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Old 09-26-2006, 06:55 PM   #1
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Rent Hard Candy-awesome Movie

and the lead character has the onscreen nick..LENSMAN..

excellent script and acting
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Old 09-26-2006, 06:59 PM   #2
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Hard Candy ranks among the shittiest movies that I have EVER seen. Want to watch a much better movie (acting, scripting, you name it) that is still somewhat relevant to the industry? Go watch Feed. Sure, it's pretty nasty and downright shitty during times but at least that movie has some shred of dignity and believability, unlike Hard Candy.

Summary is below for anyone who is still considering watching Hard Candy. I warn you I?m not making any of this shit up, the movie is really THIS BAD:

The movie starts out slower than forest gump with the 14 year old slut girl entrapping the older man (I think he?s in his 30?s) to meet her at some gay ass disco-wannabe place via IM chat. They meet and talk, at this point she knows he?s a photographer. She wants to go back to his place, so they go. He offers her a drink, she says no, fixes it herself and him one also. His has a drug in it, he passes out.

Well? not too much longer after him passing out he wakes up dazed and confused as to what the fuck?s happened. Turns out 14 year old slut girl isn?t really a slut girl at all but a heroine with super powers of every sort determined to make this guy commit suicide for taking pictures of a child that he witness die. To get ?proof?, she uses her degree in cryptanalysis to crack the guys safe and finds a picture of the girl (or something, during this part of the movie I was already in a trance at its stupidity).

You think this is where the movie gets stupid but you?d be wrong? really wrong. I can?t quite remember what happens at this point, I remember he?s tied up to a chair and has a gun (he?s swirling around on this swivel chair like a maniac trying to get a shot at this 14-year old super hero). I think he gets hit on the head and then she reveals another one of her powers, super strength. She puts him up on this table and prepares to operate on him (she tells him the best way to help society is to castrate him).

During all of this whole ordeal he keeps telling her he?s not a pedophile and please not to cut out my nuts. She sets up a camera and TV system so he can watch his own castration; turns out that this is all just a ploy as she put in a tape on castration (which she filmed in her spare time I guess, man this chick has every super power in existence!) and is just mind-fucking him royally. He gets pissed when he realizes he?s still a man (hey, I?d be happy) and goes into the bathroom where he thinks she?s taking a shower.

SHE?S NOT! She?s came even more prepared and uses her lightning powers on him to knock him out (ok, so this was a stungun). Then here comes her super power wudan powers again; she somehow (again, she?s a sub 90lb chick) hoists this 200+ lb man up onto the ceiling in the kitchen where she wants him to commit suicide via hanging. He doesn?t do it, he gets the ?leg up? so to speak and tries to choke her to death with his legs.

He fails (because she?s a god or something) and it all eventually leads to a rooftop ?fight? of sorts. In a previous sceen, the 14 year old bitch girl has called his ex girlfriend (I think it was his girlfriend) just so that she can watch him commit suicide. Somehow she convinces him to commit suicide and that she?ll clear up the whole incident of the whole CP thing and make everything right. He bargains, says he?ll tell her where the guy that killed the girl she?s talking about is at. She says that?s funny, he said the same thing about you (there?s her SUPER INTELLECT!). He then kills himself. THE END.

To make a long story short: 14-year old petite girl defeats 30 year old fairly tall and robust man using her array of various super powers (which ranges from cryptanalysis to vast super strength and mental manipulation) in order to ultimately get the guy to kill himself.

NOW SERIOUSLY, if you go out and watch this movie you are fucking more retarded than jesus christ for giving up your life for humanity.
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Old 09-26-2006, 07:28 PM   #3
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that's why every major critic in the country is giving this movie RAVE reviews..and wait until Oscar nominees come out I bet the little girl gets a nod..book mark this thread.

I also predicted Ellen Burstyen from Requeuim of a Dream would get an Oscar Nod and she did.. I think you're way off base on this one
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Old 09-26-2006, 07:29 PM   #4
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yeah i heard it was a good movie too...
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Old 09-26-2006, 07:31 PM   #5
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This movie took just 18 days to film and it obviously shows. While the film looks fairly nice for being shot in such a short period of time, its content suffered greatly because of the rush. The movie changed direction more than a retard behind the wheel of a car. Again, if you want a movie similar to this (as in relating to the industry) but doesn?t totally blow chunks (actually, in one scene, she does blow chunks!) then watch Feed.

If you want an easy reason to kill yourself, then feel free to watch this piece of shit movie. In fact I recommend everyone who needs a reason to kill themselves, buy this DVD right now. You won?t regret it, it?ll make your decision to slit your wrists/OD on drugs/drown yourself/shoot yourself in the head all that much easier.
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Old 09-26-2006, 08:08 PM   #6
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ok ok..we heard you the 1st time.
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never heard of it
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I watched it last night and LOVED it. I squirmed during the castration though.

I have no time to read notabook's 10 paragraph review...obviously he took the movie personally ;)
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Old 09-26-2006, 08:17 PM   #9
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Be glad you haven?t. If you decide to watch this wretch of a movie you will end up clawing out your eyeballs and shoving them in your ears. It?s completely unrealistic and a waste of time, while trying to convince you the viewer that it?s perfectly plausible. This little 14 year old petite girl has superhuman strength (she?s able to lift this 200lb+ man with ease, multiple times), a super intellect (she tracks down another guy prior to this one guy, and she presumably tortures him until he gives up the current guy?s whereabouts), and she is evidently a fucking master cryptanalysis as well (she defeats the guys safe combination in like 10 minutes!). If the premise of this movie was supposed to be that this 14 year old little petite girl is the reincarnation of jesus himself and is a fucking wudan warrior, computer hacking psychoanalyzing BITCH, then mission accomplished. Otherwise? I SWEAR TO YOU, this movie is a complete farce and if you watch it you?re submitting yourself to two hours of mind-numbing torture in which your very sanity will start to shatter.
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Old 09-26-2006, 08:19 PM   #10
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thanks for the info, ill have to see it
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I have no time to read notabook's 10 paragraph review...obviously he took the movie personally ;)
Hardly. It's a piss-poor movie that was filmed in just 18 days and it clearly shows because of its shoddiness and I am trying to let people know just how shitty of a movie it is so they don't have to suffer and waste away two hours of their life that they will never get back. The movie had such great potential ? instead it sets a 14 year old super-powered petite sub 90-lb heroine against a 30 year old 200lb man. She?s a master cryptanalysis, she has super-strength, she has super-intellect? please, if I wanted to watch a movie with about as much plausibility as Hard Candy I?d watch METEOR MAN. Feed kicks this movies ass and then some, looks like they had since to spend more than 18 fucking days on it.
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I watched it last night and LOVED it. I squirmed during the castration though.

I have no time to read notabook's 10 paragraph review...obviously he took the movie personally ;)
yea he seems to have some deep personal feelings about this movie..just say you didn't like it..that's all
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yea he seems to have some deep personal feelings about this movie..just say you didn't like it..that's all
I'd prefer to pick it apart, showing how the movie is horribly flawed and completely unrealistic. I'd rather watch Garfield II than this piece of shit. At least that movie was more plausabile than Hard Candy. I guess that's why they decided to go with that title eh? Because it is "hard to swallow".
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I watched it last night and LOVED it. I squirmed during the castration though.
btw, it wasn't castration if you didn't pick up on that, it was all fake. She never did anything to him other than play mind games with him (well, other than of course managing to use her super strength to lift him up several times, or her master cryptanalysis skills to crack his safe combination, oh yeah and she stunned him that one time).
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why are you telling everyone the whole fucking story..maybe just maybe..someone doesn't take your opinion and wants to actually watch it..this doesn't have to be a total crusade. it's just a movie that I thought was very good..and you didn't, big deal..geezus


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Feed kicks this movies ass and then some, looks like they had since to spend more than 18 fucking days on it.
I saw "Feed" also and I didn't like it nearly as much as Hard Candy. IMO, when you go to a movie, you should suspend reality. Otherwise, I'd believe in Hobbits and magic rings. Anyhow...different strokes and all that.

btw...a lot of movies (especially indies) are filmed on a similar time schedule. Given that pretty much the entire movie is set in one area, it's do-able in just over 2 weeks. No special effects, no moving from location to location.
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great fucking movie, first bit creeped me out though.
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I saw "Feed" also and I didn't like it nearly as much as Hard Candy. IMO, when you go to a movie, you should suspend reality. Otherwise, I'd believe in Hobbits and magic rings. Anyhow...different strokes and all that.

btw...a lot of movies (especially indies) are filmed on a similar time schedule. Given that pretty much the entire movie is set in one area, it's do-able in just over 2 weeks. No special effects, no moving from location to location.
Uh? when a movie?s purpose is SUPPOSED to be realism, it shouldn?t have hobbits and magic rings in it. This movie does. It has a 14 year old chick with super powers (I?ve already explained this a 100 times, so no need to do it again). The movie had a chance to be great. Instead it?s just another run-of-the-mill superhero story. As for Feed, I really didn?t care for it either ? it?s just that it manages to create more realism than the piece of shit that hard candy is which is laughable.

About indie films, absolutely correct. I?d gather that most of them have a production schedule of more than eighteen fucking days though, barely half a month! My favorite indie film of all time is probably Rabbit-Proof Fence, oh how it was masterfully done. I?m sure it was just a few months on that but it looks like it took years to perfect. Was a beautiful movie and it stayed true with it?s goal of telling a true story of the plight of a native people. Sure Hard Candy stayed at one location basically, but they should have used some of that time to read their script "Do you think somebody will get pissed off that this little girl has super powers? NAAAAAH".
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Uh? when a movie?s purpose is SUPPOSED to be realism, it shouldn?t have hobbits and magic rings in it. This movie does. It has a 14 year old chick with super powers (I?ve already explained this a 100 times, so no need to do it again). The movie had a chance to be great. Instead it?s just another run-of-the-mill superhero story. As for Feed, I really didn?t care for it either ? it?s just that it manages to create more realism than the piece of shit that hard candy is which is laughable.

About indie films, absolutely correct. I?d gather that most of them have a production schedule of more than eighteen fucking days though, barely half a month! My favorite indie film of all time is probably Rabbit-Proof Fence, oh how it was masterfully done. I?m sure it was just a few months on that but it looks like it took years to perfect. Was a beautiful movie and it stayed true with it?s goal of telling a true story of the plight of a native people. Sure Hard Candy stayed at one location basically, but they should have used some of that time to read their script "Do you think somebody will get pissed off that this little girl has super powers? NAAAAAH".

oh boy...it's just a movie and several people seen it and liked it..it's really Ok that you didn't..we still love you
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oh boy...it's just a movie and several people seen it and liked it..it's really Ok that you didn't..we still love you
I?m just trying to warn people because I care about their mental stability though I know I shouldn?t. But I do. My robot god Lord Archiot commands it, so it must be done. This movie is so piss poor, and just so unrealistic, that it becomes just about the biggest waste of two hours of your life that you will never get back. Seriously, spending two hours at a dentist getting your teeth drilled into the fucking gum would feel better than watching Hard Candy.

Summary: Little super-powered girl has the power of super strength, super intellect, and to top it off she is a master cryptanalysis. She is a sub 90lb 14 year old little petite girl and manages to lift a 6ft 200lb man with ease several times. She tracks down guy #1, gets him to kill himself but before he does he gives her guy #2 (main guy of Hard Candy) location in attempt to save his life. She manages to make guy #1 kill himself anyways. Finally she?s a master cryptanalysis because she cracks this guys floor safe (although in this case it was a table-safe) in all but 10 minutes.

Finally? this little 14 year old little petite girl manages to get the guy #2 (main guy in Hard Candy) to off himself. HE KILLS HIMSELF! What a pussy! This movie? I swear to Jebus? it will make YOU want to kill yourself if you watch it. It?s a complete waste of time; seriously go ice skating or something for two hours because THAT WOULD BE LESS GAY THAN THIS MOVIE!
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I'm having deja vu. We had this thread once before complete with Notabook's 10 page review that gives away every point of the movie.
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I'm having deja vu. We had this thread once before complete with Notabook's 10 page review that gives away every point of the movie.
You know it! Most of it has been completely copy & pasted with a few adjustments here and there.
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oddly enough I have the movie on the way from netflix so I can actually see it for myself.
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oddly enough I have the movie on the way from netflix so I can actually see it for myself.
God damn, I figured you'd seen it by now. That other thread was a month old! It's really not that bad of a movie once you get past the implausibility of it. The way she mind fucks the shit out of the guy is quite impressive. Anyways, fuck this shit, I?m going to sleep. Haven?t had sleep for three days and now I?m sure I?ll have nightmares about a 14 year old petite little girl with super powers. Gah.
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God damn, I figured you'd seen it by now. That other thread was a month old! It's really not that bad of a movie once you get past the implausibility of it. The way she mind fucks the shit out of the guy is quite impressive. Anyways, fuck this shit, I?m going to sleep. Haven?t had sleep for three days and now I?m sure I?ll have nightmares about a 14 year old petite little girl with super powers. Gah.
during the last thread I added the movie to my netflix que and it is supposed to arrive tomorrow. Hopefully I will get a chance to watch it this week.
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i saw the film and i really dont think its worth it...

hard to explain, it was okay, but not really worth it
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I just finished watching it and I thought it was a pretty good movie but it's not something I'd watch again. The acting was excellent.

Basiclly it's about a young girl that has some guy by the balls until he finally reaches the end of his rope.
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Hard Candy ranks among the shittiest movies that I have EVER seen. Want to watch a much better movie (acting, scripting, you name it) that is still somewhat relevant to the industry? Go watch Feed. Sure, it's pretty nasty and downright shitty during times but at least that movie has some shred of dignity and believability, unlike Hard Candy.

Summary is below for anyone who is still considering watching Hard Candy. I warn you I?m not making any of this shit up, the movie is really THIS BAD:

The movie starts out slower than forest gump with the 14 year old slut girl entrapping the older man (I think he?s in his 30?s) to meet her at some gay ass disco-wannabe place via IM chat. They meet and talk, at this point she knows he?s a photographer. She wants to go back to his place, so they go. He offers her a drink, she says no, fixes it herself and him one also. His has a drug in it, he passes out.

Well? not too much longer after him passing out he wakes up dazed and confused as to what the fuck?s happened. Turns out 14 year old slut girl isn?t really a slut girl at all but a heroine with super powers of every sort determined to make this guy commit suicide for taking pictures of a child that he witness die. To get ?proof?, she uses her degree in cryptanalysis to crack the guys safe and finds a picture of the girl (or something, during this part of the movie I was already in a trance at its stupidity).

You think this is where the movie gets stupid but you?d be wrong? really wrong. I can?t quite remember what happens at this point, I remember he?s tied up to a chair and has a gun (he?s swirling around on this swivel chair like a maniac trying to get a shot at this 14-year old super hero). I think he gets hit on the head and then she reveals another one of her powers, super strength. She puts him up on this table and prepares to operate on him (she tells him the best way to help society is to castrate him).

During all of this whole ordeal he keeps telling her he?s not a pedophile and please not to cut out my nuts. She sets up a camera and TV system so he can watch his own castration; turns out that this is all just a ploy as she put in a tape on castration (which she filmed in her spare time I guess, man this chick has every super power in existence!) and is just mind-fucking him royally. He gets pissed when he realizes he?s still a man (hey, I?d be happy) and goes into the bathroom where he thinks she?s taking a shower.

SHE?S NOT! She?s came even more prepared and uses her lightning powers on him to knock him out (ok, so this was a stungun). Then here comes her super power wudan powers again; she somehow (again, she?s a sub 90lb chick) hoists this 200+ lb man up onto the ceiling in the kitchen where she wants him to commit suicide via hanging. He doesn?t do it, he gets the ?leg up? so to speak and tries to choke her to death with his legs.

He fails (because she?s a god or something) and it all eventually leads to a rooftop ?fight? of sorts. In a previous sceen, the 14 year old bitch girl has called his ex girlfriend (I think it was his girlfriend) just so that she can watch him commit suicide. Somehow she convinces him to commit suicide and that she?ll clear up the whole incident of the whole CP thing and make everything right. He bargains, says he?ll tell her where the guy that killed the girl she?s talking about is at. She says that?s funny, he said the same thing about you (there?s her SUPER INTELLECT!). He then kills himself. THE END.

To make a long story short: 14-year old petite girl defeats 30 year old fairly tall and robust man using her array of various super powers (which ranges from cryptanalysis to vast super strength and mental manipulation) in order to ultimately get the guy to kill himself.

NOW SERIOUSLY, if you go out and watch this movie you are fucking more retarded than jesus christ for giving up your life for humanity.

I'm sold, I have GOT to see this movie.
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I just watched the movie.
Here is my thoughts:

Cast: Very good. I think the girl they picked for the part is the right combination of tough, pretty and vulnerable all at once. The guy they get is the right combination of charming, creepy and at times sympathetic. Both play their roles really well.

Plot: Overall it is pretty ludicrous. It's a good idea but there are a lot of flaws. First off the girl probably is physically incapable of doing some of the things she does. Maybe they try to get around this by having a couple of scenes where she has her shirt off and is wearing a sports bra and you see that she is muscular and very fit. But still it seems too far fetched. Secondly she is supposed to be a 14 year old girl. I'm not a parent, but I don't know any 14 year old kid that talks like this girl does. I have met some smart kids in my life, but even they don't talk like this. She converses like a 30 year sophisticate not a 14 year old kid. In the end there are too many loopholes to the story for it to make much sense. I kind of got the feeling that maybe she wasn't really 14, but she looks young so she presented herself as being that age to attract this guy's attention. How she finds him an how thing unfold are also pretty unrealistic.

If you want some escapist entertainment with some nice dialogue and you are willing to accept the bending of reality, you will probably like it. If you are looking for some kind of revenge movie you will probably like it. But if you are looking for a good, heavy drama you will probably be disappointed.
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Hard Candy was fucking awesome. I recommend it !

Notabook has some personal beef with the movie it seems.
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Notabook has some personal beef with the movie it seems.
Not at all. I just like movies that focus on realism to have some realism in it. A petite short 70 pound girl simply could not have done what she did to the 6 foot man. If I wanted to watch a movie about chicks with superpowers I would have watched Supergirl or Heroes. FEED was a more realistic movie than this piece of shit.
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have no idea what notabook was talking about
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Not at all. I just like movies that focus on realism to have some realism in it. A petite short 70 pound girl simply could not have done what she did to the 6 foot man. If I wanted to watch a movie about chicks with superpowers I would have watched Supergirl or Heroes. FEED was a more realistic movie than this piece of shit.
i read this thread before i saw the movie and was looking for the stuff you mentioned but did not see it, the girl had an advantage each time
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Notabook has written more in this thread than I have my whole life.
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I've seen the movie... It's overly dramatised and notabook is right regarding the girl having the strength of Arnie... Also I found the girl in the film REALLY ANNOYING but thats just personal preference...


Although the operation scene made me cringe majorly...
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i figured that the girl was older

she wrapped that guys face in saran wrap and it probably diminished his fight because if he were to kill her or make her pass out, then he would die as well...then the second time, he had a stun gun and he was covered with wat, made sense to me
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i read this thread before i saw the movie and was looking for the stuff you mentioned but did not see it, the girl had an advantage each time
Hehehe... biggest issue is she manages to hoist up the man several different times without the use of a pulley system. This would have been impossible for her to do, especially the kitchen scene. OH MY GOD PLEASE DON'T USE YOUR SUPER POWERS ON ME ZOMG!
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i figured that the girl was older

she wrapped that guys face in saran wrap and it probably diminished his fight because if he were to kill her or make her pass out, then he would die as well...then the second time, he had a stun gun and he was covered with wat, made sense to me
can you explain how she was able to carry and tie up the guy at the end in the kitchen? would take alot of strength to lift up and suspend dead weight like that...
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I was actually kinda disappointed...
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can you explain how she was able to carry and tie up the guy at the end in the kitchen? would take alot of strength to lift up and suspend dead weight like that...
The guy was not especially fat, and (while passed out) she could pull his body across the floor. To get him up, she used the rope:



in any case, i dont disagree that some parts of the movie were not completely 100% realistic, but not any more so than many other films out there?they needed to fit a story into 1.5-2 hours and may have decided to skimp on some things, but overall, it was a good movie

i have no idea how piece brosnan was able to fold a painting double the size of a suitcase into it without damaging it, and that was among the most unrealistic things I have ever seen, but The Thomas Crown Affair is still in my top 5 favorite movies
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The guy was not especially fat, and (while passed out) she could pull his body across the floor. To get him up, she used the rope:


She had no pulley system to work with, so just hoisting the rope over the rail and attaching it to the guy isn't going to achieve a whole lot. She can tug on that all day but her small ass 70 pound body isn't going to do a lot for her. Not to mention by the time of the kitchen scene she has to be fairly exhausted as she has gotten the shit kicked out of her (kicked in head, multiple concussive force done to her chest and back from him ramming into her with the chair and forcing her back against the wall).
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i liked how she had a red overcoat reminiscent of the little red riding hood story
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i liked how she had a red overcoat reminiscent of the little red riding hood story
I actually liked that symbolism as well. Comparing the guy to the big bad wolf was a nice touch... the movie did do a whole lot of things right.
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my brother just watched the movie, so i had a chance to see that scene again and the way that she had the rope set up was:

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I rented that movie because of this thread and I loved it. I watch movies to escape from reality.

If you wanted reality put on Surivivor or some shit.

I liked the message. I related alot to the lead actor I must admit.
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it was a good rental movie but would never go watch in the actual theaters
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