42635

                                                #24
                                                Imonde

                                                Originally posted by 123Roman
                                                where is gooddomains?
                                                My guess is he is still spinning on this..

                                                Should You Email Your Members?

                                                Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                                Enough Said.

                                                "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                                • mistermee
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Dec 2005
                                                  • 104

                                                  #25
                                                  If, as has been reported, Mr. Ungar has left the ailing S.S. Paymonde, then I humbly ask his pardon for having suggested in this thread that he is in any way associated with the current management.

                                                  As far as our friends Nort and Howie are concerned, I'm assuming -- until otherwise disabused of the notion (that is, until we are paid) -- that both are rats who have yet to leave the sinking ship.

                                                  BTW: I earnestly hope that I am wrong. Perhaps they're merely taking a short holiday, perhaps in a picturesque African or Eastern European nation.

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                                                  • RegUser
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Nov 2004
                                                    • 1472

                                                    #26
                                                    well so far as I am concenred i am still getting payments from them w/o a hitch

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                                                    • Barefootsies
                                                      Choice is an Illusion
                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                      • 42635

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by RegUser
                                                      well so far as I am concenred i am still getting payments from them w/o a hitch
                                                      Good news for you atleast.

                                                      Should You Email Your Members?

                                                      Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                                      Enough Said.

                                                      "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                                      • mistermee
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Dec 2005
                                                        • 104

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by RegUser
                                                        well so far as I am concenred i am still getting payments from them w/o a hitch
                                                        This is good news...for you, at least. How comes it tho that so many others are not receiving their payments? This is extraordinarily interesting. We have received nothing from them this week and yet some are reporting payments. This makes me even MORE nervous and upset than before.

                                                        If some webmasters are receiving payments and others are not, then we must assume that they have now undertaken a policy of paying some and not others. And what, one wonders, is the criterion for that?

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                                                        • HighSociety
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jun 2005
                                                          • 1786

                                                          #29
                                                          still waiting for this weeks payment, this is the first time in 2 years it has not arrived on monday or tuesday. normally if it is late it will post of tuesday, i have 11,000 dollars sitting in the 6 month hold and stand to lose that if they were to shut down
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                                                          • MaddCaz
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Mar 2006
                                                            • 9483

                                                            #30
                                                            wow. Address and all....

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                                                            • Barefootsies
                                                              Choice is an Illusion
                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                              • 42635

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by made2ordervideos
                                                              still waiting for this weeks payment, this is the first time in 2 years it has not arrived on monday or tuesday. normally if it is late it will post of tuesday, i have 11,000 dollars sitting in the 6 month hold and stand to lose that if they were to shut down
                                                              Should You Email Your Members?

                                                              Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                                              Enough Said.

                                                              "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                                              • Barefootsies
                                                                Choice is an Illusion
                                                                • Feb 2005
                                                                • 42635

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by MaddCaz
                                                                wow. Address and all....
                                                                Should You Email Your Members?

                                                                Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                                                Enough Said.

                                                                "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                                                • Pete-KT
                                                                  Workin With The Devil
                                                                  • Oct 2004
                                                                  • 51532

                                                                  #33
                                                                  That sucks i got a nice chunk of change sitting in the account on reserve and a little bit from rebills I stopeed using them when josh left

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                                                                  • gooddomains
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                    • 10127

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by 123Roman
                                                                    where is gooddomains?
                                                                    All will be fine. Another day another Ibill.

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                                                                    • gooddomains
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                      • 10127

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                                      Good news for you atleast.

                                                                      See, all is fine.

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                                                                      • gooddomains
                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                                        • 10127

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                                        My guess is he is still spinning on this..

                                                                        I'd hit it for sure

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                                                                        • gooddomains
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                                          • 10127

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by 123Roman
                                                                          it was common knowledge that philippine bank was losing mastercard...kimmykim even said so...
                                                                          no no, all will be fine. No problems with anything. The will do it the Ibill way.

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                                                                          • gooddomains
                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                                            • 10127

                                                                            #38
                                                                            bump 4 a honest company where nobody knows if it's located in Canada, the UK or the Philipines

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                                                                            • 123Roman
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Oct 2006
                                                                              • 237

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by gooddomains
                                                                              bump 4 a honest company where nobody knows if it's located in Canada, the UK or the Philipines
                                                                              pimp

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                                                                              • Barefootsies
                                                                                Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                • Feb 2005
                                                                                • 42635

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Another day..
                                                                                Another missing dollar.

                                                                                Should You Email Your Members?

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                                                                                Enough Said.

                                                                                "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                                                                • Barefootsies
                                                                                  Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                                  • 42635

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by gooddomains
                                                                                  All will be fine. Another day another Ibill.

                                                                                  Originally posted by gooddomains
                                                                                  See, all is fine.

                                                                                  Originally posted by gooddomains
                                                                                  I'd hit it for sure

                                                                                  Originally posted by gooddomains
                                                                                  no no, all will be fine. No problems with anything. The will do it the Ibill way.

                                                                                  Originally posted by gooddomains
                                                                                  bump 4 a honest company where nobody knows if it's located in Canada, the UK or the Philipines
                                                                                  Should You Email Your Members?

                                                                                  Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                                                                  Enough Said.

                                                                                  "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                                                                  • 123Roman
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Oct 2006
                                                                                    • 237

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Barefootsies
















                                                                                    hey guy

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                                                                                    • Barefootsies
                                                                                      Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                                      • 42635

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by 123Roman
                                                                                      hey guy
                                                                                      hey back to roman

                                                                                      Should You Email Your Members?

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                                                                                      Enough Said.

                                                                                      "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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