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ControlThy · 06-26-2002, 01:56 AM

No real response to Labret's remarks with regards to the hypocrisy shown by some people?

Anyone who currently runs sites that allow underage individuals to access adult material should not speak.

Nurgle · 06-26-2002, 02:33 AM

Hey nocostporn.. how about you GFY. Have you nothing better to do with your time.. Surely such a big adult like yourself should be busy making money than worrying about who wants to be an adult webmaster?

Nurgle

Jakke PNG · 06-26-2002, 02:33 AM

When I started out, it was because one of my schoolmates had a website, and I thought what the hell. I started my own sites on my 20mb ISP hosting and got listed at PK when I was 16. The Xpics checks were worth (illegal) beer! I was happy. I'd still be if I got listed @ PK.

I'm now 23, and as naive and stupid. Still, I wasn't so stupid that I, at the time, admitted of being 16.
I didn't know shit then, I had no idea of BBS's or anything. I wish I'd known, I might be a bigboy now.

Guess this post was ranting, without any point.

nocostporn · 06-26-2002, 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nurgle
Hey nocostporn.. how about you GFY. Have you nothing better to do with your time.. Surely such a big adult like yourself should be busy making money than worrying about who wants to be an adult webmaster?

Nurgle

I pointed it out for the boards sake... You act like it's not a problem that a 16 year old kid is slinging porn... but you are the same people who say a girl who is 17 years 364 days old is CP...what the fuck is the difference?? Just because he's a guy? I think that 16 year old girl should have been banend too...Had motherfuckers asking to see her titties and now I'm sure they feel like fools...

I didn't make the "18" law so don't shove it down my throat that I like to see it enforced... if R Kelly can't dick a 15 year old girl who is willing because she isnt 18 well then a 16 year old boy shouldnt be dealing porn...nuff said... the kid is banned,maybe that shows you who is right on the subject

Nurgle · 06-26-2002, 02:50 AM

Who said anything about CP?.. ohh and no i dont find it a problem.

All thats been admitted to here is the creation of websites by someone under 18 not the peddling or engaging in CP...

I take it when your on the freeways you ring the cops to let them know when someone is speeding.. as you like to see the law enforced at all times.. right?

Nurgle

nocostporn · 06-26-2002, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nurgle
Who said anything about CP?.. ohh and no i dont find it a problem.

All thats been admitted to here is the creation of websites by someone under 18 not the peddling or engaging in CP...

I take it when your on the freeways you ring the cops to let them know when someone is speeding.. as you like to see the law enforced at all times.. right?

Nurgle

I wasn't saying it's CP you fool... I was simply showing the hypocrisy.... You're saying somebody under 18 should be able to distribute porn BUT they can't ever participate themselves...come the fuck on,that makes NO sense what so ever...
I said it has nothing to do with the kid or anybody else for that matter, I was pointing this out to all the admins because I wouldnt want to see something stupid happen to the board over one kid.... clown

Nurgle · 06-26-2002, 04:01 AM

hehe oh well we can disagree on this subject, which is the beauty of such a forum!

Nurgle

bhutocracy · 06-26-2002, 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by steffie
I got something for all those underage kids who run pornsites..
I know of a Webmaster who is 16. He is great and did very well until about 2 month ago (he made about 2k per month)
So read this one!!

He received a domain renewel notice in the mail and left it in his bedroom at home. His mom, normally never gets into his room was getting his dirty clothes and found it. She checked out the site and than called the company he registered the domain in. There she found out about him having the domain and paying for all that with a credit - debit card she allowed to use him from his checking account he wanted to badly (now she knew why)

She contacted his host and since he was underage she requested all the money back he paid for hosting or would sue the hosting company because you need to be of legal age (18) to sign any contracts. She got it back!

She contacted all his sponsors on the sites and told them, they closed his accounts and kept the money, since he was underage.

I think he is now grounded for life. Thats the story I got from him befor I never seen him again on ICQ and his site is gone now.

I never knew and we linked him from a bunch of sites and he linked us back. His sites I knew did well because we received a lot of traffic from them.

Just me

I guess it pays to be 18 and start it. However maybe you want to start free sites like e-zines and get traffic on them. Than when youre 18 nail them with ads. Than you already have the traffic

WTF?
stupid meddling slut... parents today.. no wonder kids take out classmates with uzis...
IF she had half a brain she would have made him save up for his own university costs or something.. jeez.. meter out punishment but reward resourcefulness... maybe get a hand with the mortgage in return for allowing him to continue.. fuck theres any number of ways for both parties to benefit.. It sucks when kneejerk reactionism outweighs rational thought. Guess she was very religious or something.

my only problem with 16yr olds is that with the amount of cheaters and less than upstanding community members we have in this industry getting them in that young doesn't help.. a 16 year old is far more likely to not care of the consequences of his actions as someone older.. they haven't had to bear the brunt of their own decisions yet..

of course im not saying the youngsters are all nefarious.. but for instance, i was just down at the supermarket and while i was in shopping, two 16 year olds kicked trolleys into the front of my car.. just little cocks out at night with a few drinks in them.. they don't understand the value of property yet.. they still get fed and clothes washed by their mothers..
luckily the car didn't get a scratch on it.. we got a name of one of the check out girls who went to school with them.. if there was so much as a dent they would have been very fucking sorry.. would have done their fucking parents job for them.... though they didn't even have the brains to damage a car properly.. kicked the trolleys into the front fender which stopped the paint from getting scratched.. losers.

Mr.Fiction · 06-26-2002, 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ControlThy
No real response to Labret's remarks with regards to the hypocrisy shown by some people?

Anyone who currently runs sites that allow underage individuals to access adult material should not speak.

This argument doesn't hold water. It is parents responsibility to educate and make and enforce rules for their kids. It is not Lensman's job, or any webmaster's job, nor is it even possible, to try to find out the age of every person who visits their site. There are steps that can be taken, but there is no 100% solution, and some solutions cause problems for consenting adults. It can, however, be argued that it is a webmaster's responsibility to respond when he/she finds out that someone might be breaking the law by visiting his/her site illegally.

A more relevant argument would be this:

Anyone who owns an adult site, and knows about specific kids who have registered as members of that site, but who have not made an attempt to ban those underage members, are hypocrites if they ask Lensman to ban underage members of GFY.

I'm sure that there are kids that do anything and everything whenever and wherever they want. That doesn't make a webmaster a hypocrite for asking that specific people, once identified as minors, get banned, per existing law.

If I was a kid I would sit quietly and learn, but when you're a kid, being quiet isn't always easy.

akississweet · 06-26-2002, 04:50 AM

damn right top tgp

who cares...half of everyone here is probably underaged...its just a matter of who admits it.

there wouldnt be that amount of success in the porn industry if it werent for the kids.

Gemini · 06-26-2002, 05:37 AM

Its not illegal to post on a (ADULT _ PORN) message board....
____________________________________

Anyone here consider what happens if you do business with one of these kids?

Say Momma finds out, calls the cops and some cop starts digging. Finds mssgs in ICQ or where ever where you are agreeing to set up links etc etc etc (with a minor)

Contractual law aside (as well as free porn sites that follow the current laws for access)

You can get charged with:

Pandering obscenity to a minor (ALL porn is obscene to a minor under most state laws)

Contributing to the delinquency of a minor...

And there is a whole host of other laws pertaining to this area... they might not be specific to the adult industry but they could and WOULD be applied.

Now YOU are set up for: high fines and in alot of states jail time. We are looking at class one misdemeanors as well as felonies in some states.

What could you do if they find the evidence you know you are dealing wtih a kid? Not a D*MNED thing but pay the fine and do the time. A minor is basically shielded with the contract laws and what not.

And get a nasty judge in a bad mood (which they are quite often) and the not knowing they are a minor won't help a whole lot.

Who wants to deal with that BS... wondering if they are gonna come a'knockin' from some jerk 16 yr old wanting to make cigarette money?

Nevermind that all the sponsors we have ever come acrossed has in their TOS that you muct be 18.

You fine upstanding folks crying for the kiddies to be allowed to play think about that law angle. The cops will be getting worse and worse when this sort of thing surfaces and will be hunting for everyone dealing with the kid. I believe its: KLANK... click click when those cell doors shut.

12clicks · 06-26-2002, 06:17 AM

looks like Lens has more accounts to clean out.

PicsULove · 06-26-2002, 08:11 AM

Well I guess I am one of the lucky four that this thread was made for. I totally agree with TopTGP and you other people who say who gives a fuck. Yes, we know its illegal, but guess what, so is pot and how many posts about pot are there on this board? I guess i will just have to remind you that you are "mature" webmasters but you guys also break rules. Fuck we dont want that happening, it would be like a damn AOL chat room. Anyways you are wrong about what you said nocosporn, I have my own creditcard in my own name as well as all my friends, even ones who arent rich and parents give them money but have jobs and earn money for themselves (like me fuckin grocery store ha)
Anyways I think you guys should just mind your own business..oh well.
Btw, if it was turned into an AVS I of course would use my CC to get on this board and the other teens who may not have a card will just get one off the net....so ya good luck getting rid of the "mature" teens who arent mature enough to follow the law...Pshhh

Quote:

Originally posted by nocostporn

um nobody has a problem with you surfing porn dude,just being on this board
Nobody wants kids surfing point anyways,you don't have credit cards so you do nothing but waste our bandwidth... save face and GFY

Gemini · 06-26-2002, 08:19 AM

While posting about drugs and whatnot might NOT be wise... Pics, those posts made by adults canNOT result in YOU being arrested. Whereas dealing with your butt CAN result in adults being arrested. Is that soooo hard to understand?!

Gemini · 06-26-2002, 08:25 AM

Btw... you may have just admitted to commiting a felony. Defrauding a credit card company would be some SERIOUS charges. Don't most if not all say in their (obviously unread in your case) TOS, over 18 only?!

Sounds like an awful lot of parents need to buy a good paddle and wear it out more often.

PicsULove · 06-26-2002, 08:32 AM

Gem, I understand but you dont always get everything you want man, people will do what they want to do. I do understand it is wrong but I know nobody will find out. My parents dont have a clue about anything, I never use a real phone # when sigining up for anything or I use my cell.
Gem, if I ever get another adult in trouble I will pay them back when im 18 and legal
eh not a very good argument for your reply I will think of something better
but trust me, us mature webmasters but slightly underage that are on this board and others are 10000% better than those underage that do illegal shit (pussy ass shit like carding, trojans, virii, etc, not to mention hitboters and gal cheaters)
Gem and advertising companies dont care how old you are, just to make sure they make money. Its true and they will go out of their way to convince you its not but I read an article in the Houston paper about spammers that work for an adult company (forgot which I'm sure someone knows who it was...) and they got sued. They knew they were underage but didnt care until they got caught cause the underage spammers were making the companies LOTS of money.
If a company goes out of its way to stop illegal business with minors I will respect their intentions and NOT signup with them...but ya thats not happening anytime soon...

PicsULove · 06-26-2002, 08:37 AM

Admitting, uh no I am just stating people my age DO have credit cards and can buy any damn thing they want with them. I HAVE NEVER EVER BOUGHT A MEMBERSHIP TO AN ADULT SITE, NEVER. If the companies cared they would run some ID check but as I stated they DON'T care, they get paid thats all they want

and leave my parents out of it, its my choice

Quote:

Originally posted by Gemini
Btw... you may have just admitted to commiting a felony. Defrauding a credit card company would be some SERIOUS charges. Don't most if not all say in their (obviously unread in your case) TOS, over 18 only?!

Sounds like an awful lot of parents need to buy a good paddle and wear it out more often.

Pathfinder · 06-26-2002, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PicsULove

and leave my parents out of it, its my choice

Your parents are not parenting.

Gemini · 06-26-2002, 09:04 AM

, I have my own creditcard in my own name as well as all my friends,

Better reread your own post darlin. THAT is a public admission. Of course if you were truely mature (smarts to a degree usually go with that nasty M word), you'd know about public admissions of guilt.

Now as to companies allowing kids to affiliate with them... YOU broke the law by lying that you are of legal age. THEY didn't do anything. YOU did.

And what would you do if someone got locked up for 6 months or 3 yrs or whatever. How are you going to make that right as you put it?! Most people would want your blood not your chump change. You're over-inflating your importance to this industry as well as life in general. We CAN get along without your criminal tail end just fine. And that is how it SHOULD be.

And to wrap it all up nice and tight with aa bow, YOU are the one in the wrong. You admit to criminal activity in several posts. Not actually joining an adult site is here nor there. This business isn't hiding a tore up playboy under your mattress... its alot more serious.

Hope your parents are well off to cver attorney fees if someone gets arrested from your actions. The person arrested may not actually win but I know many would cause soooo many attorney fees to be put on Mom and Pop that they'd never have two nickels to rub together again.

PicsULove · 06-26-2002, 09:11 AM

First off nobody can be arrested, I am yet to make any money off my ventures anyways, just for shits and giggles.
Second, nobody would even prosecute this since there are many bigger cases and we simply dont have the man power.
Third, what is illegal about me having my own credit card? I opened it at my bank with my parents there...

This is what I added....
As people said there is nothing illegal posting on this msg board, hell I could be lying and I am really 40 or something. I may just like tlaking to people or something damn. Also those pictures of pot aren't illegal either and I'm sure they just take pictures of their items and then throw it away. I bet they dont smoke it! ha

Rip · 06-26-2002, 09:50 AM

I can't... for the life of me understand why anyone who is under 18, would want to admit that they are?

It doesn't take much research to figure out who you are and what your websites are.

Just for liability reasons...

1. Your webhost is going to cancel you, free host or not
2. Your sponsors are going to cancel you
3. Any content providers that you buy from are going to cancel you
dumb da dumb dumb

SunTzu · 06-26-2002, 09:52 AM

whether you agree a person should be 18 to view/sell porn legally is not the point. Who here didn't watch more porn when they were 16 than an adult? ;)

I have 2 main problems with underage teens and porn:

If they run a site and screw you - you're fucked. They're not held to any contracts they agree to. (think sponsor)

If they surf sites, they're just wasting our bandwidth. I wonder how much of the non-convertable traffic we get is underage?

Maybe we're getting 100% conversions with adults and the rest are just underage?!?

PicsULove · 06-26-2002, 10:03 AM

i agree with the last two posts and am closer to just canceling with my hosting, anyways they sucked, ripped me off 2.99 month haha
it was really too big of a hassle ill just make some galleries now and then, but this board has always been so damn fun and interesting so u cant get me away from it but byebye hosting and site o well
you guys convinced me its not a good image for my parents if they were to ever find out and such oh well

nocostporn · 06-26-2002, 11:32 AM

I like the kid who said that half of everybody here is under 18...
But I think I'm done on this subject...
The bottomline,none of us care that you look at porn,nobody even really gives a fuck that you sell porn but we do care about having you on the board... if a sponsorship company harvest a spammer(s) they face the consequences,same thing applies here
Your parents can sue on everything.... next time be wise and keep your mouth shut about your age,even though these lame ass arguments you clowns are putting up is reason enough....

toddler · 06-26-2002, 12:10 PM

1 more 1 more;)

Something Rip said brought a point to mind. If a minor purchases content from a content provider, that provider would be fucked as well. Do you content providers out there require ID? I know that the small
amount of content i've purchased for sites didn't require ID.

Pic: If I were you, I'd just shut the hell up, you've gone from getting yourself banned, to having people show up at your door.

drunkmonkey · 06-26-2002, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bhutocracy

WTF?
stupid meddling slut... parents today.. no wonder kids take out classmates with uzis...

Tell us how you really think about his mom why don't ya

InsaneMidget · 06-26-2002, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TopTGP
I'm not selling porn. I'm giving the surfers the opportunity to use my banners/text links to buy porn from someone else. Im just throwing galleries around, man. No harm done.

If your making $200 off your pornsite every month, then isn't that selling porn??

I mean, where the fuck do you think your money comes from big guy? I know, I'm only two years older then you, and I started a while back as well. You can choose to do what you want, but doing things legally will get you much farther in this business. I wish you luck, and I know you will continue to work in this industry no matter what people say. However, there are other ways to make cash on the web besides porn. Lots of other industries....

Just remember, you won't be the one paying for this if you get caught, your folks will be...

Gemini · 06-26-2002, 06:54 PM

and I know you will continue to work in this industry...

Maybe and then maybe not!

Gemini · 06-26-2002, 06:59 PM

First off nobody can be arrested

Its sad that you are so full of yourself Pics... You have no idea about laws obviously. Keep showing us your immaculate intelligence! Or should that read immature intelligence?

nocostporn · 06-26-2002, 07:12 PM

everybody was banned...my job is done

somebody go ban that 16 year old girl too... or send her my way

bhutocracy · 06-26-2002, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by drunkmonkey

Tell us how you really think about his mom why don't ya

hehehe

well... 2k a month is more than half of workers in Australia earn.. so if at 16 my child was earning that i think i'd feel pretty happy about the viability of my genes

.... i don't even know how true all aspects of the story are.. but seriously, - get the little fucker to contribute $200 a week to his parents mortgage or his college fund.. talk about kicking the goose with golden eggs in the ass.

drunkmonkey · 06-26-2002, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bhutocracy

hehehe well... 2k a month is more than half of workers in Australia earn.. so if at 16 my child was earning that i think i'd feel pretty happy about the viability of my genes .... i don't even know how true all aspects of the story are.. but seriously, - get the little fucker to contribute $200 a week to his parents mortgage or his college fund.. talk about kicking the goose with golden eggs in the ass.

I agreed with your post totally. I just thought it was funny you called his mom a "stupid meddling slut"

The guys ingenuity should have been accepted and taken advantage of for all parties instead of punished. It reminds me of that movie "Boilerroom" where that kid had a casino going and his dad freaked the fuck out on him. I would be happy as hell if my kids would start making their own money instead of draining my account.

nocostporn · 06-26-2002, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by drunkmonkey

I would be happy as hell if my kids would start making their own money instead of draining my account.

even if he was 16 selling porn? No offense dude but you're a fucked up parent in any light you look at it...

drunkmonkey · 06-26-2002, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nocostporn

even if he was 16 selling porn? No offense dude but you're a fucked up parent in any light you look at it...

hmmm, let me see, I can be a "stupid meddling slut" if I shut it down or a "fucked up parent" by profiting from it. Damn, you judges make it hard. Profit or shut it. Profit or shut it. Tough decision. Yes, I stick to my original statement and will have to forgo your highly valued opinion of me.

I smell someone trying to win a DVD.

Gemini · 06-26-2002, 09:58 PM

How DID this kids measly 200 bucks a month all of a sudden balloon into two grand?!?!

BTW... read the thread.. he says he doesn't make ANYthing then it goes to 200 a month. He is a proven liar so why take ANYthing he has to say as truthful?

Sounds like some people have more greed than brains.

drunkmonkey · 06-26-2002, 10:00 PM

If the love of money is the root of all evil then I am Satan

bhutocracy · 06-26-2002, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gemini
How DID this kids measly 200 bucks a month all of a sudden balloon into two grand?!?!

BTW... read the thread.. he says he doesn't make ANYthing then it goes to 200 a month. He is a proven liar so why take ANYthing he has to say as truthful?

Sounds like some people have more greed than brains.

different kid.. you're getting them confused. toptgp said he made $200 a month.. Steffie's story is the one that we're talking about with the $2k/month figure.

bhutocracy · 06-26-2002, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by drunkmonkey

hmmm, let me see, I can be a "stupid meddling slut" if I shut it down or a "fucked up parent" by profiting from it. Damn, you judges make it hard. Profit or shut it. Profit or shut it. Tough decision. Yes, I stick to my original statement and will have to forgo your highly valued opinion of me.

I smell someone trying to win a DVD.

heheheh.. wouldn't it just be taking part in the family business???

drunkmonkey · 06-26-2002, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bhutocracy

heheheh.. wouldn't it just be taking part in the family business???

Yeah, kindof like Michael Corleone.

"I will make him an offer he cannot refuse"

foe · 06-26-2002, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bhutocracy

WTF?
stupid meddling slut... parents today.. no wonder kids take out classmates with uzis...
IF she had half a brain she would have made him save up for his own university costs or something.. jeez.. meter out punishment but reward resourcefulness... maybe get a hand with the mortgage in return for allowing him to continue.. fuck theres any number of ways for both parties to benefit.. It sucks when kneejerk reactionism outweighs rational thought. Guess she was very religious or something.

my only problem with 16yr olds is that with the amount of cheaters and less than upstanding community members we have in this industry getting them in that young doesn't help.. a 16 year old is far more likely to not care of the consequences of his actions as someone older.. they haven't had to bear the brunt of their own decisions yet..

of course im not saying the youngsters are all nefarious.. but for instance, i was just down at the supermarket and while i was in shopping, two 16 year olds kicked trolleys into the front of my car.. just little cocks out at night with a few drinks in them.. they don't understand the value of property yet.. they still get fed and clothes washed by their mothers..
luckily the car didn't get a scratch on it.. we got a name of one of the check out girls who went to school with them.. if there was so much as a dent they would have been very fucking sorry.. would have done their fucking parents job for them.... though they didn't even have the brains to damage a car properly.. kicked the trolleys into the front fender which stopped the paint from getting scratched.. losers.

Lol i know of a freshman in our school whos parents allowed him to grow weed at home provided they got 25% of the profit

bhutocracy · 06-26-2002, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by drunkmonkey

Yeah, kindof like Michael Corleone.

"I will make him an offer he cannot refuse"

LOL.. heheh... instead of chores the little bastard can make galleries.. I don't think theres anything wrong with a 16 looking at porn.. and if i could get em to help out with the business then so be it.

bhutocracy · 06-26-2002, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by foe

Lol i know of a freshman in our school whos parents allowed him to grow weed at home provided they got 25% of the profit

LOL thats great.. risk and profit management.. these things a growing corporate executive needs

one of my mate's conned his straightlaced parents into buying him weed to help him with his "creative writing"
which was funny because of how conservative they were.. math teachers...

i knew heaps of kids whose parents were dealers though.. so it wasn't a biggy for them to be selling..

drunkmonkey · 06-26-2002, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bhutocracy

LOL.. heheh... instead of chores the little bastard can make galleries.. I don't think theres anything wrong with a 16 looking at porn.. and if i could get em to help out with the business then so be it.

Hell, yeah. I was looking at porn when I was 12 and it caused no ill side effects.

um, nevermind

nocostporn · 06-26-2002, 10:42 PM

I think we have to take in point,that we are adult webmasters... Now I'll admit we aren't the most morally fucked up individuals BUT it's still a taboo business and we don't see that having a kid dealing/veiwing porn as a big deal...somebody who isn't in porn would say otherwise...

Theres no difference in being underage selling and participating... both should be taken seriously... kids are growing up fast as shit now a days... we don't need to contribute to that in a negative way (Yes porn in most cases is negative)

PicsULove · 06-26-2002, 10:42 PM

banned huh? Nope just my 9:30 bedtime haha, actually I was out seeing a movie using my porno money (i wish, i dont make jack shit)

Quote:

Originally posted by nocostporn
everybody was banned...my job is done

somebody go ban that 16 year old girl too... or send her my way

nocostporn · 06-26-2002, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PicsULove
banned huh? Nope just my 9:30 bedtime haha, actually I was out seeing a movie using my porno money (i wish, i dont make jack shit)

lol I like the shout out to GFY and pipecrew www.picsulove.com

go to bed son

bhutocracy · 06-26-2002, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nocostporn
I think we have to take in point,that we are adult webmasters... Now I'll admit we aren't the most morally fucked up individuals BUT it's still a taboo business and we don't see that having a kid dealing/veiwing porn as a big deal...somebody who isn't in porn would say otherwise...

Theres no difference in being underage selling and participating... both should be taken seriously... kids are growing up fast as shit now a days... we don't need to contribute to that in a negative way (Yes porn in most cases is negative)

hey i'd agree it wouldn't look good as a character witness in court.. but i don't believe in passing on other people's taboos... it's just porn for fucks sake. People already have their misdirected preconceptions about me as an adult webmaster.. fuck em... they want me to change my mind? then they'd better pray that people start being born with clothes on. 16 is plenty bloody old enough.. if they're old enough to drive they can help our pa's business

PicsULove · 06-26-2002, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bhutocracy

hey i'd agree it wouldn't look good as a character witness in court.. but i don't believe in passing on other people's taboos... it's just porn for fucks sake. People already have their misdirected preconceptions about me as an adult webmaster.. fuck em... they want me to change my mind? then they'd better pray that people start being born with clothes on. 16 is plenty bloody old enough.. if they're old enough to drive they can help our pa's business

TOTALLY agree. Wow well said.

nocostporn · 06-27-2002, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bhutocracy

hey i'd agree it wouldn't look good as a character witness in court.. but i don't believe in passing on other people's taboos... it's just porn for fucks sake. People already have their misdirected preconceptions about me as an adult webmaster.. fuck em... they want me to change my mind? then they'd better pray that people start being born with clothes on. 16 is plenty bloody old enough.. if they're old enough to drive they can help our pa's business

well as soon as its ok for a 16 year old girl to tell me I can fuck her and everybody else is ok with it...then I'll agree a 16 year old dude should be dealing porn ... nuff said

FlyingIguana · 06-27-2002, 12:31 AM

i bet there's 16 year olds who get laid more than half the people on this board

i don't see what the problem is. but obviously its illegal and if you are under 18, just keep your fucking mouth shut about it. if gfy admins finds out you're under 18 they'd have to ban you.

06-26-2002, 02:33 AM	#103
Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,306	When I started out, it was because one of my schoolmates had a website, and I thought what the hell. I started my own sites on my 20mb ISP hosting and got listed at PK when I was 16. The Xpics checks were worth (illegal) beer! I was happy. I'd still be if I got listed @ PK. I'm now 23, and as naive and stupid. Still, I wasn't so stupid that I, at the time, admitted of being 16. I didn't know shit then, I had no idea of BBS's or anything. I wish I'd known, I might be a bigboy now. Guess this post was ranting, without any point. __________________ ..and I'm off.

06-26-2002, 06:17 AM	#112
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,810	looks like Lens has more accounts to clean out. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

06-26-2002, 08:32 AM	#116
PicsULove Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 82	Gem, I understand but you dont always get everything you want man, people will do what they want to do. I do understand it is wrong but I know nobody will find out. My parents dont have a clue about anything, I never use a real phone # when sigining up for anything or I use my cell. Gem, if I ever get another adult in trouble I will pay them back when im 18 and legal eh not a very good argument for your reply I will think of something better but trust me, us mature webmasters but slightly underage that are on this board and others are 10000% better than those underage that do illegal shit (pussy ass shit like carding, trojans, virii, etc, not to mention hitboters and gal cheaters) Gem and advertising companies dont care how old you are, just to make sure they make money. Its true and they will go out of their way to convince you its not but I read an article in the Houston paper about spammers that work for an adult company (forgot which I'm sure someone knows who it was...) and they got sued. They knew they were underage but didnt care until they got caught cause the underage spammers were making the companies LOTS of money. If a company goes out of its way to stop illegal business with minors I will respect their intentions and NOT signup with them...but ya thats not happening anytime soon... __________________ <a href="http://www.PicsULove.com>PicsULove.com</a>

06-26-2002, 09:11 AM	#120
PicsULove Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 82	First off nobody can be arrested, I am yet to make any money off my ventures anyways, just for shits and giggles. Second, nobody would even prosecute this since there are many bigger cases and we simply dont have the man power. Third, what is illegal about me having my own credit card? I opened it at my bank with my parents there... This is what I added.... As people said there is nothing illegal posting on this msg board, hell I could be lying and I am really 40 or something. I may just like tlaking to people or something damn. Also those pictures of pot aren't illegal either and I'm sure they just take pictures of their items and then throw it away. I bet they dont smoke it! ha __________________ <a href="http://www.PicsULove.com>PicsULove.com</a> Last edited by PicsULove; 06-26-2002 at 09:14 AM..

06-26-2002, 09:50 AM	#121
Rip Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: somewheres wet Posts: 1,456	I can't... for the life of me understand why anyone who is under 18, would want to admit that they are? It doesn't take much research to figure out who you are and what your websites are. Just for liability reasons... 1. Your webhost is going to cancel you, free host or not 2. Your sponsors are going to cancel you 3. Any content providers that you buy from are going to cancel you dumb da dumb dumb __________________ ...

06-26-2002, 01:56 AM	#101
ControlThy Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,909	No real response to Labret's remarks with regards to the hypocrisy shown by some people? Anyone who currently runs sites that allow underage individuals to access adult material should not speak.

06-26-2002, 02:33 AM	#102
Nurgle Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Land of OZ Posts: 2,337	Hey nocostporn.. how about you GFY. Have you nothing better to do with your time.. Surely such a big adult like yourself should be busy making money than worrying about who wants to be an adult webmaster? Nurgle

06-26-2002, 02:50 AM	#105
Nurgle Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Land of OZ Posts: 2,337	Who said anything about CP?.. ohh and no i dont find it a problem. All thats been admitted to here is the creation of websites by someone under 18 not the peddling or engaging in CP... I take it when your on the freeways you ring the cops to let them know when someone is speeding.. as you like to see the law enforced at all times.. right? Nurgle

06-26-2002, 04:01 AM	#107
Nurgle Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Land of OZ Posts: 2,337	hehe oh well we can disagree on this subject, which is the beauty of such a forum! Nurgle

06-26-2002, 04:50 AM	#110
akississweet Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: nyc Posts: 88	damn right top tgp who cares...half of everyone here is probably underaged...its just a matter of who admits it. there wouldnt be that amount of success in the porn industry if it werent for the kids.

06-26-2002, 05:37 AM	#111
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	Its not illegal to post on a (ADULT _ PORN) message board.... ____________________________________ Anyone here consider what happens if you do business with one of these kids? Say Momma finds out, calls the cops and some cop starts digging. Finds mssgs in ICQ or where ever where you are agreeing to set up links etc etc etc (with a minor) Contractual law aside (as well as free porn sites that follow the current laws for access) You can get charged with: Pandering obscenity to a minor (ALL porn is obscene to a minor under most state laws) Contributing to the delinquency of a minor... And there is a whole host of other laws pertaining to this area... they might not be specific to the adult industry but they could and WOULD be applied. Now YOU are set up for: high fines and in alot of states jail time. We are looking at class one misdemeanors as well as felonies in some states. What could you do if they find the evidence you know you are dealing wtih a kid? Not a D*MNED thing but pay the fine and do the time. A minor is basically shielded with the contract laws and what not. And get a nasty judge in a bad mood (which they are quite often) and the not knowing they are a minor won't help a whole lot. Who wants to deal with that BS... wondering if they are gonna come a'knockin' from some jerk 16 yr old wanting to make cigarette money? Nevermind that all the sponsors we have ever come acrossed has in their TOS that you muct be 18. You fine upstanding folks crying for the kiddies to be allowed to play think about that law angle. The cops will be getting worse and worse when this sort of thing surfaces and will be hunting for everyone dealing with the kid. I believe its: KLANK... click click when those cell doors shut.

06-26-2002, 08:19 AM	#114
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	While posting about drugs and whatnot might NOT be wise... Pics, those posts made by adults canNOT result in YOU being arrested. Whereas dealing with your butt CAN result in adults being arrested. Is that soooo hard to understand?!

06-26-2002, 08:25 AM	#115
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	Btw... you may have just admitted to commiting a felony. Defrauding a credit card company would be some SERIOUS charges. Don't most if not all say in their (obviously unread in your case) TOS, over 18 only?! Sounds like an awful lot of parents need to buy a good paddle and wear it out more often.

06-26-2002, 09:04 AM	#119
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	, I have my own creditcard in my own name as well as all my friends, Better reread your own post darlin. THAT is a public admission. Of course if you were truely mature (smarts to a degree usually go with that nasty M word), you'd know about public admissions of guilt. Now as to companies allowing kids to affiliate with them... YOU broke the law by lying that you are of legal age. THEY didn't do anything. YOU did. And what would you do if someone got locked up for 6 months or 3 yrs or whatever. How are you going to make that right as you put it?! Most people would want your blood not your chump change. You're over-inflating your importance to this industry as well as life in general. We CAN get along without your criminal tail end just fine. And that is how it SHOULD be. And to wrap it all up nice and tight with aa bow, YOU are the one in the wrong. You admit to criminal activity in several posts. Not actually joining an adult site is here nor there. This business isn't hiding a tore up playboy under your mattress... its alot more serious. Hope your parents are well off to cver attorney fees if someone gets arrested from your actions. The person arrested may not actually win but I know many would cause soooo many attorney fees to be put on Mom and Pop that they'd never have two nickels to rub together again.

06-26-2002, 09:52 AM	#122
SunTzu Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: the box Posts: 456	whether you agree a person should be 18 to view/sell porn legally is not the point. Who here didn't watch more porn when they were 16 than an adult? ;) I have 2 main problems with underage teens and porn: If they run a site and screw you - you're fucked. They're not held to any contracts they agree to. (think sponsor) If they surf sites, they're just wasting our bandwidth. I wonder how much of the non-convertable traffic we get is underage? Maybe we're getting 100% conversions with adults and the rest are just underage?!?

06-26-2002, 10:03 AM	#123
PicsULove Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 82	i agree with the last two posts and am closer to just canceling with my hosting, anyways they sucked, ripped me off 2.99 month haha it was really too big of a hassle ill just make some galleries now and then, but this board has always been so damn fun and interesting so u cant get me away from it but byebye hosting and site o well you guys convinced me its not a good image for my parents if they were to ever find out and such oh well __________________ <a href="http://www.PicsULove.com>PicsULove.com</a>

06-26-2002, 11:32 AM	#124
nocostporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,228	I like the kid who said that half of everybody here is under 18... But I think I'm done on this subject... The bottomline,none of us care that you look at porn,nobody even really gives a fuck that you sell porn but we do care about having you on the board... if a sponsorship company harvest a spammer(s) they face the consequences,same thing applies here Your parents can sue on everything.... next time be wise and keep your mouth shut about your age,even though these lame ass arguments you clowns are putting up is reason enough.... __________________ CashTheChecks.com -coming soon- "Exclusive sites for Exclusive Webmasters" ICQ-119966868,add me first don't message

06-26-2002, 12:10 PM	#125
toddler Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: austin, tx Posts: 1,911	1 more 1 more;) Something Rip said brought a point to mind. If a minor purchases content from a content provider, that provider would be fucked as well. Do you content providers out there require ID? I know that the small amount of content i've purchased for sites didn't require ID. Pic: If I were you, I'd just shut the hell up, you've gone from getting yourself banned, to having people show up at your door.

06-26-2002, 06:54 PM	#128
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	and I know you will continue to work in this industry... Maybe and then maybe not!

06-26-2002, 06:59 PM	#129
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	First off nobody can be arrested Its sad that you are so full of yourself Pics... You have no idea about laws obviously. Keep showing us your immaculate intelligence! Or should that read immature intelligence?

06-26-2002, 07:12 PM	#130
nocostporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,228	everybody was banned...my job is done somebody go ban that 16 year old girl too... or send her my way __________________ CashTheChecks.com -coming soon- "Exclusive sites for Exclusive Webmasters" ICQ-119966868,add me first don't message

06-26-2002, 09:58 PM	#135
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	How DID this kids measly 200 bucks a month all of a sudden balloon into two grand?!?! BTW... read the thread.. he says he doesn't make ANYthing then it goes to 200 a month. He is a proven liar so why take ANYthing he has to say as truthful? Sounds like some people have more greed than brains.

06-26-2002, 10:00 PM	#136
drunkmonkey Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: behind you Posts:1,075,324 Posts: 799	If the love of money is the root of all evil then I am Satan

06-26-2002, 10:42 PM	#144
nocostporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,228	I think we have to take in point,that we are adult webmasters... Now I'll admit we aren't the most morally fucked up individuals BUT it's still a taboo business and we don't see that having a kid dealing/veiwing porn as a big deal...somebody who isn't in porn would say otherwise... Theres no difference in being underage selling and participating... both should be taken seriously... kids are growing up fast as shit now a days... we don't need to contribute to that in a negative way (Yes porn in most cases is negative) __________________ CashTheChecks.com -coming soon- "Exclusive sites for Exclusive Webmasters" ICQ-119966868,add me first don't message

06-27-2002, 12:31 AM	#150
FlyingIguana aspiring banker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 10,870	i bet there's 16 year olds who get laid more than half the people on this board i don't see what the problem is. but obviously its illegal and if you are under 18, just keep your fucking mouth shut about it. if gfy admins finds out you're under 18 they'd have to ban you.